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Greg Robinson - Rams Top Pick?

Discussion in 'RAMS - NFL TALK' started by paceram, Mar 1, 2014.

  1. A55VA6 Shutdown Corner

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    Robinson has future pro bowl tackle potential, but like I said, with Long and Barksdale right now, I'd start him out at guard. Worked well for
    Jonathan Ogden and the Ravens.
     
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  2. Mojo Ram On double secret probation

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    One year at Guard to open running lanes for Stacy...and then slide out to either LT or RT is a solid plan. I'd rather grab in in a trade down,however.
     
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  3. Elmgrovegnome Well-Known Member

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    Similiar to Jason Smith. Robinson MAY be able to develop as a pass protector, and he may not. That is why I want Matthews. I think inevitably Robinson ends up as a ORT. I would like them both though, just like Jerry said. Matthews at OLT Robinson at ORG and Jake Long at ORT. Now that is an instantly upgraded OLine. Resign Saffold and then Fisher can run on ANYONE.
     
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  4. CGI_Ram Hamburger Connoisseur

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    I like the bloodlines of Mathews.

    May not have the Robinson ceiling, but an all-pro for the next 15 years.
     
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  5. BonifayRam Well-Known Member

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    Its in the family genes...Saffold is a powerful tank now its always been hard for him to keep his nearly 6-5 frame down in the 310 to 315 range. After loosing his OLT post to Jake...Rodger thinking he could put on some pounds @ ORT cut it loose in the off season in the weight room and when photos of the OL appeared early in training camp Rodger was thick real thick...so thick that his head well looked like it belonged on a WR.

    Boudreau knowing how strong and massive Rodger has gotten inserted him into the OG post asap when Harvey got hurt. Well Harvey was never seen again &...Rodger....just destroyed & blew up interior DL's from his OG post!
     
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  6. BonifayRam Well-Known Member

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    Matthews is OT ready now GR is not. JM could play all five OL post NOW! GR could do maybe two....this season anyway. If there is no trade down and Jake Long is still an Unknown with Barksdale a UFA in a year....Jake Matthews brings more to the Ram team now! He is the better player now. If Jake Long is able to play OLT Matthews becomes our starting OLG and our swing OT when season starts. I have questions if Robinson could be a swing OT or play on the Right side. If GR was drafted & Jake Long was able to play OLT then GR is our starting OLG day one. Mot much difference.

    If Fisher continues with a run and run and run maybe pass then GR would be a perfect fit if Fisher wants to become more balanced & use some of the weapons he has sitting on the sideline on offense then Jake Matthews is far the better choice. With Sam Bradford in the mix of thought ...Jake Matthews is more Sam friendly player.
     
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  7. fearsomefour Well-Known Member

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    I think Robinson, Clowney, Watkins, Mack and three of the QBs are making up the top 7, Matthews could fall to 8 or may instead of Robinson as he is more complete.
     
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  8. jjab360 Well-Known Member

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    More like Larry Allen who only started two years at a Division II college, Walter Jones who also only started two years in college, or Jason Peters, who was actually a TE in college. Those guys are of the same physical skillset that Robinson has, it's a much better comparison. I've said it before but there is no physical comparison between Smith and Robinson, it's not even close.
     
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  9. DR RAM Rams Lifer

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    I was having a really hard time finding anyone like him, he is bigger than Allen, and Allen was a guard, of course, but brute strength, and good feet, and his ability to absolutely dominate the run game in his conference, known for good defensive lineman. To me, he is a freak. Allen is a good comparison, as far as him destroying guys on the line, unlike I've ever hardly seen. He looks like he'd be a dominant defensive lineman, if he switched sides, he'd collapse the pocket every time. I'm not suggesting he should do that, just that he could.
     
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  10. Elmgrovegnome Well-Known Member

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    Jason Smith was a TE coming into college and had quick feet and supposedly was a good run and pass blocker. Thing is he was in a spread, so didnt have to hold blocks long, and also was relatively new to the position. His comparison is just as fair as the Larry Allen one since nobody has seen Robinson in the NFL yet. And you ignored the rest of what I said btw.
     
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  11. jjab360 Well-Known Member

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    Larry Allen: 6-3, 325 lbs, 4.85 40
    Walter Jones: 6-5, 325 lbs, 4.70 40
    Jason Peters: 6-5, 328 lbs, 4.93 40
    Greg Robinson: 6-5, 332 lbs, 4.92 40
    Jason Smith: 6-5, 309 lbs, 5.09 40

    The first four guys are all in the same class of athletes, massive guys who are light on their feet and able to translate initial quickness into massive power. You have these guys at the top of the athletic foodchain and then somewhere along the road you have guys like Jason Smith who, sure, are quick and fast for their size when compared to the average college football player, but when put beside the first four guys, it's not even a comparison worth mentioning. As athletes, it's as ridiculous as comparing Glenn Dorsey to Dontari Poe or Roy Williams to Calvin Johnson.
     
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  12. mr.stlouis Well-Known Member

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    I'd be good with Robinson AND one of them OG's, actually. We'd be the new Niners in the running department. No, we'll be better!!!

    If we don't get Watkins then we shouldn't draft a WR.
     
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  13. DR RAM Rams Lifer

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    On the NFL site, it says 5.22 40, with 24" vert and 96" broad jump. http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/jason-smith?id=71471
    Greg Robinson: http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/profiles/greg-robinson?id=2543458 4.92, 28 1/2 vert, and an amazing 113" broad jump.

    Besides all that, because Lewan even tested better, it's the tape that impresses me, and the competition he went against every game in his conference.

    In Jason Smith's defense, try to find one scouting report that said he was going to be a bust, but I didn't like his tape. In that draft I had Monroe rated over him. I read scouting reports that said he'd be a 10 year player, an All Pro by his second year, etc. It's not an exact science, or nobody would ever miss. I can see no comparison between Robinson, and Smith. Not just now, but when I watched both players prior to the draft.
     
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  14. jjab360 Well-Known Member

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    It's not even that Robinson's numbers are way more impressive, it's that Robinson's numbers are way more impressive despite having 30 pounds on the guy. That's why I don't think Lewan tested better, either. If two WRs run a 4.3 but one guy weighs in at 200 lbs, and the other guy at 230 lbs, can you honestly say that the smaller WR was more impressive? No way.
     
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    If we pick up Robinson and is Safford gone?
     
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  16. jjab360 Well-Known Member

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    I think there's room for both on this team, in fact I think that's probably the best case scenario for our O-line.
     
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    On the contrary, Saffold would still be priority #1. It just Means rams probably won't resign Barksdale. Long would move to RT in 2015 and Robinson would slide to LT.
     
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  18. blackbart Well-Known Member

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    I hate the idea of picking someone because of their potential upside whatever the heck that is, and who knows who might have more of it than another player?????o_Oo_O Especially if there is another player that all of these same experts agree is more ready to play in the league right now and will likely be probowl material for at least the next 10 years.

    Matthews > Robinson right now by all accounts and no one this side of God knows who will be better over their career.
     
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  19. jjab360 Well-Known Member

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    Projection is a part of any talent evaluator's job. Every draft pick is a gamble, and if you're confident enough in your evaluation, why not go for the jackpot? If you're not confident in your ability to project a player's skillset into the next level, then you probably won't be working in the NFL for very long.
     
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  20. mr.stlouis Well-Known Member

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    The decision on Saffold happens next week. Saffold has a better chance on effecting the Robinson pick.
     
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