This guy rules, wish he was in horns

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Rambitious1

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Sorry, but that was ALL Snead. Dude gets more love than I think he deserves on here, but he homered up that draft something fierce. GSlob AND Tre Mason from his alum. Terrible stuff. The AD pick was a no brainer, and I would almost bet that Fisher was behind that one. Not trying to hate on Snead, but I, for one, cannot forget some of the mind boggling picks he has made since being here.

Not saying you are wrong, but do you have any evidence to support that it was “all Sneed?”
Especially considering it was my understanding that Fisher had final say on personnel.

It was probably some of both. JMHO.
 

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Meh.

I take, enthusiastically, ALL the good and bad that have led us to this place.

Had we taken Mack and then still got AD, it's likely the D is just good enough that Fisher is still around...and F THAT!!!

So, I'm happy that we're where we are...and we could only have gotten here because of the poop we stepped in, the rivers we've forded, the bumps and scrapes we've sustained along the way and even the very dark night that seemed to last longer than an Alaskan winter.

We're at the dawn of a new day, poised on the precipice, ready to reap the rewards of surviving a harsh winter and diligently planting seeds which are about to bear a great bounty.

Every failure is a brick in the road to success.

Sure, we had a lot of bricks. That also means if we're diligent, we're set to pave a long road to the success this franchise and its fans so richly deserve.
 

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Not saying you are wrong, but do you have any evidence to support that it was “all Sneed?”
Especially considering it was my understanding that Fisher had final say on personnel.

It was probably some of both. JMHO.

I'm sure there was Auburn alumni bias in Snead's selection of GRob and Mason. Still gonna blame Fisher though knowing that him and his coaching staff are responsible for developing these players.
 

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Looking over the last five drafts, I'm pretty damn sure who made the following picks between Snead and Fisher:

Snead: Jared Goff
Snead:Tyler Higbee
Snead: Pharoh Cooper
Snead: Temarrick Hemingway
Snead: Mike Thomas
Snead:Todd Gurley
Snead: Rob Havenstein
Snead: Jamon Brown
Snead: Bryce Hager
Snead: Aaron Donald
Snead: Lamarcus Joyner
Snead: Tre Mason
Snead: E.J. Gaines
Snead: Alec Ogletree
Snead: T.J. McDonald
Snead: Stedman Bailey
Snead: Zac Stacy
Snead: Michael Brockers
Snead: Janoris Jenkins
Snead: Trumaine Johnson

Fassel: Greg Zuerlein

Fisher: Josh Forrest
Fisher: Isaiah Battle
Fisher: Sean Mannion
Fisher: Andrew Donnal
Fisher: Bud Sasser
Fisher: Cody Wichmann
Fisher: Martin Ifedi
Fisher: Greg Robinson
Fisher: Mo Alexander
Fisher: Garrett Gilbert
Fisher: Mitchell Van Dyk
Fisher: C.B. Bryant
Fisher: Michael Sam
Fisher: Demetrius Rhaney
Fisher: Tavon Austin
Fisher: Barrett Jones
Fisher: Brandon McGee
Fisher: Brian Quick
Fisher: Isaiah Pead
Fisher: Chris Givens
Fisher: Rokevious Watkins
Fisher: Aaron Brown
Fisher: Daryl Richardson
 

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Lewan off the field issues were too much of a red flag for me
Because of an alleged.....criminal/terroristic threat???? Seems to be an upstanding young man now....

I would seriously like to be around some of you guys when you were 20 yrs old and in college....
Matthews IMO, was the safest pick
Safe maybe....but no where near the "best" player.

I'm not looking for "safe" at #2 overall....I'm looking for a perennial pro-bowler....possible HOF'er
 

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Looking over the last five drafts, I'm pretty damn sure who made the following picks between Snead and Fisher:

Snead: Jared Goff
Snead:Tyler Higbee
Snead: Pharoh Cooper
Snead: Temarrick Hemingway
Snead: Mike Thomas
Snead:Todd Gurley
Snead: Rob Havenstein
Snead: Jamon Brown
Snead: Bryce Hager
Snead: Aaron Donald
Snead: Lamarcus Joyner
Snead: Tre Mason
Snead: E.J. Gaines
Snead: Alec Ogletree
Snead: T.J. McDonald
Snead: Stedman Bailey
Snead: Zac Stacy
Snead: Michael Brockers
Snead: Janoris Jenkins
Snead: Trumaine Johnson

Fassel: Greg Zuerlein

Fisher: Josh Forrest
Fisher: Isaiah Battle
Fisher: Sean Mannion
Fisher: Andrew Donnal
Fisher: Bud Sasser
Fisher: Cody Wichmann
Fisher: Martin Ifedi
Fisher: Greg Robinson
Fisher: Mo Alexander
Fisher: Garrett Gilbert
Fisher: Mitchell Van Dyk
Fisher: C.B. Bryant
Fisher: Michael Sam
Fisher: Demetrius Rhaney
Fisher: Tavon Austin
Fisher: Barrett Jones
Fisher: Brandon McGee
Fisher: Brian Quick
Fisher: Isaiah Pead
Fisher: Chris Givens
Fisher: Rokevious Watkins
Fisher: Aaron Brown
Fisher: Daryl Richardson

Blame game in a nutshell lol.
 

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Because of an alleged.....criminal/terroristic threat???? Seems to be an upstanding young man now....

Not alleged. Two Michigan players heard Lewan say that he'll rape the rape victim of his buddy if she goes to the police. They reported it. Nothing was done, except for a slap on the wrist, if that.

I don't give a flying fuck who he seems to be now; he'll always be the guy who threatened rape, and that's something that's unforgivable, in my eyes.
 

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I would seriously like to be around some of you guys when you were 20 yrs old and in college....

FWIW's at 20 I was serving in the Air Force in Special Operations (Combat Control) and when not on special assignment, I was going to college at night...That's what I was doing at 20, that and juggling a few relationships, so you might have me there.
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Two Michigan players heard Lewan say that he'll rape the rape victim of his buddy if she goes to the police. They reported it. Nothing was done, except for a slap on the wrist, if that.
Seems like if it was a credible threat...and taken seriously...he'd have been arrested.
No you wouldn't. Trust me........
hahahahaha....yea, I would...

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Choirboy huh?....den, times were different....air force...probably walked 4 miles to school in the snow kinda guy?....not guys like you...
 

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Choirboy huh?....den, times were different....air force...probably walked 4 miles to school in the snow kinda guy?....not guys like you...

IDK, I was very arrogant back then, they had a film crew for the special operations unit and I always had my back towards the camera, when the director asked me to turn around, I told him every time I face a camera the divorce rate in the country goes up. So we did things in our younger years, we would like to have back, but I respected the laws and my Father preached "Treat People, like you would like to be treated." So I always tried to follow that rule.
 

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I would seriously like to be around some of you guys when you were 20 yrs old and in college.
I'm sure all these critical voices on here were absolute angels when they were his age.

Ummm.. probably not. :D

The biggest difference was these guys weren't famous so nobody was there to report on their misdeeds and post them on the Internet for everybody to read years later so they can pretend like they never happened.

I was a perfect angel too. (Wink wink)