Titans GM: Trade interest is increasing for NFL Draft's No. 1 pick

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OldSchool said:
Doctson is nice but Cook, Keenum and Mannion is trotting out more garbage at QB and we're back to drafting the position in a year or two.
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U don't know that keenum was a couple drops away from 4 or 5 in a row. Also I still got hope for mannion
 
lockdnram21 said:
U don't know that keenum was a couple drops away from 4 or 5 in a row. Also I still got hope for mannion
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He was also a few lucky plays from winning 1 of those starts, it goes both way. IMO Mannion is Cook with a stronger arm. An average QB who'll be a career backup, the next Shaun Hill basically.
 
OldSchool said:
He was also a few lucky plays from winning 1 of those starts, it goes both way. IMO Mannion is Cook with a stronger arm. An average QB who'll be a career backup, the next Shaun Hill basically.
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I'm not sure what mannion is. With good line play and a couple weapons he can be good
 
lockdnram21 said:
That means no decent wide out or cb. Rather draft doctson in first and try and trade up for Cook with both seconds or roll with keenum and Mannion.
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A. It doesn't necessarily mean that. Decent wide outs and CBs are drafted in rounds 3-7 and picked up undrafted every year.

B. Even if it did, I would much rather have a meh WR corps and a plus QB than a plus WR corps and a meh QB. It's not even close in my mind on this point.
 
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12intheBox said:
A. It doesn't necessarily mean that. Decent wide outs and CBs are drafted in rounds 3-7 and picked up undrafted every year.

B. Even if it did, I would much rather have a meh WR corps and a plus QB than a plus WR corps and a meh QB. It's not even close in my mind on this point.
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This draft sucks at wr and its no guarantee that the QN works out. Could be redskins all over again
 
OldSchool said:
You said he was somebody who played for 10+ years at excellent play and gave you pro bowl level play. Well guess what you just described a 10 year pro who's excellent and in the pro bowl regularly.
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No this is what I said:

We may have different ideas of what a franchise QB is. IMO it's a guy who gives you a decade plus of excellent play and gets to at least a few pro bowls.

You're more interested in a point by point argument rather than a discussion at this point. I've said enough at this point. You don't agree, that's your perogative and telling me that I have an opinion that's wrong because it's different than yours isn't getting this conversation moving in a fun direction.
 
lockdnram21 said:
This draft sucks at wr and its no guarantee that the QN works out. Could be redskins all over again
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Could be any number of things. Any position, any player, at any draft slot could bust or could go to the hall. That never changes - year after year. It will always be a gamble - for every team.

Here is what is unique about this year.

We have 2 2nd rounders. It happens, but it's not the norm. We have the capital to move up.

The team at #1 doesn't need the #1 pick. It happens sometimes - but again, not the norm.
 
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-X- said:
Maybe not, but they need Tunsil in the worst way.
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I'm not sure that Lewan isn't still a LT they can count on. Even if not, at 15 they could still have a shot at Stanley or Conklin.

What the Titans really need is an influx of talent. They could go with one blue chipper or they could get 4 top 50 players. Which do you think helps them more?
 
12intheBox said:
I'm not sure that Lewan isn't still a LT they can count on. Even if not, at 15 they could still have a shot at Stanley or Conklin.

What the Titans really need is an influx of talent. They could go with one blue chipper or they could get 4 top 50 players. Which do you think helps them more?
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Honestly? Tunsil. Maximizing your chances of protecting Mariota has to be top priority.
 
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-X- said:
Honestly? Tunsil. Maximizing your chances of protecting Mariota has to be top priority.
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If I knew Stanley was there at 15 I would strongly disagree.

Since I don't know that, I can only moderately disagree.

Tunsil isn't some once in a generation guy - and he might not be the pick even if the Titans stay at 1.
 
12intheBox said:
If I knew Stanley was there at 15 I would strongly disagree.

Since I don't know that, I can only moderately disagree.

Tunsil isn't some once in a generation guy - and he might not be the pick even if the Titans stay at 1.
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Yeah, we can disagree on that. It's cool.
Who do you think they would value more than Tunsil at #1 overall?
 
-X- said:
Yeah, we can disagree on that. It's cool.
Who do you think they would value more than Tunsil at #1 overall?
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Ramsey - I think he gets a good hard look there.

But honestly, I think they find a deal they like out there somewhere.
 
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12intheBox said:
Ramsey - I think he gets a good hard look there.

But honestly, I think they find a deal they like out there somewhere.
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I think anyone at the #1 spot has to consider Ramsey. Best player in this draft, IMO. They said they'd have to be floored by an offer to move out of that spot, so that means it has to be markedly better than what the Skins gave us. Can't think of many teams that would match the stupidity displayed by the Redskins that year. Especially considering how it turned out. But ... you never know.
 
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Yeah, RG3 actually devalues the transaction because he didn't work out. No team is gonna pay that. Honestly, what made them also take Cousins? That bailed them out because otherwise, they'd be screwed blue and tattooed.
 
-X- said:
I think anyone at the #1 spot has to consider Ramsey. Best player in this draft, IMO. They said they'd have to be floored by an offer to move out of that spot, so that means it has to be markedly better than what the Skins gave us. Can't think of many teams that would match the stupidity displayed by the Redskins that year. Especially considering how it turned out. But ... you never know.
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Of course they say that. Why wouldn't they?

At some point between now and the 28th - they will leak that they have a strong offer on the table that they are weighing.

Doesn't make either statement true.

RGIII isn't the new industry norm. We haven't seen anything like it since and likely won't.
 
12intheBox said:
Of course they say that. Why wouldn't they?

At some point between now and the 28th - they will leak that they have a strong offer on the table that they are weighing.

Doesn't make either statement true.

RGIII isn't the new industry norm. We haven't seen anything like it since and likely won't.
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I think you're misunderstanding me. I'm saying that the Titans are looking for a Redskins-like offer, and teams are now unwilling to make a Redskins-like offer simply because of how it worked out. So with the two things working in conflict with each other, I doubt a deal gets done.
 
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I think you're misunderstanding me. I'm saying that the Titans are looking for a Redskins-like offer, and teams are now unwilling to make a Redskins-like offer simply because of how it worked out. So with the two things working in conflict with each other, I doubt a deal gets done.
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I hear ya - but in the end the Titans have to do what's best for the Titans. If an RGIII offer never comes, and yet an offer somewhat south of that IS on the table - taking that offer may still be best for the team. And that's what I think will happen.

It sounds like the 9ers, Rams, and Eagles are all kicking the tires right now.
 
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