NFL's Most Overhyped Stars: 2 ex-Rams

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Elmgrovegnome

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As to Jenkins IMO, those mistakes were overstated. His last year with the Rams, nobody beat him at all, he was amazing and a total shutdown and it carried over to the Giants as he was the best CB in football in 2016. Johnson is a true professional, but is not a shutdown corner. He's very good and is tall for a CB, which is a plus, but there were some close games (Dolphins 2016) where he was beaten often, but I never blamed him because the offense was so bad, also Jenkins is more durable than Johnson, but from the neck up Johnson is superior and a better teammate when the chips are down, however, if I had to chose one of them to totally shutdown a superior WR, I would take Jenkins and again JMHO.

Only in a contract year. Or first year with his new team. He just doesn't have the head or maybe the heart for me to pick him over Tru. He doesn't tackle as well, makes more mental mistakes and takes bad chances. He got caught looking into the backfield or trying to jump a route too often. Ill never forget Steve Smith making JJ look like a college freshman. The fact that he turned it on in his contract year is enough for me not to choose him over Tru.
 

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The fact that he turned it on in his contract year is enough for me not to choose him over Tru.

Well, you could have a point, but in those two years there was not a better pure cover corner and during Jenkins 2016 year being an all pro, early, I was watching Coty Sensabaugh prove that he could not cover a bed. Tru is a professional and I wish him the best with the Jets.
 

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Yes, Jimmy G is the definition of over hyped. Even if he is good, the hype machine is out of control. Goff sucked after 7 games and was a bust. JG after 7 games or 6 and half, is the second coming of Joe Montana. We will see.
Besides, Goff and Montana were both enumerated as 16. This means something Rams fans.
 

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I'm not sure why people are hating on Tru and JJ.
"Hate" is probably too strong a word. Janoris' final contract year left a bad taste in my mouth, as it had the feel of biding his time until becoming a FA so that he could leave. I blame the Rams for not offering a better contract to him, but it was also a case on Janoris' part of not recognizing the social framework Fisher provided him to care for his babies and the various "baby mommas" so that they would not be a distraction to him. The Rams gambled on him when they drafted him...None of that was remembered when he flicked the Rams into the trash bin when he thought he was going to a much better situation in New York. So yeah, I enjoyed his sucki-ness last year, because we were the metaphorical old girlfriend showing how hot she really was, while the hag he he left her for, was draped over his arm.
Rams 51 Giants 17.

PS...I believe Jenkins wasn't even playing in this game, which doesn't matter. I think he was not playing because he missed mandatory meeting/practices before the game...He's a risk, still...
 
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.... which means he's a douchebag.
I wouldn't say that an unmotivated player is a douchebag tbh - the Giants were a dumpster fire last year and many players were talking of the shocking attitude and coaching of them, I still believe with the correct mentoring and man-management that JJ could become an elite prospect at CB
 

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I wouldn't say that an unmotivated player is a douchebag tbh - the Giants were a dumpster fire last year and many players were talking of the shocking attitude and coaching of them, I still believe with the correct mentoring and man-management that JJ could become an elite prospect at CB

But given his discipline history with the Rams and now the Giants, it appears that he takes a lot of hand holding, too. Which is fine, but given the limited amount of time coaches have, is a negative for him. He wanted to be paid like he's elite, but only is elite when he feels like it? Red flag.
 

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I wouldn't say that an unmotivated player is a douchebag tbh - the Giants were a dumpster fire last year and many players were talking of the shocking attitude and coaching of them, I still believe with the correct mentoring and man-management that JJ could become an elite prospect at CB
Right.
OJSimpson proved that with the right coaching, mentoring, man-management, etc., that you can become an elite prospect.

You can either be part of the problem, (like Jenkins was with his attitude) or you can be part of the solution.

McVay would not put up with him in my opinion because he's building a T*E*A*M.

There's no "I" in team but there is an "I" in Jenkins.

I'm not a fan of such a self-centered jerk like "mrpik6sht".
 

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Right.
OJSimpson proved that with the right coaching, mentoring, man-management, etc., that you can become an elite prospect.

You can either be part of the problem, (like Jenkins was with his attitude) or you can be part of the solution.

McVay would not put up with him in my opinion because he's building a T*E*A*M.

There's no "I" in team but there is an "I" in Jenkins.

I'm not a fan of such a self-centered jerk like "mrpik6sht".

Thing is, a team can have self-centered jerks and still succeed. But especially with a young team, with a new coach, you never know how many the team can have before it becomes a huge problem. It might seem fine, then blow up at an inopportune time. Paying someone at the top of the pay scale, and having them potentially cause major problems is not a wise act of team building.
 

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I wouldn't say that an unmotivated player is a douchebag tbh - the Giants were a dumpster fire last year and many players were talking of the shocking attitude and coaching of them, I still believe with the correct mentoring and man-management that JJ could become an elite prospect at CB

Any player worth having on a team is going to give their best at all times, because he is a man, and he has integrity.

What you described was a self-fulfilling prophesy from a cancerous player.

I get that some coaches bring out the best in men, and some do not, and thankfully we have one of the best.

But the notion that coaches need to perform the right appeasement calisthenics in order to get a little prince to perform is crap.

Jenkins’ legacy, unless he grows up quickly, will be one of a talented child that never reached his potential because of his own petulance.

And I am glad he is gone.
 

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I totally agree with Quinn on this list. Yes he is bendy or at least he used to be. But other than that what are his specialties? I saw a one trick pony who was able to take that one trick pretty far until he got injured. He had one monster year and then a couple acceptable years and the rest is just not good enough.
 

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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...tkins-andy-reid-helping-me-become-complete-wr

Watkins: Andy Reid helping me become complete WR
By Herbie Teope

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Wide receiver Sammy Watkins' acclimation process has gone well since joining the Kansas City Chiefson a three-year, $48 million free-agent deal in March.

Despite being on a new team, Watkins turned heads during organized team activities and he embraces the opportunity to absorb coach Andy Reid's offensive scheme.

"This offense is the broadest offense I've ever been in," Watkins told reporters on the last day of OTAs, via the Chiefs' official website. "It's definitely a mental challenge, but I think that's what kind of gets me up every day to study the plays and come out here encouraged because anybody can get the ball and I've got to learn all the positions.

"I just can't learn one position. I have to be focused and tuned in, in meetings. You have to do that off-the-field work and stay in your [play] book."

Watkins raises a good point when it comes to Reid's version of the West Coast offense.

Reid's offense typically spreads the ball around, which has contributed to just five wide receivers producing a 1,000-yard receiving effort in a single season between two teams since Reid became a head coach in 1999: Tyreek Hill(2017), Jeremy Maclin (2015), Terrell Owens (2004), Kevin Curtis (2007) and DeSean Jackson, who did it twice (2009-10).

Hill wasn't alone in 2017, as tight end Travis Kelce also topped the mark with 1,038 yards receiving.

With the 6-foot-1, 211-pound Watkins, who possesses 4.43 speed in the 40-yard dash, the Chiefs add another downfield threat and he produced 1,047 yards receiving while with the Buffalo Bills in 2015.

Watkins' production has slipped the past two seasons, but he spent the offseason workout program learning new responsibilities while under Reid's close eye.

"He's helped me in this short amount of time with just being a compete receiver, not just being a, 'Oh, he just runs go-routes,'" Watkins told reporters. "I've got to learn the whole route tree. My standard that he wants, he's called me out in meetings, which that's what you need as a player, and I take full advantage of all those things."

While the offseason workouts are accomplished without pads and no-contact practices, the early returns on Watkins are positive.

"We were moving him everywhere," Reid told reporters on the final day of minicamp two weeks ago, via the team's official website. "He hasn't had to do that in his career; we had him all over the place. I thought he handled it very well."

Should Watkins continue his progression throughout training camp, the Chiefs' offense will give opposing defense plenty to think about in 2018.

Watkins, Hill, Kelce and second-year running back Kareem Hunt are a more than capable set of weapons for quarterback Patrick Mahomes.
 

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Still funny that fluke season Kevin Curtis had 1,000 yards for Philly. He was a good #3, but 1,000 yards was just all the stars aligning for him.
 

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Watkins, after being traded to the Rams, once boasted that he would have the McVay playbook down “in a couple of weeks”.

Never really happened even 5 months thereafter.

Color me skeptical about Watkins quickly mastering Reid’s system. I have the greatest respect for Andy Reid, but is he really that much better of a teacher than McVay?
 

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I totally agree with Quinn on this list. Yes he is bendy or at least he used to be. But other than that what are his specialties? I saw a one trick pony who was able to take that one trick pretty far until he got injured. He had one monster year and then a couple acceptable years and the rest is just not good enough.

OT - just took a good look at your avatar.
Pretty funny.:cheers:
 

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Don't agree with Watkins and Quinn on this list.

Watkins is gone because of FA, money and salary cap. Otherwise, he'd probably still be a Ram. He's bounced between 3 teams, but not because of performance.

Quinn. Well, whose overhyping Quinn right now? I haven't heard any unreasonable expectations for him. No one's expecting 20 sacks from him next season, are they?

I don't really like this writer's choices, or his definition of overhyped. Overhyped is more like the current 49ers team...lol
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