Would you rather have Bennett sitting on the bench developing into your long term starter or Allar sitting and developing? Assume they are both rookies. Which would you want here in that situation?
Which QB should the Rams draft next year and where?
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Warts in college compared to warts in the NFL is night and day different.
We see this every year, there's a ton of third tier prospects who are just hoping to get drafted. Last year it Sanders, McCord, Howard, Ewers etc. That's more like the comparison, not a guy who'd been given up on but a guy hoping for a shot despite all his flaws
Neither. Folks need to stop throwing Bennett's name out there like he's some sort of option. He isnt.
My point there is Bennett was a 4th rd pick. I think Allar would be a better investment as a 4th rd pick. Thats all. It's for those saying Allar should only be a 7th rd guy.
Tell me what you liked about Allar, not wearing shorty pants, but the games he actually played in?
The Rams dont have a 4th round pick
Another bad comp though in any event. Drafts are fluid, when the Rams drafted Bennett, they werent looking for an heir apparent for Stafford, they were looking for a Wolford type backup guy. Any QB they draft this or next year is somebody they can see taking the reigns at some point
Big kid, great arm, some mobility. I remember him looking very good for most of 24', throwing to Warren. Maybe I didn't watch him enough, but at that time I was hoping the Rams would get a shot at him.
Point stands. If Bennett can get drafted in rd 4, no reason why a team wouldn't think Allar wasn't worth a 4th rd pick.
And I didn't say the Rams had a 4th rd pick...at least at this point. That could change on draft day. Draft picks do change hands you know.
Yesterday in this thread, someone said the Rams should pick Allar at 29. That’s where it started.
I said performance wise, Allar is a 7th round pick/ UDFA; but physical/size wise he’s a top talent.
I guess combining the two (performance & size), he’s maybe a 5-6th round flier.
I will just put it this way, I heard about how good plus the upside of Drew Allar and every time I watched him play and he had 35 career starts, so I probably watched him over ten times I always felt he was the type of QB that would break your heart.
He would make some great throws, but then relapse and miss the easy ones, then when all was on the line, throw into tight coverage, which resulted in a turnover. Also Allar seem to shrink in big games. Against Notre Dame in the CFP is an excellent example. 12-23 for 135 yards and the interception, cost his team the game. Just needed to throw it away and the game goes into overtime, but Allar threw into double coverage, which resulted in a pick.
Now could he improve under McVay, Ragone & the rest of the cast? Absolutely, but I never lost any sleep at night, when my Buckeyes were playing Penn State and Drew Allar was their QB.
I'll give @PhillyRam that there's a ton of subjectivity when it comes to evaluating QBs. Outliers do happen because you can't measure heart. Also we don't get to interview these boys. It is possible Allar is not as dumb as he looks. And it only takes one team to believe in a QB to take him off that board.
But the physically gifted but dull witted QB type just seems like the most un-McVay option among the QBs. So the only way we would draft Allar would be if the Rams think he was underutilized by Franklin and his clown car of offensive staff. And again I can't stand Franklin, but I have a hard time thinking Allar isn't part of the problem.
I just keep going back to how his mechanics look. Contrast that to let's say Mendoza, who diligently worked to fix his areas of deficiency in getting the ball out, or accuracy. Allar just stagnated. So I hope we stay far away.
But the physically gifted but dull witted QB type just seems like the most un-McVay option among the QBs. So the only way we would draft Allar would be if the Rams think he was underutilized by Franklin and his clown car of offensive staff. And again I can't stand Franklin, but I have a hard time thinking Allar isn't part of the problem.
I just keep going back to how his mechanics look. Contrast that to let's say Mendoza, who diligently worked to fix his areas of deficiency in getting the ball out, or accuracy. Allar just stagnated. So I hope we stay far away.
Good Lord, all of you are way too hard on Stetson Fleming Bennett IV, way too hard!
More importantly, he wouldnt even look at a WR, all of his passes went to RB or TE. ND had a decent defense but by no means was it so great that it confused players. Will Howard absolutely shredded them in the next game
I just think it's odd that some of you will insist that someone's take is dumb or that they don't know how things work when virtually none of you get picks correct aside for maybe one or two on occasion. I realize several of you really watch a lot of tape and look at a lot of information but I'm going to go out on a limb and say that NONE of you truly know how it works for each of these teams when it comes to making draft decisions. It makes little sense to me that you would be so confident that you would call an opinion on a player absurd, or dumb, or that what they are suggesting has no chance of happening. The investment in an opinion is striking.
As far as Alar goes, my OPINION is that he could easily be taken earlier than some would suggest if a team takes a flyer on his physical traits. Also, he could easily be sitting there waiting for a phone call after the draft has concluded due to his flaws. If I'm going to guess, I think he goes mid to late in the draft but does get drafted. I don't like him for us, but if we take him, I'm going to assume McSnead see enough that they like to think they can make something of him.
As far as Alar goes, my OPINION is that he could easily be taken earlier than some would suggest if a team takes a flyer on his physical traits. Also, he could easily be sitting there waiting for a phone call after the draft has concluded due to his flaws. If I'm going to guess, I think he goes mid to late in the draft but does get drafted. I don't like him for us, but if we take him, I'm going to assume McSnead see enough that they like to think they can make something of him.