Should Rams' Stedman Bailey be fined for his 'nap' celebration?

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To me the preconceived choreography seems like something a JV player does in front of the cheerleaders. It has always seemed odd to me that 21-35 yr old professional adults would plan out acts and dance moves for scoring. It's as silly to me as a non ZZ Top band doing tandem guitar moves. IMO of course.
 
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This was my reaction to the Rams tds last week.

Tavon's 2 tds - TOUCHDOWN!!!!!!!!!YEAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!huge claps.

Stedman's td - TOUCH.....wha...what happened? Did he drop it? Why isn't he celebrating? Why is he on the ground? Is he injured? Oh, it's a touchdown. Yay. Polite clapping.

I couldn't even get excited. That's why it was a bad celebration. Even some of his own teammates had to think a while before they realised it was a TD.

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A.J. Hicks said:
Sted was fined what something like 8,000 bucks for pretending to sleep using the ball as a pillow. . . Yet Odell only gets a 9,000 dollar fine for punching someone. . . ? Come on now? These two guys make a large difference in pay checks and that does not seems even close to fair. . . What?
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I don't think fines are based on a players salary, they are based on the action.

Beckham is lucky, he took a swing at a player, that is normally an ejection and a bigger fine. I saw the replay and the player that whacked him did go to his head and I can understand the frustration but it's often the guy who retaliates that get the flag and he should know that.
 

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NFL can review but this is the same group that blew the call in Seattle...what is the rule again?
Stedman needs a new celebration anyway...the sleep thing isn't good.
 
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Zaphod said:
He absolutely broke the rules with that act and honestly should get the fine. At first I thought he was just laying there clutching the ball stunned, and I was disappointed when they showed the replay, but too glad for the touchdown to care.

We're 2-2, not GSOT, and while I understand the need for a good celebration, I just don't think those antics have any place, especially when you're playing a division rival in a close game.
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I agree he should have known better. Act like you've been there before and plan on being back soon. Can we for once have a guy that is more like Walter Payton???
 
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$8681? Really? Where do they pull these fine amounts from? Is it tax deductible for Stedman? I'd claim it under some sort of sleep disorder. :yess:
 
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dhaab said:
I completely disagree. Using the ball as a prop is just a ridiculous overreaction to some celebration that the league thought was over the top. It's exactly the way the NFL changes their rules year after year.
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You do realize that the players union bears half of the blame for the injustice you feel. o_O
 
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Ramhusker said:
$8681? Really? Where do they pull these fine amounts from? Is it tax deductible for Stedman? I'd claim it under some sort of sleep disorder. :yess:
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Almost 100% positive fines are tax deductible since they go to various NFL charities
 
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RhodyRams said:
Almost 100% positive fines are tax deductible since they go to various NFL charities
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I would be a little surprised if that were true...Seems to me that it would dilute some of the wanted "punishment" effect of the fine...Of course I have no idea of that, just the way I would look at it...If the charity gets the money regardless, I wouldn't let them write it off...
 
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I have Stedman on snapchat (steddyb3). He posted a video today of him showing the cash for his fine. . . That's right 8,000 + bucks in hundred dollar bills. Wow!
 
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I would be a little surprised if that were true...Seems to me that it would dilute some of the wanted "punishment" effect of the fine...Of course I have no idea of that, just the way I would look at it...If the charity gets the money regardless, I wouldn't let them write it off...
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" Money collected in fines goes to support retired players and to various charitable causes as agreed upon by the NFL and the NFLPA"
http://www.thedailynewsonline.com/sports/article_dac659aa-cd4d-5cb6-998c-c8b626204411.html
 
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RhodyRams said:
" Money collected in fines goes to support retired players and to various charitable causes as agreed upon by the NFL and the NFLPA"
http://www.thedailynewsonline.com/sports/article_dac659aa-cd4d-5cb6-998c-c8b626204411.html
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Maybe my response wasn't posed real welL...I had no doubt about the charity aspect, just whether the players could use it as a tax write-off...They didn't donate anything, they pay a fine...That was my question...Of course I didn't read the posted article so it may have answered my question...Not an important issue at any rate (the tax part), I was just curious...
 
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Mikey Ram said:
Maybe my response wasn't posed real welL...I had no doubt about the charity aspect, just whether the players could use it as a tax write-off...They didn't donate anything, they pay a fine...That was my question...Of course I didn't read the posted article so it may have answered my question...Not an important issue at any rate (the tax part), I was just curious...
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What matters is that it was an on the field violation. That means it's likely deductible.

http://thefieldsofgreen.com/2014/05...ner-fines-are-tax-deductible-legal-loopholes/

Fines imposed by the team or league can generally be deducted from income.

According to Robert Raiola CPA, whose Twitter handle is fittingly @SportsTaxMan, these violations must be of team/league rules and not public law in order to be deductible. For example, if an athlete gets a speeding ticket on the way to practice, it is not deductible. But if an athlete is late to a team meeting and fined, that expense is deductible.

 
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RhodyRams said:
Almost 100% positive fines are tax deductible since they go to various NFL charities
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If you are late on your taxes, the fines are deductible as a payroll tax liability so yeah, I would guess that they are deductible.
 
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damn.. I just had to poke my head in this thread again cus I was curious how the hell it's managed to go on for 6 pages lol
 
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