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I'm hearing other reports of the August deadline. Apparently mayor Butts of Inglewood has been asked about the August announcement and will not refute the rumor, in fact says that the 'source' that leaked that info was a 'good one'.
I have no link so take it for what its worth.
btw, miss Zelasko has been around the California sports scene for decades. started in San Diego I believe. Doesn't mean she's right but she's not just some newbie.
I have no link so take it for what its worth.
btw, miss Zelasko has been around the California sports scene for decades. started in San Diego I believe. Doesn't mean she's right but she's not just some newbie.
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So Hacksaw is this to file for relocation or is she saying the vote will be had and it has been decided?
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Shane Gray Talks Rams' Future, St. Louis Stadium Project on The Press Box
Brendan Marks posted on May 14, 2015 11:47
http://www.insidestl.com/insideSTLc...t-Louis-Stadium-Project-on-The-Press-Box.aspx
insideSTL.com's Shane Gray, who for several months has been covering the topic of relocation and the Rams, popped in on The Hollywood Casino Press Box Thursday to discuss the St. Louis stadium situation and the city's future regarding professional football.
Below you'll find some of the major talking points. You can listen to the complete interview underneath the excerpts:
Can the government extend the bonds on the dome to help pay for the stadium project without a public vote?
"At the state level, I believe the answer is yes because the budget was passed without any restrictions towards those bonds. That budget goes into effect on July 1. Speaking with legislators on both sides of the aisle, they don't believe there would be the strength to get the two-thirds vote to veto anything by the governor. Basically the only thing that could eventually stop state funding...would be for the legislature not to end up paying the bonds on an annual basis. That would jeopardize the state's credit rating. Considering the budget that was passed...it appears the state side has a strong chance of going forward."
Dave Peacock this week said the project would need $100 million less in public funding than originally thought. What do you know about this?
"It's $100 million less in terms of using bond money at the city and state level. They want to make up for that with the use of state tax credits at about $150 million in total towards the new venue rather than $50 million in state tax credits. While they're looking to be $100 million short on the bonds in total. They want to make up for that and believe they can...with the tax credits."
What's the task force's greatest hurdle the task force has yet to clear?
"I believe right now it's just getting the formal implementation of the funding in place and finalized. As far as retaining the Rams, which Peacock has maintained repeatedly is the emphasis of the task force...the main thing is to convince eight of the 32 owners to vote to not approve Stan Kroenke for a move to Los Angeles if he does go forward and apply to move."
Give an insight on how quickly we could have the financing finalized:
"As early as the fall...in the October timeframe we should have a good idea of how the funding is looking at all levels...The task force has a good chance of knowing where they stand on that funding at the very least by that October range."
What's the most likely endgame in your opinion for professional football in St. Louis?
"As of the moment, I would say the most likely scenario is that the Rams stay but without Stan Kroenke...There's a long way to go in finalizing this process and many possible endgames. I believe the best bet still remains that the Rams are here. The only people I would rule their opinions out at this stage are the one's that would say the Rams are a definitive bet to move or the Rams are absolutely staying because neither has been finalized and neither has been set in stone at this point."
Here's the whole segment with @STL-Rams
[av]http://www.insidestlaudio.com/Pressbox/051415-4PB.mp3[/av]
Brendan Marks posted on May 14, 2015 11:47
http://www.insidestl.com/insideSTLc...t-Louis-Stadium-Project-on-The-Press-Box.aspx
insideSTL.com's Shane Gray, who for several months has been covering the topic of relocation and the Rams, popped in on The Hollywood Casino Press Box Thursday to discuss the St. Louis stadium situation and the city's future regarding professional football.
Below you'll find some of the major talking points. You can listen to the complete interview underneath the excerpts:
Can the government extend the bonds on the dome to help pay for the stadium project without a public vote?
"At the state level, I believe the answer is yes because the budget was passed without any restrictions towards those bonds. That budget goes into effect on July 1. Speaking with legislators on both sides of the aisle, they don't believe there would be the strength to get the two-thirds vote to veto anything by the governor. Basically the only thing that could eventually stop state funding...would be for the legislature not to end up paying the bonds on an annual basis. That would jeopardize the state's credit rating. Considering the budget that was passed...it appears the state side has a strong chance of going forward."
Dave Peacock this week said the project would need $100 million less in public funding than originally thought. What do you know about this?
"It's $100 million less in terms of using bond money at the city and state level. They want to make up for that with the use of state tax credits at about $150 million in total towards the new venue rather than $50 million in state tax credits. While they're looking to be $100 million short on the bonds in total. They want to make up for that and believe they can...with the tax credits."
What's the task force's greatest hurdle the task force has yet to clear?
"I believe right now it's just getting the formal implementation of the funding in place and finalized. As far as retaining the Rams, which Peacock has maintained repeatedly is the emphasis of the task force...the main thing is to convince eight of the 32 owners to vote to not approve Stan Kroenke for a move to Los Angeles if he does go forward and apply to move."
Give an insight on how quickly we could have the financing finalized:
"As early as the fall...in the October timeframe we should have a good idea of how the funding is looking at all levels...The task force has a good chance of knowing where they stand on that funding at the very least by that October range."
What's the most likely endgame in your opinion for professional football in St. Louis?
"As of the moment, I would say the most likely scenario is that the Rams stay but without Stan Kroenke...There's a long way to go in finalizing this process and many possible endgames. I believe the best bet still remains that the Rams are here. The only people I would rule their opinions out at this stage are the one's that would say the Rams are a definitive bet to move or the Rams are absolutely staying because neither has been finalized and neither has been set in stone at this point."
Here's the whole segment with @STL-Rams
[av]http://www.insidestlaudio.com/Pressbox/051415-4PB.mp3[/av]
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Roger Goodell pleased with St. Louis stadium progress
By Nick Wagoner
http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-ra...oodell-pleased-with-st-louis-stadium-progress
EARTH CITY, Mo. -- While the two proposed Los Angeles-area stadiums look to be well ahead of the curve in their potential of becoming reality, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell made it clear Wednesday in San Francisco that of the three home markets looking to keep their teams, St. Louis is the furthest along in its pursuit of a stadium.
With each passing week, the St. Louis stadium task force has checked off box after box and though there is still some significant work to do, namely in securing the public piece of the financing, San Diego and Oakland don't appear to be anywhere close to St. Louis when it comes to putting together an actionable plan. San Diego just presented a financing plan that doesn't look agreeable for the Chargers and Oakland has yet to do as much as put a proposal together.
"We heard directly from St. Louis a couple of weeks ago," Goodell said. "It’s one of the things that we’re evaluating and we’re working on. I don’t know if we’ve come to a conclusion on that to date, but there is tremendous progress going on there. We’re going to make sure we give it full evaluation and full consideration and we’ll get back directly to them if we feel that there are any issues that need to be addressed."
NFL executive vice president Eric Grubman offered similar praise for the efforts going on in St. Louis, and it's worth noting that both Grubman and Goodell have longstanding relationships with St. Louis task force leader Dave Peacock.
Grubman has consistently referred to the difficulties in getting a stadium built, using the analogy of a football team trying to get across the goal line. What he means by that is developing an "actionable" plan. In other words, pretty pictures and random numbers for financing won't suffice. To reach that level, a stadium proposal must be able to show that financing is in place, land agreements are in place and all of the other details are finalized.
And that still doesn't account for the possibility that the ball might cross the goal line and Rams owner Stan Kroenke could throw a flag to call it back by simply saying no to paying the private-financing piece of the puzzle.
In St. Louis' case, that still leaves work to be done on finalizing financing, though the task force remains confident it can be done by the fall. Perhaps that will be expedited, though, as the league ponders shortening and moving up the timeline to file for relocation. The land doesn't look like it will be much of a problem as the group already has option agreements in place for nearly two thirds of the proposed land.
Meanwhile, Kroenke's project in Inglewood appears to be well down the tracks and seems to simply be waiting for NFL approval. that begs the question of whether it's pretty much a sure thing that the NFL will be returning to Los Angeles.
"There has been significant progress, but I don’t think it’s inevitable," Goodell said. "I think there is certainly momentum; there are certainly opportunities. I can’t remember the last time we had two facilities that are actually entitled and are being developed. That’s a very positive development, and in fact, there are actually even two more sites that have been entitled. But the two that we’re focusing on are obviously the Carson site and the Inglewood site. I think those are positive developments, but a lot more work has to be done."
By Nick Wagoner
http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-ra...oodell-pleased-with-st-louis-stadium-progress
EARTH CITY, Mo. -- While the two proposed Los Angeles-area stadiums look to be well ahead of the curve in their potential of becoming reality, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell made it clear Wednesday in San Francisco that of the three home markets looking to keep their teams, St. Louis is the furthest along in its pursuit of a stadium.
With each passing week, the St. Louis stadium task force has checked off box after box and though there is still some significant work to do, namely in securing the public piece of the financing, San Diego and Oakland don't appear to be anywhere close to St. Louis when it comes to putting together an actionable plan. San Diego just presented a financing plan that doesn't look agreeable for the Chargers and Oakland has yet to do as much as put a proposal together.
"We heard directly from St. Louis a couple of weeks ago," Goodell said. "It’s one of the things that we’re evaluating and we’re working on. I don’t know if we’ve come to a conclusion on that to date, but there is tremendous progress going on there. We’re going to make sure we give it full evaluation and full consideration and we’ll get back directly to them if we feel that there are any issues that need to be addressed."
NFL executive vice president Eric Grubman offered similar praise for the efforts going on in St. Louis, and it's worth noting that both Grubman and Goodell have longstanding relationships with St. Louis task force leader Dave Peacock.
Grubman has consistently referred to the difficulties in getting a stadium built, using the analogy of a football team trying to get across the goal line. What he means by that is developing an "actionable" plan. In other words, pretty pictures and random numbers for financing won't suffice. To reach that level, a stadium proposal must be able to show that financing is in place, land agreements are in place and all of the other details are finalized.
And that still doesn't account for the possibility that the ball might cross the goal line and Rams owner Stan Kroenke could throw a flag to call it back by simply saying no to paying the private-financing piece of the puzzle.
In St. Louis' case, that still leaves work to be done on finalizing financing, though the task force remains confident it can be done by the fall. Perhaps that will be expedited, though, as the league ponders shortening and moving up the timeline to file for relocation. The land doesn't look like it will be much of a problem as the group already has option agreements in place for nearly two thirds of the proposed land.
Meanwhile, Kroenke's project in Inglewood appears to be well down the tracks and seems to simply be waiting for NFL approval. that begs the question of whether it's pretty much a sure thing that the NFL will be returning to Los Angeles.
"There has been significant progress, but I don’t think it’s inevitable," Goodell said. "I think there is certainly momentum; there are certainly opportunities. I can’t remember the last time we had two facilities that are actually entitled and are being developed. That’s a very positive development, and in fact, there are actually even two more sites that have been entitled. But the two that we’re focusing on are obviously the Carson site and the Inglewood site. I think those are positive developments, but a lot more work has to be done."
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Why though? I mean they can't file, the only thing would be to kill St Louis' spirits, and drive down attendance. Seems weird to me, I don't think I buy that one.
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She's a little flaky but she's been very pro Carson so she must have some information that has changed her mind.
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Eric Grubman Talks About Keeping the Rams in St.Louis
At Wednesday’s meeting for NFL owners in San Francisco, discusses centered on the three teams vying to move to Los Angeles. The teams updated owners on their stadium proposals for the St. Louis Ram, San Diego Chargers and Oakland Raiders. FOX 2 Sports Anchor Martin Kilcoyne is at the meetings and spoke to the man in charge for the NFL on the Los Angeles market. Eric Grubman spoke about the stadiums and what the issues facing the NFL on Los Angeles.
Watch Grubman Talk Rams
At Wednesday’s meeting for NFL owners in San Francisco, discusses centered on the three teams vying to move to Los Angeles. The teams updated owners on their stadium proposals for the St. Louis Ram, San Diego Chargers and Oakland Raiders. FOX 2 Sports Anchor Martin Kilcoyne is at the meetings and spoke to the man in charge for the NFL on the Los Angeles market. Eric Grubman spoke about the stadiums and what the issues facing the NFL on Los Angeles.
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No, Fred talks with Mayor Robles on a regular basis. Plus, nothing new about investigations of land deals in Carson
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I am not saying they are wrong but I don't believe for one minute the Jason Cole, Adam Schefter, and so on wouldn't be all over this news. Especially, since just yesterday everything was positive movement in STL and Carson is making up ground. Now the 980 group is saying it's done. Really? Was there a secret vote? Is he going rogue? Something just doesn't seem right to me.
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It depends, if this a local story about the Carson site the national media wouldn't be on this yet.
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I really don't buy any of this. Have you noticed every time Carson or STL takes a step forward, Inglewood all of a sudden comes out of nowhere and breaks some sort of crazy news? It's a back and forth that won't end until Roger Goodell stands up at that podium on TV in front of the whole world and tells us what's happening.
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It could be about the sexual assault allegations made against the Carson mayor, but I don't think that would really jeopardize the Carson stadium too much, and they're probably false. I guess we'll have to listen in at 12:30 to hear what it is, but I'm going to guess it's a lot of nothing. He seems to be harping that it's a big deal though.
Either way it's working, because I'm sure people will be tuning in.
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Also apparently it has nothing to do about teams, so it would need to be an issue with the land/city.
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It depends what they're investigating the land transfer or if it's something else. Land transfer may only delay it for awhile.
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