Which WR excites you the most for the Rams?
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My Lord would I be disappointed if we traded up for Tate. Tyson and Love I could understand. Tate, no.
WestCoastRam
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Really, what don't you like?
Think he's probably a top 10 receiver in the league within 3 years.
Outside shot he's Devonte Adams at the end of the day.
I just don't see IT with him. He's solid, but, I have him behind both Tyson and Tate and bascially tied with Cooper/Concepcion in my rankings. He has no area where he is dominate and I'm concerned that he saw a lot of soft coverages in college due to the deity that was lined up opposite him. The other 2 top guys were the offense of their teams for the most part.
If it's just a small move up I'd be ok with it. But yes Tate is simply not heads and shoulders above the rest. He's just a very safe pick who adds nice size and is by all accounts a great kid, who will benefit from a weak draft up top.
This is why I keep saying Boston isn't so far off him when you watch their film. They're quite close I think, so if Boston goes in the 20s some playoff team will get a dude who is about equivalent to the wideout a team in the top ten got.
You cannot teach size and hands. And smoothness in the pattern is very hard to teach at the NFL level. So I doubt Boston gets to the 20s but who the hell knows this year.
WestCoastRam
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Well you don't have to sell me on KC, he's my fav receiver in the draft and I can at least see how his drop issue is solved.
I don't put a ton of stock into the benefiting from Jeremiah issue as the guys who were the number 1's in their offense could equally be argued that they benefited from being fed an outsized portion of their targets.
I think from what I've seen (which is a little cause I didn't think we'd possibly get him) is him winning in multiple ways which will translate to an NFL offense.
I also don't begrudge anyone saying that Tyson is the better receiver - well just maybe that Tate is better now but Tyson has a higher ceiling. I like Tate, I don't love trading up for him.
I also like Cooper at a later price. I think he'd be a very good Z and slot in this offense.
WestCoastRam
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I totally understand where flatlyner is coming from, and I agree with Merlin here. Tate is good, but not much better (or worse) than the other guys in the discussion.
If Tate fell to #13, I'd take him there, but there's no way I trade up for him or any receiver in this class, even Lemon or Tyson (both of whom I'd love to have on this team). Would be a different story if it was 2027 (looking like a fantastic WR draft as well), but this class has good receivers that will be there after a trade-down to the mid-first or at #61.
El Chapo Jr
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I agree, I don't think Tate is anything special but I would be like cool if we did haha
El Chapo Jr
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Yeah if we traded up, I'd obviously rather it be for Tyson but I think everyone knows that beaten deadhorse ass view of mine lol
12intheBox
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I consider Tyson and Lemon being pretty special. TBH, if Tate fell to 13 I'd be really hoping for a trade back offer. I would be considerably happier trading back to grab the next 3 (Cooper/Concepcion/Boston) then sticking and picking Tate. I'm sure he'd be fine in our system, just do not see special.
Tate will be very good and likley a safe pick, but some of the other guys look like they could be more dynamic with more upside. So I agree.
WestCoastRam
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From my understanding when you see a receiver make difficult catches (and he has a number on his film) the drops tend to be concentration issues and not things like confidence, technique, body control, catching through contact (I'm looking at you Fergy).
I think if he's got the other things down, focus drills are much easier to train up then technique that's been muscle memorized in, desire to fight for the ball, etc...
That being said, he did have a few reps where he slowed up around certain types of contact not letting him get to the ball... that could be an issue.
WestCoastRam
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I like Lemon but there's a decent gap between Tate and him in my book.
12intheBox
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I guess I feel like these major college programs would also know about these drills? The drops aren’t something that came on suddenly in the last few months - it’s just kind of been a thing in his game for years, right?
Still, it’s an impressive game. May be worth dealing with the drops and hoping that they do get better.
WestCoastRam
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Truly depends on the school and even then how much time they're spending on this stuff.
His drop rate is a problem, without it I believe he's actually the #1 receiver in the draft.
Teams prob doing their homework on it and where he's taken will let us know what they think. I would not be shocked if he's the 3rd receiver off the board but don't think it's likely.
