NFL's Most Overhyped Stars: 2 ex-Rams

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Question: Can you be overhyped and still be referred to as a star?
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2779644-nfls-most-overhyped-stars#slide0

NFL's Most Overhyped Stars
BRENT SOBLESKI


Perception and reality often differ regarding star NFL players. Reputations develop even if they're no longer representative of on-field performance and overall skill set. Some stay hyped; others become overhyped.

Lesser-known players can be disappointments, but they're rarely placed on pedestals. Instead, it's those living on name recognition while not producing on the field who fall into the overhyped category.

The natural order takes care of itself on the field even if those on the outside are slow to adjust. Only the best maintain and exceed expectations. The majority experience ups and downs. Original impressions rarely change, though.

It's difficult to admit a once-great veteran or high draft pick isn't as good as believed. As coaches are fond of saying, "The eye in the sky doesn't lie"—and performance is the only thing that matters.

A few of the league's supposed brightest stars aren't what they seem.

WR Sammy Watkins, Kansas City Chiefs

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Sammy Watkins is on his third team in less than a year, yet expectations continue to grow. Usually, a player who moves around so much is considered a disappointment. Watkins has walked into three different situations with more heaped upon his shoulders with each subsequent stop.

The Buffalo Bills spent the fourth overall pick in the 2014 draft to select the wide receiver and then traded him to the Los Angeles Rams in August. He was supposed to blossom into an elite No. 1 target in L.A., but he didn't re-sign with the Rams, instead choosing the Kansas City Chiefs in free agency.

The Chiefs signed Watkins to a surprising three-year, $48 million deal even though he's eclipsed 1,000 yards once in four seasons. The investment is built upon the 24-year-old's long-term potential.

"It's just a great feeling because I'm not just sitting at the X-receiver spot on the backside looking at two-man or a double," Watkins said of his transition to Kansas City's offense, per BJ Kissel of the Chiefs' official site.

"I'm really playing against a slot [cornerback] and getting an advantage on the linebackers, getting an advantage on the safety, and those are the things that I didn't have access to [in the past], and now I do."

Even so, Watkins is no better than the Chiefs' third option behind Travis Kelce and Tyreek Hill.

DE Robert Quinn, Miami Dolphins

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Robert Quinn is arguably the NFL's most fluid and natural pass-rusher when he's healthy.

"He bends like nobody I've ever seen," Miami Dolphins defensive coordinator Matt Burke said, per the South Florida Sun-Sentinel's Omar Kelly. "He has rare bendability."

The Dolphins acquired the 28-year-old veteran from the Los Angeles Rams for a 2018 fourth-round draft pick and sixth-round pick swap.

Quinn registered 40 sacks between 2012 and '14 and earned a pair of Pro Bowl berths. But his production during the subsequent campaigns is far less impressive. The 2011 first-round pick recorded 17.5 sacks the last three seasons. The Rams found him expendable since his contract still carried a combined $24.4 million cap hit between this and next year, according to Spotrac.

Some of Quinn's effectiveness has been robbed by injuries. The defensive end needed back surgery two years ago, and he hasn't played a full season since 2014 campaign. The Rams managed his practice time, which allowed Quinn to bounce back to a degree.

The edge defender didn't fit in the Rams' defensive scheme, either, and he should be more comfortable playing in Miami's four-man front. Although, reps must be parceled between a talented group of edge-rushers that features Quinn, Cameron Wake, Andre Branch, William Hayes and last year's first-round pick, Charles Harris.

An injury history, significant price tag and limited reps blunt Quinn's overall impact.
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I honestly see Quinn as progressing back to where he once was, apparently he’s not a fit with the Rams scheme

Not sure he deserves “overhyped”

As for SW, there seemed to be something missing, not sure he ever fully recovered after being concussed? in SF
 

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What about Janoris Jenkins? Dude was a dumpsterfire last year...
 

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Robert Quinn isnt overhyped lol.
When he was healthy he was the most dangerous 4-3 pass rusher in the league.
Kinda hard to overhype that.

Shit, might as well add JJ Watt. He sucked the last couple years too.
And Andrew Luck... what a fraud lol..
 

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Don't agree with Watkins and Quinn on this list.

Watkins is gone because of FA, money and salary cap. Otherwise, he'd probably still be a Ram. He's bounced between 3 teams, but not because of performance.

Quinn. Well, whose overhyping Quinn right now? I haven't heard any unreasonable expectations for him. No one's expecting 20 sacks from him next season, are they?

I don't really like this writer's choices, or his definition of overhyped. Overhyped is more like the current 49ers team...lol
 

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I'm not sure why people are hating on Tru and JJ.
 

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I'm not sure why people are hating on Tru and JJ.

Jenkins still one of the best pure cover corners in the league and TruJo was good for the Rams and I wish the Rams were able to extend Jenkins, but if they are able to extend Peters, then I can live with that.
 
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I'm a sucker for those type of articles .... Congrats to the writer for having a job, and having access to some household names ... hopefully the guy learns something about football.
 

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Jenkins still one of the best pure cover corners in the league and TruJo was good for the Rams and I wish the Rams were able to extend Jenkins, but if they are able to extend Peters, then I can live with that.

Jenkins' admitted loss of focus during games will forever lower his talent level in the eyes of many Rams fans. He made some bad mistakes that helped lose close games.

Tru on the other hand......I will always be a fan. I recently watched the Rams/Colts game. Tru was a beast in that game...and many others.
 

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"It's just a great feeling because I'm not just sitting at the X-receiver spot on the backside looking at two-man or a double," Watkins said of his transition to Kansas City's offense, per BJ Kissel of the Chiefs' official site.

"I'm really playing against a slot [cornerback] and getting an advantage on the linebackers, getting an advantage on the safety, and those are the things that I didn't have access to [in the past], and now I do."

This will be interesting to watch. Sammy had some nice plays going over the middle. Seemed to get 15-20 yards a pass on those slants. Chiefs better hope this works out as they paid a lot for future production.
 

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Probably not on the overrated list... but I am glad Prescott, Winston, or Tannehill are not our starting QB.

I think there is a bit of overrated vibe to them.
 

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Overhyped or overpaid or both?

I would take JJ back for what he is getting paid too bad Rams couldn't resign him. The Giants were a nightmare last year.

TruJo is overpaid as cornerback that is just outside the top ten but, inside the top twenty. He doesn't get the praise others do so I don't think he is really overhyped.

Quinn isn't overhyped. Let's see how he does as a Fin in their 4-3 defense. He could live up to the money he is getting.

Watkins is overpaid and overhyped based on past production. He is only 24 so he could starting his prime years. It will be interesting to see how he fits in the slot.
 
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Jenkins' admitted loss of focus during games will forever lower his talent level in the eyes of many Rams fans. He made some bad mistakes that helped lose close games.

Tru on the other hand......I will always be a fan. I recently watched the Rams/Colts game. Tru was a beast in that game...and many others.

As to Jenkins IMO, those mistakes were overstated. His last year with the Rams, nobody beat him at all, he was amazing and a total shutdown and it carried over to the Giants as he was the best CB in football in 2016. Johnson is a true professional, but is not a shutdown corner. He's very good and is tall for a CB, which is a plus, but there were some close games (Dolphins 2016) where he was beaten often, but I never blamed him because the offense was so bad, also Jenkins is more durable than Johnson, but from the neck up Johnson is superior and a better teammate when the chips are down, however, if I had to chose one of them to totally shutdown a superior WR, I would take Jenkins and again JMHO.
 

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Don't agree with Watkins and Quinn on this list.

Watkins is gone because of FA, money and salary cap. Otherwise, he'd probably still be a Ram. He's bounced between 3 teams, but not because of performance.

Quinn. Well, whose overhyping Quinn right now? I haven't heard any unreasonable expectations for him. No one's expecting 20 sacks from him next season, are they?

I don't really like this writer's choices, or his definition of overhyped. Overhyped is more like the current 49ers team...lol
Yes, Jimmy G is the definition of over hyped. Even if he is good, the hype machine is out of control. Goff sucked after 7 games and was a bust. JG after 7 games or 6 and half, is the second coming of Joe Montana. We will see.
 

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Well. It kinda depends on how one defines “overrated”, I guess.

Overpaid vs production is one way.

Underwhelming production vs draft status and expectations?

And when both occur?

My recent Ram list, and in no particular order...

Tavon Austin
Robert Quinn post injuries
Alec Ogletree
Trumaine Johnson (strictly because of the ridiculous tag salaries for 2 seasons)
Sammy Watkins (because he missed the boat on both criteria)

I give JJ a complete pass as an overrated player because he didn’t fail at either criteria)
 

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Overhyped or overpaid or both?

I would take JJ back for what he is getting paid too bad Rams couldn't resign him. The Giants were a nightmare last year.

TruJo is overpaid as cornerback that is just outside the top ten but, inside the top twenty. He doesn't get the praise others do so I don't think he is really overhyped.

Quinn isn't overhyped. Let's see how he does as a Fin in their 4-3 defense. He could live up to the money he is getting.

Watkins is overpaid and overhyped based on past production. He is only 24 so he could starting his prime years. It will be interesting to see how he fits in the slot.

Jenkins: had a few lapses early, but by the time he left, you just knew he was entering his prime and was a future pro bowler. His contract doesn't look so bad now! The g-men were a nightmare last season, but he's still pretty good and I too, would've taken him back in a heartbeat if the Rams didn't sign Peters.

TJohnson: you're right. He's WAY overpaid, but he's a pretty good football player. The Rams messed up the whole Jenkins/Johnson thing and that lead to an inflated salary for tjohnson.

Quinn: agree again. Wrong defense for him last year. He actually started playing well down the stretch. I think the Rams would have kept him for half price. The back injury held him back for a while. We'll see how he does this year.

Watkins: don't understand how maligned he is by some on here. This is not an offense designed to have a true, dominant #1 WR. Watkins did his part in the area that has been the problem area for McV throughout--the red zone. I think Watkins was underused, but he still managed to lead the teams in TDs--and those matter!
...but he's not, no Ram WR, is worth $16mil/per.