What happened to our Draft
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Even with a few bad plays Higbee isn't close to replacing Kendricks or Harkey.
Thomas has been good on ST and might develop in another year or two. Cooper seems to be stronger and has a chance to replace Marquis.
Who was it that originally drafted Britt?
Thomas has been good on ST and might develop in another year or two. Cooper seems to be stronger and has a chance to replace Marquis.
Who was it that originally drafted Britt?
Not expecting much out of rookie WRs and TEs from a production standpoint. Especially with Fisher running this team. I like the draft picks Fisher and Snead picked, it's just an issue with his inability to scheme offensive players to succeed.
For comparison, look at Ogletree, 6'3, 245 lbs....Not sure what size Kendricks is, or even Harkey, but those TE's are significantly more stout. If he's gonna be running 5-10 yard stop patterns, he needs to be prepared for the hits that come from running routes in front of safeties, that will be bearing down on him at full speed.
My hope is that TA can be close to a Steve Smith 2.0. TA has the talk, his mouth never stops, needs to work on the hands but I think he has the desire or drive to be as good as he wants.
Tavon won't be Steve Smith. He simply isn't that type of player. I think our best case scenario with him is DeSean Jackson or T.Y. Hilton.
Higbee is 6'6" 250lbs. Gronk is 6'6" 265lbs. Jimmy Graham is 6'7" 260lbs. Travis Kelce is 6'5" 260lbs. Tyler Eifert is 6'6", 250lbs. Zach Ertz is 6'5" 250lbs. etc etc
Higbee has NFL size, and he'll only develop the strength as time goes on. He's fine. How he's being utilized, however...
Yeah - they ARE 6-6, with wins over the mighty Browns, Jags and Bears.:jerkoff:
He does have NFL height...but he's playing at a WR-type weight & frame. And the type of patterns he runs, the hits he's taking...I'm actually glad he ISN'T targeted more. He used to be a wr....he still looks like a big one.
fearsomefour
Legend
Higbee is getting reps.
I agree, they need to let him attack the seem.
Rookie WR usually take time to develop.....read coverages, hot reads ect.
Defenses now are changing coverages up to or after the snap, it takes time.
I agree, they need to let him attack the seem.
Rookie WR usually take time to develop.....read coverages, hot reads ect.
Defenses now are changing coverages up to or after the snap, it takes time.
I just gave you several examples of pro-bowl level tight ends, not wide receivers, with similar physical stats to Higbee. The only WR I can think of with a body type comparable to those above is Kelvin Benjamin, who's close at 6'5" 240.
Higbee has the size you want in a TE. He just hasn't seen the field or otherwise, hasn't been utilized properly. I'd love to see him used in a Gronk role... but Gronk is an above average blocker.
People make the mistake of associating listed weights with actual weights. Teams don't update weights for most players. Thus, a lot of guys weights are from their rookie year or the Combine. It's much more likely that Higbee is around 250 than the other guys are.
I think it would do Higbee some good to bulk up a bit. I think 6'6" 260-265 would be a nice playing weight for him.
shaunpinney
Hall of Fame
Seeing as we went all in on Goff I think our picks were rather tasty - I honestly think Cooper, Spruce, Thomas and Higbee could have a place on this team - we just need to sort out our offensive scheme first - something's not "clicking" at the moment - I'm hoping that Goff settles his feet now and we see some sort of creativity coming from the Rams. I'm really happy with Britt's production to have 788 yards on our offense is fantastic - I'm urging him to go over 1000yards this year - now that IS something to smile about.
He's literally the same build as Tyler Eifert, one of the best pass-catching TEs in the game.
You can have the same built, but physically be nothing alike...Eifert seems to run more routes that are like receiver...And Tyler was ALWAYS a better pro prospect. And Tyler, with the similar build, is always injured.
Yeah, you did...Of the pro-bowlers you listed, do any have a problem with drops? Any missed games with injuries like Eifert above?
Again, he's probably got the 2nd highest ceiling of all our drafted rookies. But coming from a small school, he's not physically able to perform as a TE on this level. Not yet.
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maybe because his (Tyler E's as opposed to THiggs) team offensive plan requires him to run routes like a receiver rather a three yard out or a 3 yard pattern into the flat or a 4 yard hook ....as long as he doesnt go past the first down marker routes that Fish and Co like them to run
That's my point UK...he's built like a large wr, yet we have him blocking a bunch, and running patterns for LARGE TEs....The type of routes that will usually lead to a loud collision with a safety or LB....and do we really want Higbee doing that in his first year?
Yeah, you want the best out of a guy like Higbee, you want him running seam routes and hitting him with full steam ahead behind the LBs but in front of the safeties. A nice, loud collision between a 250-pound tight end and a safety is usually gonna work out pretty well for the TE.