moklerman possibly needing a quick refresher of what he wrote:
No, I'm just talking about "hands". Because you can't just look at the drop rate when discussing how good each of their hands are. The catches and circumstances that CJ makes his catches impact his overall drop rate. Decker may be in the same ballpark when just looking at the drop rate but he benefits greatly from single coverage and mismatches.
You seem to be suggesting that each of them catch the ball relatively equally as if they were just standing in front of a jugs machine.
So here's what you wrote:
C'mon now, you're not looking at the big picture here. The drop rate may be "similar" but think about what Calvin does and has to deal with in terms of coverage and then think about what Decker does in Denver. Would you even put them in the same conversation?
If Decker was being double and triple teamed and the Broncos were still throwing to him and he was still leading the league in receiving stats, sure I'd say the Rams should consider him. But let's be honest. There's just as much of a chance that Decker becomes the next Drew Bennett if he's asked to come to St. Louis and be WR#1. It would be a terrible signing for the Rams IMO. And I like what Decker offers for the Broncos. But I don't think there's any potential for him to be what the Rams need him to be.
You start out by talking about the "big picture" which, to me, immediately suggests you're about to veer off the limited subject of how good their "hands" are. This is borne out by your following comments.
Your very next sentence talks about who has to deal with the toughest coverage. What does that have to do with hands?
The first sentence of your second paragraph again talks about the coverages that CJ has to deal with. Again, nothing to do with how good his hands are and in fact you're saying the same thing as Jrry is about the relative worth of CJ vs Decker.
Maybe I'm just misreading you but I didn't see a single thing you said about his "hands" or his drop rate.
You merely acknowledge that the drop rate is similar.
When the drop rate for a player is calculated, the many variables of each incompletion are taken into consideration. Things like the accuracy of the throw and the difficulty of the potential catch are all accounted for. You might not agree with their methodology but they use the same methods for all the WRs. As both you and jrry are saying, a player's drop rate tells only part of the story.
We actually are in total agreement about Decker and CJ. I was merely pointing out that your reply to LosAngelesRams post didn't actually have any refutation of what he said in it. We both disagree with LosAngelesRams but I disagree with him because while their drop rates are similar and CJ
is the best WR in the league that doesn't automatically mean that Decker's hands must be good. It actually says nothing at all about the "quality" of Decker's hands.
So while I agree with your disagreement with what LosAngelesRams said, I disagree for different reasons.
