Bears Rams Trade Rumor

[Memento]

I am always amazed at how enamored some fans get over players on a 6-10 team.

IMO, Brockers is good, but he ain't 'all that'. And though I'm not sure I'd make this particular trade, he's far from untouchable. If they were to just put him on the market for a draft pick, I doubt they could get more than a 3rd for him....possibly only a 4th.

Wait, so we shouldn't get enamored with good players who happen to be on a losing team? So that means that Quinn, Donald, Gaines, Robinson, etc. also fall under that category because they're on a 6-10 team? Stop the presses.

 

[LACHAMP46]

Does anyone really think that Fairley would do the same thing?

Hell yeah...Fairly has some serious talent, looks motivated, and was a far better player coming out than Brockers.....both have similar injury histories in the pros...

Rams end up with the 7th and 10th picks in the draft. Would you make that trade?

Hell yeah....

 

[Memphis Ram]

Lots of angst over something that might not even happen.

Anyway, the Rams abandoned the Left DT, Right DT scheme and went to a 3 Tech, NT lineup with Brockers playing the latter.

Maybe Brockers doesn't want to play NT and wants to go back to more of a play making role. Maybe the Rams don't want to extend and pay a lot of money for a two down run stuffer now.

Either way, there's no chance the team is simply going to give him away for nothing. Hey, maybe Chris Long's brother could be included in a potential deal.

 

[62ramsfan]

I read a post on Rams Talk today from "blueboys69" who has proven to have some inside connections to the Rams before. He had some good info last year that he shared before the draft on what the Rams were going to do in the draft and who they liked, and it proved to be correct. Today he said that the Rams have only 7 players graded as elite in this draft.

With the Bears at #7, that gives this rumor some legs. Cooper and White might be gone, but they'd still be sure they get one of the 7 talents they think is elite. Also said that DeVante Parker is not one of the 7.

 

[Memento]

Hell yeah...Fairly has some serious talent, looks motivated, and was a far better player coming out than Brockers.....both have similar injury histories in the pros...

So Nick Fairley - a cheapshot artist extraordinaire who has been known to come into camp overweight and out of shape in the past, has complained about playing second-fiddle to Suh in the past, and has four DUIs on his record (which means that another one will get him at least two games) - is going to just happily accept being a nose tackle?

I don't believe it for one second.

 

[Dieter the Brock]

I read a post on Rams Talk today from "blueboys69" who has proven to have some inside connections to the Rams before. He had some good info last year on what they're going to do in the draft and who they liked that he shared before the draft and it was correct. Today he said that the Rams have only 7 players graded as elite in this draft. With the Bears at #7, that gives this rumor some legs. Cooper and White might be gone, but they'd still be sure they get one of the 7 talents they think is elite. Also said that DeVante Parker is not one of the 7.

Okay this may be true - let's say the Rams only have 7 players they think are elite - trading Brockers and the 10# to move up to 7 is a joke

 

[LACHAMP46]

So that means that Quinn, Donald, Gaines, Robinson, etc. also fall under that category because they're on a 6-10 team?

Those two are superstars....totally different. those are "untouchable" types, if there are untouchables anymore...

 

[Memento]

Those two are superstars....totally different. those are "untouchable" types, if there are untouchables anymore...

Sarcasm. I didn't think that I needed blue font for it, but I was wrong about that. My bad.

 

[Ramsey]

What need would we have for Fowler or Beasley? Fowler would be a 4-3 end if he was with us; how does that help us right now? Beasley would be a linebacker and would only come in on passing situations. Again, how does that help us now?

First off, if a NFL General Manager wants to keep his job for long, he must draft for the future as well as the now.

2nd- Beasley would start at LB anytime we have 3 LB's on the field. And possibly when Rams only have two LB's. Beasley is a huge upgrade over Dunbar! Plus Beasley is future double digit sack man.

Fowler- According to scouting reports Fowler could play outside linebacker in a 4-3 defense. Again upgrade over Dunbar. Plus Fowler is an agile, atheletic, fast, edge rusher. I'm sure Fowler would see plenty of defensive snaps. And Fowler could be groomed as a future replacement for Chris Long.

 

[Memento]

First off, if a NFL General Manager wants to keep his job for long, he must draft for the future as well as the now.

2nd- Beasley would start at LB anytime we have 3 LB's on the field. And possibly when Rams only have two LB's. Beasley is a huge upgrade over Dunbar! Plus Beasley is future double digit sack man.

Fowler- According to scouting reports Fowler could play outside linebacker in a 4-3 defense. Again upgrade over Dunbar. Plus Fowler is an agile, atheletic, fast, edge rusher. I'm sure Fowler would see plenty of defensive snaps. And Fowler could be groomed as a future replacement for Chris Long.

Yeah, no. I don't trust Beasley. He's played the disappearing act too many times. As for Fowler, he's not athletic enough to be a 4-3 outside linebacker. 3-4? Certainly. To a 4-3 team that needs a defensive end, which we currently don't? Sure. I'd rather have Ray in the second than Fowler in the first. No need to draft them when you have other options later in the draft. It's piss poor management.

 

[Leuzer]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAfws1yiNl4


I think this is exactly what it appears to be: just another rumor.

 

[Corbin]

First off, if a NFL General Manager wants to keep his job for long, he must draft for the future as well as the now.

2nd- Beasley would start at LB anytime we have 3 LB's on the field. And possibly when Rams only have two LB's. Beasley is a huge upgrade over Dunbar! Plus Beasley is future double digit sack man.

Fowler- According to scouting reports Fowler could play outside linebacker in a 4-3 defense. Again upgrade over Dunbar. Plus Fowler is an agile, atheletic, fast, edge rusher. I'm sure Fowler would see plenty of defensive snaps. And Fowler could be groomed as a future replacement for Chris Long.

I'm sorry Ramsey Id have to argue any point on us making a trade remotely close to this for a LB that is anything less than a Lawerece Taylor type of talent. We use a Sam LB hardly any ( Dunbar barely seen the field last year) because of our 3 safety scheme we run. Not only that but we now have Ayers, j Lau, ogle tree and Dunbar. With us 75% running 2 LB's who is this new LB going to beat out to play in those two spots and even if he does is his upgrade of play even warrant that high a pick? The answer would be no. I'd have to say no.

 

[Ramhusker]

I don't believe it but if it were to be true I'd think the Rams would be trying to leap frog the Giants for Brandon Scherff. I'd hate the move though because you'd be giving up a proven DL and picking someone that might be there at 10 anyways and probably will be other OL just as good still on the board. Makes not much sense.

 

[Corbin]

Honestly I think if this runour has any truth to it it's not this deal. The Rams giving up Brockers to move up 3 slots. You shitting me? There would have to be more to this trade to benefit us to even be thesible.

If nothing else think about this. When has Snisher made a horrible trade that f'd things up for us? Hasn't happened yet, so I wouldn't panic tbh. Sneads not dumb shit Shaw.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

nobody is saying he is untouchable - only objecting to giving away Brockers to move up 4 spots
If we get something equal or greater in return I am all for it
But to trade Brockers for the CHANCE to draft White or Cooper is silly
- there has to be something more to this rumor that greatly benefits the Rams for this to be remotely true

Maybe the it is a cap move. The Rams may not feel that Brockers is worth what he will get on the open market after his fifth year. Maybe they think they can do better or just as good with a mid round pick. That guy would be cheaper and they have Fairley in the mean time to help fill the void. They have a lot of players to resign in the next few years.

I for one don't think Brockers was some kind of stud at his position. I know his job in Williams D was to eat up blocks. Maybe Shelton or some other big DT can do it better. Maybe the Rams are in love with Shelton? Maybe they want to be sure they can land White. Maybe they want to get closer to #2 to trade for Mariota.

I wont get upset until I know the whole story.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

If nothing else think about this. When had Snisher made a horrible trade that f'd things up for us?

Trading up for Tavon was not a good move.

Trading away the chance to draft Bobby Wagner was a crap move just to get back a 5th rounder.

 

[Corbin]

Trading up for Tavon was not a good move.

Trading away the chance to draft Bobby Wagner was a crap move just to get back a 5th rounder.

It was a good move and your using hindsight to justify saying it was a bad one. If we didn't have Shitenheimer refusing to use Tavon properly we wouldn't be having this conversation. Tavon hasn't failed us, the play calling has did.

 

[blackbart]

Pre-draft garbage sure getting a lot of play here. Haven't we seen enough over the last three years to know Snead is not going to make this move as advertised?

As for Fairly he is a Ram and should be getting more slack and a lot less hammering than is in this thread. He has some baggage but he is a Ram. Let's see what he does in StL before getting so much shit on ROD

 

[WestCoastRam]

I like Brockers but he's not an elite player. If we can use him to get an elite player in a bad draft, I'm interested in it. I can't see that his value fits "Brockers and a 3rd for number 7." If he was that good, we wouldn't be trading him. More likely, we'd have to trade Brokers and 10 for their number 7. We probably get some change back... like their 5th (which would interestingly give us a back a pick and let us have a pick in every round this year).

I'm hesitant about that but could warm to the idea.

Additionally, we only have Brockers for two more years unless we extend him and we have to extend a ton of people so this kind of trade could work on multiple levels.

 

[WestCoastRam]

Maybe the it is a cap move. The Rams may not feel that Brockers is worth what he will get on the open market after his fifth year. Maybe they think they can do better or just as good with a mid round pick. That guy would be cheaper and they have Fairley in the mean time to help fill the void. They have a lot of players to resign in the next few years.

I for one don't think Brockers was some kind of stud at his position. I know his job in Williams D was to eat up blocks. Maybe Shelton or some other big DT can do it better. Maybe the Rams are in love with Shelton? Maybe they want to be sure they can land White. Maybe they want to get closer to #2 to trade for Mariota.

I wont get upset until I know the whole story.

This.