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Good discussion.
It is interesting to look at things from a "managerial" point of view. Developing culture, vision and direction is not an easy thing.
I agree about Fisher being chosen to lead in a long term change. I have said many times teams that experience long term success (Steelers, Packers, Pats, NYG) have consistent leadership. I like Snead in the FO. The difference in the draft (not arguing specific picks) in terms of having a plan and executing said plan has been refreshing. The use of cap dollars and how contracts have been set up has been wise in that money is coming free just as the glut of draft picks come into free agency. The youth movement with O line reflects this as well. Looking to build an identity. There is a reason Pittsburgh's D is very consistent. Even this year they have been better than expected overall. They have very short stints of being a bad D. One big reason is they know how to draft "their" guys. They can find those pass rushing 3/4 OLBs others struggle to find. You can see the same thing in NE and GB with players.
So, to me, I am keeping Fisher. The movement to building a consistently competitive team....the old fashioned way....through draft and patience and developing an identity....is well on the way. When a rebuilding of a franchise in undertaken (not a simple overhaul to a total rebuild nearly) it may take 3 years, it may take 6. To suddenly change direction now because a couple of pieces are lagging behind would be a big mistake in my humble opinion.
As for Arians....yeah, he could very well lead Arizona to a Super Bowl. Although that has a lot more to do with Palmer than Arians in my opinion. Look how smart Ken W looked when he had Warner running the O.
If the Rams can keep their D together through FA that side of the ball has been rebuilt. I think the O line has been addressed long term despite the current state of injury. With Robinson, Havenstein, Battle, Williams, Saffold, Brown, Wichmann, Donnal and Barnes the chance of finding a very good starting 5 that stays together for a good stretch is high. I like the approach the FO took toward the O line this offseason. The youth movement is looking to long term success, not immediate short term gain.
The crux is finding a franchise QB. That is a tough one as we all know. Maybe the toughest thing to find in all of sports. I for one would like to see the team spread a wide net. The rest of this season to me should be about determining if Foles or Keenum is worth keeping to be part of a QB competition next year.
I still believe the team is not far away.
I am keeping Fisher.
It is interesting to look at things from a "managerial" point of view. Developing culture, vision and direction is not an easy thing.
Sorry but Fisher IMO was not brought in to simply draft and sign his guys. He was brought in to orchestrate a new long term approach that brings about sustainability.
Do we think Arians is going to lead the Tards to the Superbowl
I agree about Fisher being chosen to lead in a long term change. I have said many times teams that experience long term success (Steelers, Packers, Pats, NYG) have consistent leadership. I like Snead in the FO. The difference in the draft (not arguing specific picks) in terms of having a plan and executing said plan has been refreshing. The use of cap dollars and how contracts have been set up has been wise in that money is coming free just as the glut of draft picks come into free agency. The youth movement with O line reflects this as well. Looking to build an identity. There is a reason Pittsburgh's D is very consistent. Even this year they have been better than expected overall. They have very short stints of being a bad D. One big reason is they know how to draft "their" guys. They can find those pass rushing 3/4 OLBs others struggle to find. You can see the same thing in NE and GB with players.
So, to me, I am keeping Fisher. The movement to building a consistently competitive team....the old fashioned way....through draft and patience and developing an identity....is well on the way. When a rebuilding of a franchise in undertaken (not a simple overhaul to a total rebuild nearly) it may take 3 years, it may take 6. To suddenly change direction now because a couple of pieces are lagging behind would be a big mistake in my humble opinion.
As for Arians....yeah, he could very well lead Arizona to a Super Bowl. Although that has a lot more to do with Palmer than Arians in my opinion. Look how smart Ken W looked when he had Warner running the O.
If the Rams can keep their D together through FA that side of the ball has been rebuilt. I think the O line has been addressed long term despite the current state of injury. With Robinson, Havenstein, Battle, Williams, Saffold, Brown, Wichmann, Donnal and Barnes the chance of finding a very good starting 5 that stays together for a good stretch is high. I like the approach the FO took toward the O line this offseason. The youth movement is looking to long term success, not immediate short term gain.
The crux is finding a franchise QB. That is a tough one as we all know. Maybe the toughest thing to find in all of sports. I for one would like to see the team spread a wide net. The rest of this season to me should be about determining if Foles or Keenum is worth keeping to be part of a QB competition next year.
I still believe the team is not far away.
I am keeping Fisher.