What an indictment for Fisher

[Soul Surfer]

McVay is helping me forget old......

.........what's his name again?

 

[jrry32]

You don't have to do anything here Jerry, except whine about Fisher

Have a big day!

Well, I hope he's paying you well for the defense.

We both know he won't ever have you go on the offensive.

 

[Young Ram]

I was a big fish supporter. I thought he could get us over the hump and in the playoffs again. His biggest downfall was micromanaging and not hiring a competent offensive staff to run the offense. He does know Defense and special teams though.

I'm loving McVay and looking forward. Let all the fisher hate die already geez.

 

[Soul Surfer]

Carry on with the hate though!

"hate" might be a bit of an exaggeration.

I just look at it like "intense dislike"

 

[Soul Surfer]

Well, I hope he's paying you well for the defense.

Fisher is paying !?!

In that case I want to state that, "Jeff Fisher is the finest offensive genius of the 21st Century".

Heck, that should be worth a 50 spot.

 

[Loyal]

I was very supportive of Fisher until after the 3rd year.....I'm for letting him go fish in Montana and have a good life. He's not a bad guy...He just a coach who is an anachronism.

 

[Prime Time]

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2017/10/2/16395474/week-4-winners-and-losers

The Winners and Losers From NFL Week 4
BY RODGER SHERMAN

Loser: Jeff Fisher
The Rams offense is good. 40-point efforts against the Colts and 49ers could be scoffed at, but on Sunday the Rams beat the Cowboys on the road, 35-30, taking down a team expected to be an NFC contender. The Rams are alone in first place in the NFC West and lead the league in scoring.

Jared Goff is third in the NFL in quarterback rating—behind Tom Brady, ahead of Drew Brees. Todd Gurley is perhaps the most productive running back in the NFL, with seven touchdowns and 596 yards from scrimmage in four games.

It’s especially amazing because last year the Rams were dead last in scoring. They were held to 10 or fewer points in nine of their 16 games and scored 30 points only once. Goff looked like an immediate bust. Gurley had only six touchdowns the whole season.

This reflects most hilariously on Jeff Fisher, the phenomenally uninspiring coach who helmed the Rams from 2012 to 2016. (Actually, it is pretty inspiring that he kept NFL head-coach jobs for so long despite being Jeff Fisher.) Fisher developed a reputation for mediocrity and milquetoast offenses, but swore 2016 would be the end of “7-9 bullshit.”

Sure enough, his team started 4-9, he got fired, and as soon as the rest of Fisher’s staff disappeared, the Rams became competent. L.A. is currently being coached by Sean McVay, a teenager who has spent most of the season convincing the team’s older players to buy him vodka.

And he’s made the team miles more effective. Every time the Rams put up points like this and win should make Fisher’s future employment seven to nine times more unlikely.

 

[MTRamsFan]

I'm sure he's not too sad, says his bank account!

 

[thirteen28]

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2017/10/2/16395474/week-4-winners-and-losers

The Winners and Losers From NFL Week 4
BY RODGER SHERMAN

Loser: Jeff Fisher
The Rams offense is good. 40-point efforts against the Colts and 49ers could be scoffed at, but on Sunday the Rams beat the Cowboys on the road, 35-30, taking down a team expected to be an NFC contender. The Rams are alone in first place in the NFC West and lead the league in scoring.

Jared Goff is third in the NFL in quarterback rating—behind Tom Brady, ahead of Drew Brees. Todd Gurley is perhaps the most productive running back in the NFL, with seven touchdowns and 596 yards from scrimmage in four games.

It’s especially amazing because last year the Rams were dead last in scoring. They were held to 10 or fewer points in nine of their 16 games and scored 30 points only once. Goff looked like an immediate bust. Gurley had only six touchdowns the whole season.

This reflects most hilariously on Jeff Fisher, the phenomenally uninspiring coach who helmed the Rams from 2012 to 2016. (Actually, it is pretty inspiring that he kept NFL head-coach jobs for so long despite being Jeff Fisher.) Fisher developed a reputation for mediocrity and milquetoast offenses, but swore 2016 would be the end of “7-9 bullcrap.”

Sure enough, his team started 4-9, he got fired, and as soon as the rest of Fisher’s staff disappeared, the Rams became competent. L.A. is currently being coached by Sean McVay, a teenager who has spent most of the season convincing the team’s older players to buy him vodka.

And he’s made the team miles more effective. Every time the Rams put up points like this and win should make Fisher’s future employment seven to nine times more unlikely.

Coaching matters.

Also, the last two paragraphs are golden!

 

[nighttrain]

I was very supportive of Fisher until after the 3rd year.....I'm for letting him go fish in Montana and have a good life. He's not a bad guy...He just a coach who is an anachronism.

hear ya amigo!
Fisher was a huge disappointment, but to give credit for drafting players of today, hmmmmmmmmmmmm
NOPE, cant do it

train

 

[12intheBox]

I could see him land a Defensive coordinator spot or a college head coaching gig. And yes, he and his staff were a major part of the problem. But the contrast is highlighted by the fact that McVay is awesome.

 

[sjm1582002]

After Linehan, and then Spags, hiring a proven veteran coach was a smart move and Fisher's first year proved it.

Later, he just seemed to think the Rams could always "overpower" teams by predictably running the ball then displaying a timid and prehistoric passing attack on obvious passing downs. His last two years were two too many.

No one can say Fisher was not given plenty of time to create a contender.

 

[Rmfnlt]

He has grown a lot with McVay.

Could he ever have grown under Fisher and that staff? NO!

Greg Olsen is an excellent coach to have on the staff.

Not better than first time coach Chris Weinke? NO!

Kromer is making a huge difference.

Wasn't Boudreau better than Kromer? NO!

McVay is a excellent play caller & understands his personnel.

Better than Boras? NO!

As I look back on it, it's almost unbelievable how inept Fisher was at putting together a staff.

Even if they drafted/acquired all the players over this off season, Fisher would be at 1-3 (at best)

IMO... it's the coaching that has had the biggest impact, by far.

 

[Angry Ram]

After Linehan, and then Spags, hiring a proven veteran coach was a smart move and Fisher's first year proved it.

Later, he just seemed to think the Rams could always "overpower" teams by predictably running the ball then displaying a timid and prehistoric passing attack on obvious passing downs. His last two years were two too many.

No one can say Fisher was not given plenty of time to create a contender.

The FOs and coaches you mentioned left him with only 5 players that were worth anything: Chris Long, James Laurinaitis, Rodger Saffold, Robert Quinn, Sam Bradford. That was a huge undertaking Jeff Fisher had to deal with in completely rebuilding this team.

Of course he wasn't perfect. Contrary to what most people think, I do acknowledge his mistakes. But I'm not gonna put everything on the coach. Especially when he lost his starting QB to ACL tears twice in less than a calendar year.

He (Jeff Fisher) did the same thing Sean McVay is doing, in attempting to shore up the OL. Unfortunately for him, both Jake Long and Scott Wells got hurt with injuries they never had in years prior. How was he supposed to know Isaiah Pead and Tre Mason would have mental issues or Stedman Bailey would be shot in the head?

Yes, Brian Quick, Greg Robinson didn't work out, but guess what...3 high picks doesn't compare to all the talent he did bring in. No one focuses on that, and Sean McVay is capitalizing on that.

I'm not gonna rag on the guy as much as others do, just can't.

 

[So Ram]

Could he ever have grown under Fisher and that staff? NO!


Not better than first time coach Chris Weinke? NO!


Wasn't Boudreau better than Kromer? NO!


Better than Boras? NO!

As I look back on it, it's almost unbelievable how inept Fisher was at putting together a staff.

Even if they drafted/acquired all the players over this off season, Fisher would be at 1-3 (at best)

IMO... it's the coaching that has had the biggest impact, by far.

Well Fisher was such a control freak as well. He had a good view on defense, but was always afraid of hiring a true offense or defensive coordinator .
He knew Greg Williams would never be able to get a HC job after bounty gate .

 

[Rmfnlt]

Well Fisher was such a control freak as well. He had a good view on defense, but was always afraid of hiring a true offense or defensive coordinator .
He knew Greg Williams would never be able to get a HC job after bounty gate .

Yup... huge ego.

McVay clearly understands what he is lacking and has the smarts to let those coaches coach (Phillips and Fassel).

I see McVay sitting on the bench reviewing plays. Does he even talk much to Phillips and Fassel "in game"?

 

[So Ram]

Yup... huge ego.

McVay clearly understands what he is lacking and has the smarts to let those coaches coach (Phillips and Fassel).

I see McVay sitting on the bench reviewing plays. Does he even talk much to Phillips and Fassel "in game"?

He trust enough in Wade. He gave Wade the game ball as well & knew what that win meant to him. The defense had been getting beat up as well.
McVay is not going to change a call, but is tune to the game management part. He did challenge a catch by Dallas. His first ever challenge.

 

[Zodi]

I'm sure he's not too sad, says his bank account!

And fishing in Montana. Man, the life.

 

[Rmfnlt]

And fishing in Montana. Man, the life.

Yeah, the second most losingest HC in NFL history... yet, a millionaire that now spends his days fishing in Montana.

A magician, I say!

Gotta feel for the guy, huh?

 

[Karate61]

How about not giving Fisher to much credit for draft picks?

I mean, come on. If I drafted last year I would have picked either Goff or Wentz. How many drafting geniuses are out there?

Fisher was "Coach" Fisher, not "Draft" Fisher; and he sucked it as a Coach! Don't give Fisher credit for anything except all his years of losing records after losing records.

Bam!