Dolphins owner: Twitter-nasty wife got Brent Grimes cut

[LesBaker]

one of the replies to this tweet was:

Miko that's not how birds work. At all.

 

[fearsomefour]

Funny... it's okay to sign guys who beat and rape women, kill people in drunk driving accidents and are all around bad guys...

BUT... we can't have a pro-bowl caliber player with an out-spoken wife... I mean whether she's outspoke and on point or outspoken and a jackass... doesn't matter. We've seen all kinds of outspoken wives and NONE of them have been welcome.

Don't think Brenda Warner wasn't part of Kurt's exit from St. Louis.

The owners are perfectly fine talking all sorts of nonsense, but Lord forbid anyone calls the lyin'ass owners on their nonsense...

That and I think her cake making skills are highly unappreciated by Ross

She can't cover anybody.....end of story.
Keep that B in line.

 

[snackdaddy]

Well, its clear who wears the pants in that marriage. Do the Bucs really want that headache? I guess so. How the players in that locker room feel about her knowing she'll put something crude and negative out there if they have a bad game? If I was a player I'd steer clear of that guy. I wouldn't be going out for beers with him and the nutjob anytime soon.

 

[Corbin]

how about this...

Funny... it's okay to sign guys who beat and rape women, kill people in drunk driving accidents, and guys who are all around bad guys...

That's closer to what I meant.

That said, the family of the woman sure had issues with him (really not trying to litigate the whole LL thing). I know he was young and wasn't used to drinking and made a tragic mistake. I get that.

But the Dallas Cowboy player who killed his best friend (also a player, iirc)?

The point was and still remains that the league has no issue signing guys including Aaron Hernandez who they KNEW was a gang banger at Miami and Greg Hardy who IS an unrepentant sexual batterer and a host of other guys who've been unmitigated disasters as human beings.

And yet... the minute a woman opens her mouth in ways displeasing to the men in power...she's a scourge upon the earth and they'll go so far as to trade a Pro Bowl (caliber) player to get rid of a talking woman who says something displeasing.

How dumb is that? As if building a team isn't hard enough, a few tweets or comments is enough to force a trade?

Stephen Ross is an idiot.

Then again, I think strong women are awesome. It doesn't surprise me that old white guys with money...don't...

The issue is not that she's opening her mouth it's that she not in the the kitchen while doing said activity. I would of let go of Brett Grimes to if he can't keep her ass in check!

 

[LACHAMP46]

Funniest shit I've read in a long time....LOLOLOL...couple of thoughts....if it's in any way true, and I like Tannehill, it should be fine to talk about the QB...like a fan.
Not sure about the other stuff she's done....
I guess a lot of you never met a woman like this....and I bet she's wild in the sheets and the main reason Brent hasn't said a word to her about any of it.

 

[Faceplant]

All this from a Bobby Kristina lookin' loudmouth. The worst part is that she ever got a famous athlete to marry her. That Miko is as ugly as the day is long.....

 

[LesBaker]

So I've been reading about this a little bit more. I don't know what to say other than she is either a miserable self loathing baby door or needs help. Or both.

She called herself "a loudmouthed bitch with an amazing rack".

So I think she needs help. And is a miserable baby door.

Read these tweets.......LOL

http://bustedcoverage.com/2016/03/22/miko-grimes-has-final-words-for-ryan-tannehill/

 

[Mackeyser]

Why? Why would you wish Greg Hardy on Bucs fans? As if they haven't had it hard enough???

As for the Miko Grimes stuff, as I feared, my objections became about her and not the issue which was how it was okay to put up with MOUNTAINS of crap from doods, but impossible to put up with ant hills of stuff from a female. And I'm sorry, but tweets are ant hills. I repeatedly brought up other examples of other women (I mentioned Brenda Warner, but there are others like Giselle Brady and others. I could search for more, but I'm lazy atm), but the interest apparently from others was in making it about Miko Grimes. Her personal peccadillos and behavioral issues weren't my concern and I tried, however unsuccessfully, to make my contention about the issue, not the person.

As for some of the other stuff, I'm not about calling women "bitches" and "whores" and "keeping them in check". I don't roll that way. If that's anyone else's deal, well... I dunno what to say. I don't think of women that way and it seems some do and so this topic and more than a few others probably would be hard to discuss.

I like women and not just for sex (well, only been with the wife, but you get the idea). I enjoy Women's sports (if I enjoy the sport) especially women's MMA, have never had a problem with a woman boss, generally prefer women doctors and have enjoyed female friends online (playing WoW, that is. I went to one friend's wedding. Was great).

I dunno if it's perspective or what.

I realize some guys have no issue with the disparity between with what men can do and actually do and what women are allowed to do (the disparity in that statement says something). I was just pointing it out. Seemed rather obvious to me.

A guy can be Steve Howe, Johnny Manziel or any other "troubled" type. No problem. Serena Williams is the best female tennis player in the world and one of the best ever... no way she'd get those kinds of chances. It's just...different. Doods can act the fool and pay no or very little price. Women don't have that same freedom, whether it be things they do or say.

I realize that Miko Grimes in this case was the spouse and that creates a slightly different dynamic. Okay. But does every sports wife have to function like a "first lady"? Even Miko Grimes being Miko Grimes... which is to say, she's a lot to take on a clear day...

I don't think it changes the principle of what I'm saying. Guys can say anything they want, but women challenging men is seen as an existential threat.

I realize a good many won't get to the meat of what I'm saying because you can't get past the person of Miko Grimes. I dunno how to address that. I was trying to get to a bigger point, but...

I dunno. Maybe some folks heard what I was saying.

 

[dieterbrock]

I dunno. Maybe some folks heard what I was saying.

Honestly, I really don't know what point you are trying to make.
What this woman has been doing and saying is deplorable, and because she is a woman, a wife, it had been tolerated. If a male player made those comments about another player, he'd be cut. Look at Richie Incognito
Hope Solo was arrested on multiple counts of assault, and wasn't treated with the same scrutiny males have.
None of these behaviors are right, all should be punished.
I'm not seeing what you're saying.
Her attacks and vulgar remarks about Ryan Tannehill are beyond approach. And this was on her public twitter account. You think its ok to allow that behavior? You think its ok that his wife, mother, sister etc shouldn't be offended because it was a woman making those horrific statements?
This woman is a crude pig and ironically, she shut down her public profile and remains private.
As a test case, lets have your wife go on twitter and/or facebook and make repulsive remarks about your co-workers, boss and company owner. See how that works out.
When I started reading this thread, I found your take intriguing, and decided to find out a little more about what happened. When I saw a glimpse of what the content was my opinion completely changed. I think if you take a look at the content, you might do the same

 

[Prime Time]

As for the Miko Grimes stuff, as I feared, my objections became about her and not the issue which was how it was okay to put up with MOUNTAINS of crap from doods, but impossible to put up with ant hills of stuff from a female.

I agree with most of the rest of your post but not this. While there have been many exceptions over lo these many years of NFL history, players for the most part are held accountable by being fined, suspended, and yes even at times released for their antisocial behavior.

In this case, while the owner can release any player he wants, it would have been wise for him to keep his mouth shut as to the reason he cut this player loose.

 

[-X-]

As for the Miko Grimes stuff, as I feared, my objections became about her and not the issue which was how it was okay to put up with MOUNTAINS of crap from doods, but impossible to put up with ant hills of stuff from a female. And I'm sorry, but tweets are ant hills. I repeatedly brought up other examples of other women (I mentioned Brenda Warner, but there are others like Giselle Brady and others. I could search for more, but I'm lazy atm), but the interest apparently from others was in making it about Miko Grimes. Her personal peccadillos and behavioral issues weren't my concern and I tried, however unsuccessfully, to make my contention about the issue, not the person.

I heard (and understood) what you said. But here's the bottom line. The Dolphins, as an entity, no longer want to be associated with someone who, in a vile manner, constantly rips the team, the market, its reporters, its players, and everything for which they stand. Miko Grimes is now synonymous with the Miami Dolphins, and has been for a few years now. And for all we know, she could have been calling the Front Office for 3 years leaving shitty messages for people. I mean, I wouldn't put it past her since she's 24/7 on Twitter telling everyone what a shit Organization it really is, and how stupid all of the people employed by them really are. Maybe it's not fair, but it's all kinds of their prerogative. And I suspect they would have been more tolerant if she expressed herself in a less repulsive manner.

 

[drasconis]

As for the Miko Grimes stuff, as I feared, my objections became about her and not the issue which was how it was okay to put up with MOUNTAINS of crap from doods, but impossible to put up with ant hills of stuff from a female.

I think I understand what you are saying the trouble is a reasonable opposite example doesn't come to mind. I get for example that often when a wife of a player puts something out there it gets a negative reaction sometimes in a derogatory manner.
First there will always be some knuckleheads out there - nothing we or society ever does will get rid of them...regardless if they are actual knuckleheads or if they are trolls that see an opportunity.
Second to test the debate the opposite would have to be tested. For example some famous female athlete would have to have a spouse talk negative about her teammates/competitors in a similar fashion.
Third I think that several general rules tend to apply when people see things like this:
1. the spouse should be wary of making waves, especially publically, for the other spouse.
a. the working spouse is the one that deals with the fall out
b. the working spouse better knows the true situation (who doesn't vent to family sometimes)
2. the amount of crap allowed is proportional to the talent brought....she certainly got a longer leash than the long snappers wife would have.....Geisel will have a super long leash due to how good Brady is.
3. the crap acceptable will be affected by remorse shown, some talk about players who have done worse - and very true (it is a solid point), but then the player gets up there admits mistake begs forgiveness and the general publics pity/forgiveness kicks in (many believe in second chances). If a player acts horrible and gets up and says they did nothing wrong or screw everyone then they will get no "second chance".
4. second chances are limited (at least with an organization) - Manzel learned that, TO learned that, etc....maybe another organization will give it a go, but you can only expect 1 group to live with it so long....

 

[Mackeyser]

I admit to not being overly traumatized by a lot of what she said because after my time in the Navy... I'm not sure anything anyone said could really do much more than raise an eyebrow. I got to meet some salty, salty sailors. (As an aside, I probably have the bluest sense of humor of anyone you know, so vulgarity really, REALLY doesn't phase me in the slightest... well, maybe ~Lyser has me by a hair...depends on the day. This may be part of why I just shrug at her tweets. Wrong, yes. Offended? /shrug)

That said, I definitely recognize that so very much of what she said wasn't right (the vulgarity, not necessarily the message) AND that she created an untenable work situation for her spouse. All very true.

However, can women speak out and challenge men in authority without creating an existential threat?

I seriously doubt that. I won't try to prove that case because this isn't the venue for that, but certainly not in most of the world and I posit for the most part, not in the first world. Still.

Seems odd to me.

Btw, it's entirely possible to believe that women should be able to speak out AND believe that all people should be able to communicate in a constructive manner. It's pretty clear this situation had no winners. I'm pretty clear about that. Well, Brent Grimes got a better contract with a better organization, so maybe he won.

I get that Miko Grimes deserves criticism. She's certainly gotten that in here and elsewhere. I just find it noteworthy that the criticism aimed at her, other spouses (she's also been a radio personality for quite awhile, dunno if she was that before she married Brent or not), women athletes and generally women in media is disproportionate with respect to the results that occur for men. I find that noteworthy. I noted it.

Now, if the preferred reaction is to turn this into a crap on Miko Grimes thread... well, then, okay. I never felt like the defender of Miko Grimes in the first place, so... have at it, I guess? I was just trying to make a larger point.

The doldrums prior to the draft are a damned horrible time of year, I tells ya...

 

[Mackeyser]

I think I understand what you are saying the trouble is a reasonable opposite example doesn't come to mind. I get for example that often when a wife of a player puts something out there it gets a negative reaction sometimes in a derogatory manner.
First there will always be some knuckleheads out there - nothing we or society ever does will get rid of them...regardless if they are actual knuckleheads or if they are trolls that see an opportunity.
Second to test the debate the opposite would have to be tested. For example some famous female athlete would have to have a spouse talk negative about her teammates/competitors in a similar fashion.
Third I think that several general rules tend to apply when people see things like this:
1. the spouse should be wary of making waves, especially publically, for the other spouse.
a. the working spouse is the one that deals with the fall out
b. the working spouse better knows the true situation (who doesn't vent to family sometimes)
2. the amount of crap allowed is proportional to the talent brought....she certainly got a longer leash than the long snappers wife would have.....Geisel will have a super long leash due to how good Brady is.
3. the crap acceptable will be affected by remorse shown, some talk about players who have done worse - and very true (it is a solid point), but then the player gets up there admits mistake begs forgiveness and the general publics pity/forgiveness kicks in (many believe in second chances). If a player acts horrible and gets up and says they did nothing wrong or screw everyone then they will get no "second chance".
4. second chances are limited (at least with an organization) - Manzel learned that, TO learned that, etc....maybe another organization will give it a go, but you can only expect 1 group to live with it so long....

Excellent post. And yes, it's hard to test the opposite. #2 is especially true, I think. I agree with everything except #3.

Greg Hardy is an unrepentant serial sexual batterer and signed with the Cowboys NEVER having shown a moment of remorse. The ONLY reason he wasn't in jail was that a) North Carolina's laws don't make sexual assault and/or battery a crime against the state and b) North Carolina specifically has a loophole where a defendant can petition for a judicial verdict and then if found guilty, opt for a jury verdict. That's nonsense and it should be double jeopardy, but it isn't. He was found guilty by a judge based on the evidence and then after paying off his victim, was able to get an acquittal based on the defendant not showing up for trial. It should be one or the other and the verdict based on the evidence was that he was guilty. Period.

And yet... he got a multi-million dollar contract from the Cowboys. He proceeded to make horrible comments, made veiled threats about raping Tom Brady's wife and was a cancer in the Cowboys locker room. The moment he says he wants to play, I'm SURE another team will sign him.

 

[OldSchool]

how about this...

Funny... it's okay to sign guys who beat and rape women, kill people in drunk driving accidents, and guys who are all around bad guys...

That's closer to what I meant.

That said, the family of the woman sure had issues with him (really not trying to litigate the whole LL thing). I know he was young and wasn't used to drinking and made a tragic mistake. I get that.

But the Dallas Cowboy player who killed his best friend (also a player, iirc)?

The point was and still remains that the league has no issue signing guys including Aaron Hernandez who they KNEW was a gang banger at Miami and Greg Hardy who IS an unrepentant sexual batterer and a host of other guys who've been unmitigated disasters as human beings.

And yet... the minute a woman opens her mouth in ways displeasing to the men in power...she's a scourge upon the earth and they'll go so far as to trade a Pro Bowl (caliber) player to get rid of a talking woman who says something displeasing.

How dumb is that? As if building a team isn't hard enough, a few tweets or comments is enough to force a trade?

Stephen Ross is an idiot.

Then again, I think strong women are awesome. It doesn't surprise me that old white guys with money...don't...

I think you're doing yourself and your social justice cause a disservice. Did Stephen Ross sign any of those wife beaters or murderers or gang bangers? I don't follow them closely but I'm pretty sure they did not. You're persecuting Ross for what some others that have the same type businesses as he does have done. If the barber shop in my neighborhood hires a wife beater does that mean I should hold it against all the others? Absolutely not! Now the NFL for allowing these things to happen is a better target for you but you need to set your sights on a better target. Ross is not a good target for your argument.

 

[drasconis]

Excellent post. And yes, it's hard to test the opposite. #2 is especially true, I think. I agree with everything except #3.

Greg Hardy is an unrepentant serial sexual batterer and signed with the Cowboys NEVER having shown a moment of remorse. The ONLY reason he wasn't in jail was that a) North Carolina's laws don't make sexual assault and/or battery a crime against the state and b) North Carolina specifically has a loophole where a defendant can petition for a judicial verdict and then if found guilty, opt for a jury verdict. That's nonsense and it should be double jeopardy, but it isn't. He was found guilty by a judge based on the evidence and then after paying off his victim, was able to get an acquittal based on the defendant not showing up for trial. It should be one or the other and the verdict based on the evidence was that he was guilty. Period.

And yet... he got a multi-million dollar contract from the Cowboys. He proceeded to make horrible comments, made veiled threats about raping Tom Brady's wife and was a cancer in the Cowboys locker room. The moment he says he wants to play, I'm SURE another team will sign him.

I see what you are saying there....I would say that the cowboys got really beat up by that, Jerry refused to cut him (stubborn guy there), but once the season was over he was gone. there will always be guys who stick with a bad choice longer out of ego.....going to be interesting to see who gives him his next shot....

I would say none of the above are absolutes just general rules - every coach/GM/CEO has their own limits and ego in the matter...and each case generates a certain level of PR. 10 years ago abusive relationships were brushed aside, now not so much....I am not sure anyone saw the backlash to the Ray Rice coming (so many had been ignored), I am sure someone was saying "one of these days" ...I don't think that LL would be handled the same today...

The press is much more on top of these things now, much less slides.

 

[kurtfaulk]

Excellent post. And yes, it's hard to test the opposite. #2 is especially true, I think. I agree with everything except #3.

Greg Hardy is an unrepentant serial sexual batterer and signed with the Cowboys NEVER having shown a moment of remorse. The ONLY reason he wasn't in jail was that a) North Carolina's laws don't make sexual assault and/or battery a crime against the state and b) North Carolina specifically has a loophole where a defendant can petition for a judicial verdict and then if found guilty, opt for a jury verdict. That's nonsense and it should be double jeopardy, but it isn't. He was found guilty by a judge based on the evidence and then after paying off his victim, was able to get an acquittal based on the defendant not showing up for trial. It should be one or the other and the verdict based on the evidence was that he was guilty. Period.

And yet... he got a multi-million dollar contract from the Cowboys. He proceeded to make horrible comments, made veiled threats about raping Tom Brady's wife and was a cancer in the Cowboys locker room. The moment he says he wants to play, I'm SURE another team will sign him.

hardy is a bad example. nobody would touch him except jerry jones. the panthers cut him which means no team would trade for him. i only ever heard the cowboys pursuing him.

also, i have a hard time feeling sorry for a person who gets paid off. they're like prostitutes, do anything you want with me as long as you pay me.

.

 

[LesBaker]

However, can women speak out and challenge men in authority without creating an existential threat?

Yup they can, and female sports reporters are critical of the Dolphins too I bet. Let's face it they are kinda an easy target.

Women speak out all the time. By the way the Brenda Warner comparison is off base IMO, she handled herself with a degree of dignity Miko Grimes cannot even understand, probably can't even define.

She was over the top, even when you subtract the swear words, and insulting to people who help her husband earn millions and millions of dollars. So she comes across as crude and vulgar, dishonest, not at all likable, insulting and ungrateful. When I guy acts like that he's called a dick or an asshole, when a woman does it she's called a bitch or a baby door. All the same to me for the most part. She's felt entitled because she is "a players wife" and she even said it to the cops who arrested her one time for jumping over a temporary crowd control fence after being told not to several times. She's not winning many friends at all that's for sure.


Plus that dumb fuckin' baby door thinks that abomination of a boob job is "an amazing rack". It looks so bad even I wouldn't hit it. OK well.........I'd have some reservations and it would take a lot of vodka to remove all of them.

 

[Prime Time]

I got to meet some salty, salty sailors.