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The system is great for everyday commuting and home games. I'm not sure what a SB crowd would look like though. Hotels are what hold us back IMO.
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The system is great for everyday commuting and home games. I'm not sure what a SB crowd would look like though. Hotels are what hold us back IMO.
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Seriously, are all the seats massage chairs that give out complimentary BJ's? Christ.
That and the talks about potentially being able to skip votes was interesting to me.
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You'd think that the massage chairs part would at least be true!
Especially considering the cost of the psl's!
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Has anyone in LA even seen what this Taj Mahal is going to look like? All I've seen is a pretty pic of a reflecting pool with some sort of stadium in the background. If shovels are in the ground you would think some details would be available. $1.7 bill would make Jerry's palace look like a housing project-maybe Jerry changes his mind about a move that one-ups him,
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It's the epic battle of Kroenke & Company's pretty drawing vs. Peacock & Blitz's pretty drawing!Has anyone in LA even seen what this Taj Mahal is going to look like? All I've seen is a pretty pic of a reflecting pool with some sort of stadium in the background. If shovels are in the ground you would think some details would be available. $1.7 bill would make Jerry's palace look like a housing project-maybe Jerry changes his mind about a move that one-ups him,
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Has anyone in LA even seen what this Taj Mahal is going to look like? All I've seen is a pretty pic of a reflecting pool with some sort of stadium in the background. If shovels are in the ground you would think some details would be available. $1.7 bill would make Jerry's palace look like a housing project-maybe Jerry changes his mind about a move that one-ups him,
Nope, I think they had a few other concept pictures, but more about the entire project, not just the stadium. My guess is when it's approved for building they will show all the bells and whistles. It looked sleek, and appeared to have a dome, but at 1.7B you'd have to imagine it's retractable. Definitely seems like there's glass for natural light or something up there, but you can hardly see it in the concept stuff.
It could also be that the 1.7B includes the concert
I did find these pictures, I guess they had a presentation that showed some more stuff. Whoever took the photographs had a shitty camera (cellphone), sat far away or both though.
This last one was interesting though.
Not sure if that's essentially saying FAA wont get in the way or what. Looks like only Chicago and St Louis fly directly over the project, which wouldn't be an issue to move them a bit. Plus LAX has changed directions for landing (typically they take off to the west, do a U-Turn over the Pacific and go back east) during weather events though, so it would appear as if it's not a big deal.
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Woahhh where did you find these??? I've never seen themNope, I think they had a few other concept pictures, but more about the entire project, not just the stadium. My guess is when it's approved for building they will show all the bells and whistles. It looked sleek, and appeared to have a dome, but at 1.7B you'd have to imagine it's retractable. Definitely seems like there's glass for natural light or something up there, but you can hardly see it in the concept stuff.
It could also be that the 1.7B includes the concert
I did find these pictures, I guess they had a presentation that showed some more stuff. Whoever took the photographs had a crappy camera (cellphone), sat far away or both though.
This last one was interesting though.
Not sure if that's essentially saying FAA wont get in the way or what. Looks like only Chicago and St Louis fly directly over the project, which wouldn't be an issue to move them a bit. Plus LAX has changed directions for landing (typically they take off to the west, do a U-Turn over the Pacific and go back east) during weather events though, so it would appear as if it's not a big deal.
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Facebook, every so often I look at the "Keep the Rams in St Louis" and "Bring back the Los Angeles Rams" pages to see what people are saying. 99% of the stuff is frankly awful and they both cherry pick what they talk about (obviously), and both go and trash each other. However the LA Rams page will sometimes have some interesting photographs of people who go to the council meetings, which is mainly what I care about. The page had a ton of other pictures (some with expected travel time information, which frankly made me laugh as they looked like someone Google mapped directions at 3 AM without traffic) from the same meeting, lots of different information about the project as a whole, and some pictures. Rams or no Rams, the project is very cool, and looks quite beautiful.
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Inglewood football stadium developers run a hurry-up offense
By Tim Logan and Angel Jennings contact the reporters
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-inglewood-stadium-20150209-story.html
Inglewood football stadium backers are slicing through red tape in hopes of getting the project underway soon
By the plodding standards of big development in Southern California, the plan to build a football stadium in Inglewood is moving at a brisk pace.
The developers aim to slice through red tape that normally entangles major projects — often for years — by using a quirk in the way the state election and environmental laws work together.
They have proposed zoning changes for the stadium through a ballot initiative, which would allow them to skip lengthy reviews that civic and environmental activists say protect surrounding neighborhoods.
It's unclear how soon full-scale construction could begin, but developers want to break ground on the 80,000-seat, billion-dollar-plus stadium at the former Hollywood Park racetrack by year's end. That would give St. Louis Rams owner Stan Kroenke, a partner in the project, a big head start in the race to bring an NFL team to Los Angeles, though neither he nor the league has committed to moving a team here.
"It's moving forward pretty fast," said Inglewood resident Katrina Anderson, who attended a recent neighborhood meeting on the project. "I'm still not sure what we're signing or voting on."
In just 18 days, the developers collected 22,000 signatures, more than twice what was needed to put the measure on the ballot. The county is expected to finish certification by the end of the month, and city officials say an election could be held as soon as June.
There is one potentially even quicker option.
The Inglewood City Council, under initiative law, could bypass an election entirely and simply adopt the measure itself. City Council members would not discuss their intentions. They either did not return calls seeking comment or referred questions to Mayor James T. Butts Jr., a strong supporter of the stadium.
"I'm not prepared to make a commitment as to what way we are going to go," he said.
The city is ordering its own studies of economic and environmental impacts, due by early March. Those reports will be released, and public comment taken before any vote, he said.
The ballot initiative has become a popular strategy to fast-track major projects, especially in small municipalities where signatures can be gathered quickly, said land-use attorney Kristina Lawson, a former councilwoman in Walnut Creek, Calif.
"It's really in large part a CEQA-avoidance strategy," she said, referring to the California Environmental Quality Act, which mandates a lengthy investigation of potential environmental impacts and can trigger litigation that's even more time-consuming.
Whether to hold an election is a political calculation, Lawson said. Neighbors can organize against the project. Rival developers could finance a "no" campaign. But skipping one can anger residents who want a say.
"It's always a strategic consideration," Lawson said.
The Inglewood council would be on solid legal ground if it decides not to call an election. The California Supreme Court in August ruled that the City Council in Sonora could bypass the environmental review for a planned Wal-Mart store without a vote of the public.
Now developers and city councils have a clear path around CEQA reviews, said Juliet Cho, an environmental lawyer in San Francisco. But, she said, they still have to deal with public opinion.
Sentiment at town-hall meetings on the Hollywood Park project has been mixed.
At a recent gathering of the Around the Block Club, a neighborhood group near the Forum, people asked about parking, signage and public use of parks on the 298-acre site, but generally expressed support. Several signed the petition at the meeting.
"The stadium will change my neighborhood and my income," said James Burt, the group's president and a retired electrician who now works security at the Forum. "I wouldn't say 100% of people around here support it, but 98% or 99% do."
At another meeting, opponents voiced concerns about the hasty environmental-review process.
"It seems like you guys are not doing enough research before you're committing to do this to our city," one man shouted from his seat.
As a project spokesman tried to respond, the man cut him off.
"This idea about building a stadium has only been out there a month or so," he said. "No way you have done proper environmental studies on this thing."
Butts pointed out that the original Hollywood Park plan — for 3,000 houses and office and retail buildings on the former racetrack site — had an environmental review before the council approved it in 2009. And experience with the racetrack and the Forum across the street suggest that the area should be able to handle game-day traffic, he said.
The developers have plans to clear federal regulatory hurdles too. The Federal Aviation Administration requires in-depth reviews of tall buildings near airports; Los Angeles International Airport is three miles west of the stadium site. The developers plan to sink the stadium 100 feet into the ground, making it low enough to avoid the FAA study.
The goal, project spokesman Gerard McCallum said, is to work quickly so that when an NFL team officially declares its desire to move to Los Angeles — which could happen as early as January 2016 — it'll have a new home already under construction in Inglewood.
"We want to be playing football there," he said, "in September of 2018."
By Tim Logan and Angel Jennings contact the reporters
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-inglewood-stadium-20150209-story.html
Inglewood football stadium backers are slicing through red tape in hopes of getting the project underway soon
By the plodding standards of big development in Southern California, the plan to build a football stadium in Inglewood is moving at a brisk pace.
The developers aim to slice through red tape that normally entangles major projects — often for years — by using a quirk in the way the state election and environmental laws work together.
They have proposed zoning changes for the stadium through a ballot initiative, which would allow them to skip lengthy reviews that civic and environmental activists say protect surrounding neighborhoods.
It's unclear how soon full-scale construction could begin, but developers want to break ground on the 80,000-seat, billion-dollar-plus stadium at the former Hollywood Park racetrack by year's end. That would give St. Louis Rams owner Stan Kroenke, a partner in the project, a big head start in the race to bring an NFL team to Los Angeles, though neither he nor the league has committed to moving a team here.
"It's moving forward pretty fast," said Inglewood resident Katrina Anderson, who attended a recent neighborhood meeting on the project. "I'm still not sure what we're signing or voting on."
In just 18 days, the developers collected 22,000 signatures, more than twice what was needed to put the measure on the ballot. The county is expected to finish certification by the end of the month, and city officials say an election could be held as soon as June.
There is one potentially even quicker option.
The Inglewood City Council, under initiative law, could bypass an election entirely and simply adopt the measure itself. City Council members would not discuss their intentions. They either did not return calls seeking comment or referred questions to Mayor James T. Butts Jr., a strong supporter of the stadium.
"I'm not prepared to make a commitment as to what way we are going to go," he said.
The city is ordering its own studies of economic and environmental impacts, due by early March. Those reports will be released, and public comment taken before any vote, he said.
The ballot initiative has become a popular strategy to fast-track major projects, especially in small municipalities where signatures can be gathered quickly, said land-use attorney Kristina Lawson, a former councilwoman in Walnut Creek, Calif.
"It's really in large part a CEQA-avoidance strategy," she said, referring to the California Environmental Quality Act, which mandates a lengthy investigation of potential environmental impacts and can trigger litigation that's even more time-consuming.
Whether to hold an election is a political calculation, Lawson said. Neighbors can organize against the project. Rival developers could finance a "no" campaign. But skipping one can anger residents who want a say.
"It's always a strategic consideration," Lawson said.
The Inglewood council would be on solid legal ground if it decides not to call an election. The California Supreme Court in August ruled that the City Council in Sonora could bypass the environmental review for a planned Wal-Mart store without a vote of the public.
Now developers and city councils have a clear path around CEQA reviews, said Juliet Cho, an environmental lawyer in San Francisco. But, she said, they still have to deal with public opinion.
Sentiment at town-hall meetings on the Hollywood Park project has been mixed.
At a recent gathering of the Around the Block Club, a neighborhood group near the Forum, people asked about parking, signage and public use of parks on the 298-acre site, but generally expressed support. Several signed the petition at the meeting.
"The stadium will change my neighborhood and my income," said James Burt, the group's president and a retired electrician who now works security at the Forum. "I wouldn't say 100% of people around here support it, but 98% or 99% do."
At another meeting, opponents voiced concerns about the hasty environmental-review process.
"It seems like you guys are not doing enough research before you're committing to do this to our city," one man shouted from his seat.
As a project spokesman tried to respond, the man cut him off.
"This idea about building a stadium has only been out there a month or so," he said. "No way you have done proper environmental studies on this thing."
Butts pointed out that the original Hollywood Park plan — for 3,000 houses and office and retail buildings on the former racetrack site — had an environmental review before the council approved it in 2009. And experience with the racetrack and the Forum across the street suggest that the area should be able to handle game-day traffic, he said.
The developers have plans to clear federal regulatory hurdles too. The Federal Aviation Administration requires in-depth reviews of tall buildings near airports; Los Angeles International Airport is three miles west of the stadium site. The developers plan to sink the stadium 100 feet into the ground, making it low enough to avoid the FAA study.
The goal, project spokesman Gerard McCallum said, is to work quickly so that when an NFL team officially declares its desire to move to Los Angeles — which could happen as early as January 2016 — it'll have a new home already under construction in Inglewood.
"We want to be playing football there," he said, "in September of 2018."
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This is the part that irks me the most.
I keep hoping he's going to come out eventually and save the day for STL. The fans and city deserve it.
But, if he doesn't? Seriously, what a scum.
You're only as good as your word. If his word is of no value, then he has no value to me.
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Morning Ram-blings: Dirt moving in L.A.
By Nick Wagoner
http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/16071/morning-ram-blings-dirt-moving-in-l-a
EARTH CITY, Mo. -- As the battle for territory for an NFL stadium in Los Angeles wages on, there's at least some evidence that the Hollywood Park project, the project that involves St. Louis Rams owner Stan Kroenke, is gaining some traction.
STLtoday.com's David Hunn recently took a trip to Los Angeles to tour the tract of land where the City of Champions project is proposed and offered news that there is dirt turning, water pipes being placed, and land being cleared.
As Hunn writes, none of this is directly involved with the proposed stadium so much as the development that's expected to surround it, but it at least represents some sort of tangible progress toward the project.
There are still many hurdles to clear for the actual stadium to be approved, but Inglewood mayor James T. Butts expressed plenty of confidence that the stadium and its surrounding development would become a reality.
In other news, columnist Bernie Miklasz wrote over the weekend that Kroenke actually spent some time chatting with Dave Peacock, who is pushing forward on a St. Louis stadium proposal, at the Super Bowl. It was obviously an informal meeting but Peacock told Miklasz that Kroenke was "encouraging and appreciative, and really couldn’t have been nicer."
I.C.Y.M.I.
A roundup of the weekend's Rams stories appearing on ESPN.com. ... In his second mock draft, Todd McShay sends another former West Virginia receiver to the Rams. ... We then looked ahead to the Hall of Fame candidacy of Torry Holt and Isaac Bruce for 2016. ... A breakdown of new offensive coordinator Frank Cignetti's offenses at the college level. ... This week's Twitter mailbag hit on a variety of topics. ... Finally, we examined the 10th pick in the draft and how the Rams have used it in the past.
Elsewhere:
Former Rams offensive lineman Richie Incognito has found a landing place, signing with the Buffalo Bills.
John Clayton's weekly mailbag runs the gamut of things to know heading into the offseason.
At 101sports.com, the Fast Lane discussed the Rams standing by Sam Bradford at quarterback.
Miklasz offered his thoughts on the Hall of Fame exclusion of Kurt Warner and Orlando Pace.
Jim Thomas writes that the Rams won't face salary cap issues this offseason because of some potential moves.
By Nick Wagoner
http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/16071/morning-ram-blings-dirt-moving-in-l-a
EARTH CITY, Mo. -- As the battle for territory for an NFL stadium in Los Angeles wages on, there's at least some evidence that the Hollywood Park project, the project that involves St. Louis Rams owner Stan Kroenke, is gaining some traction.
STLtoday.com's David Hunn recently took a trip to Los Angeles to tour the tract of land where the City of Champions project is proposed and offered news that there is dirt turning, water pipes being placed, and land being cleared.
As Hunn writes, none of this is directly involved with the proposed stadium so much as the development that's expected to surround it, but it at least represents some sort of tangible progress toward the project.
There are still many hurdles to clear for the actual stadium to be approved, but Inglewood mayor James T. Butts expressed plenty of confidence that the stadium and its surrounding development would become a reality.
In other news, columnist Bernie Miklasz wrote over the weekend that Kroenke actually spent some time chatting with Dave Peacock, who is pushing forward on a St. Louis stadium proposal, at the Super Bowl. It was obviously an informal meeting but Peacock told Miklasz that Kroenke was "encouraging and appreciative, and really couldn’t have been nicer."
I.C.Y.M.I.
A roundup of the weekend's Rams stories appearing on ESPN.com. ... In his second mock draft, Todd McShay sends another former West Virginia receiver to the Rams. ... We then looked ahead to the Hall of Fame candidacy of Torry Holt and Isaac Bruce for 2016. ... A breakdown of new offensive coordinator Frank Cignetti's offenses at the college level. ... This week's Twitter mailbag hit on a variety of topics. ... Finally, we examined the 10th pick in the draft and how the Rams have used it in the past.
Elsewhere:
Former Rams offensive lineman Richie Incognito has found a landing place, signing with the Buffalo Bills.
John Clayton's weekly mailbag runs the gamut of things to know heading into the offseason.
At 101sports.com, the Fast Lane discussed the Rams standing by Sam Bradford at quarterback.
Miklasz offered his thoughts on the Hall of Fame exclusion of Kurt Warner and Orlando Pace.
Jim Thomas writes that the Rams won't face salary cap issues this offseason because of some potential moves.
ChrisW
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This story couldn't have been more ambiguous. I wish this guy would have dug into the building permits just to see what they have been approved for. I looked on the Inglewood site to check them out, and there's like 60 pages for the December 2014 permits alone.
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/09/khan-wants-to-extend-jaguars-london-stay/
Khan wants to extend Jaguars’ London stay
Posted by Mike Florio on February 9, 2015
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The Jaguars have completed 50 percent of their four-year deal to play one game per year in London. Owner Shad Khan wants to go beyond the current agreement.
“It’s been really great for us,” Khan told Daniel Kaplan of SportsBusiness Journal. “Our goal is to extend it.”
And for good reason. Khan said that the Jaguars are expected to jump to 22nd in projected revenue for the 2015 season, up from 32nd when Khan bought the team in 2011. Playing one home game per year in London has helped that effort, because Wembley Stadium has more seats than EverBank Field and the ticket prices are higher in England.
Given that reality, some may worry that Khan will want to play all of the team’s games in London — especially if he fears that another team will move there and cut off the demand for a once-per-year visit from the Jags. Still, Khan has been steadfast in his commitment to Jacksonville as the home base of the franchise.
Khan wants to extend Jaguars’ London stay
Posted by Mike Florio on February 9, 2015
The Jaguars have completed 50 percent of their four-year deal to play one game per year in London. Owner Shad Khan wants to go beyond the current agreement.
“It’s been really great for us,” Khan told Daniel Kaplan of SportsBusiness Journal. “Our goal is to extend it.”
And for good reason. Khan said that the Jaguars are expected to jump to 22nd in projected revenue for the 2015 season, up from 32nd when Khan bought the team in 2011. Playing one home game per year in London has helped that effort, because Wembley Stadium has more seats than EverBank Field and the ticket prices are higher in England.
Given that reality, some may worry that Khan will want to play all of the team’s games in London — especially if he fears that another team will move there and cut off the demand for a once-per-year visit from the Jags. Still, Khan has been steadfast in his commitment to Jacksonville as the home base of the franchise.
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/09/khan-wants-to-extend-jaguars-london-stay/
Khan wants to extend Jaguars’ London stay
Posted by Mike Florio on February 9, 2015
Getty Images
The Jaguars have completed 50 percent of their four-year deal to play one game per year in London. Owner Shad Khan wants to go beyond the current agreement.
“It’s been really great for us,” Khan told Daniel Kaplan of SportsBusiness Journal. “Our goal is to extend it.”
And for good reason. Khan said that the Jaguars are expected to jump to 22nd in projected revenue for the 2015 season, up from 32nd when Khan bought the team in 2011. Playing one home game per year in London has helped that effort, because Wembley Stadium has more seats than EverBank Field and the ticket prices are higher in England.
Given that reality, some may worry that Khan will want to play all of the team’s games in London — especially if he fears that another team will move there and cut off the demand for a once-per-year visit from the Jags. Still, Khan has been steadfast in his commitment to Jacksonville as the home base of the franchise.
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Did they really just send a guy out there to see the area? They couldn't have hired a guy already in LA to take some photographs, or used some older photographs? Dirt has been moving since last summer, what a waste of time.
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