Watched the "forward progress play" again on goal line

[Ellard80]

MOTHERFUCKING IDIOTS

I won't post the video here... because I don't want people to share in my fury.

The Refs had no fucking clue. Verse had stripped the ball waaaaaaay before they had ruled anything or blew any whistle. like a good 2 seconds before.


It was so bad.

Clueless fuckheads.

 

[CGI_Ram]

 

[Soul Surfer]

If it was the home team who had picked up that ball and started running, all five refs, including the ones holding the first down sticks would have ran down field with him with their arms up in the air to signal touchdown.

 

[Steve808]

Didn't the same thing happen in the whiners game? Quick whistle cost the Rams their first lead of the game by blowing the ball dead, even though they are supposedly told to let plays go on because they can be fixed by replay? The kickoff fumble that the Rams returned for a TD.

 

[kurtfaulk]

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Let's all watch that beautiful goal line stand.

And that ridiculous whistle while Andrews was still trying to move forwards. He wasn't going backwards, that's for sure.



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[kurtfaulk]

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BTW, on 4th down Henry took the wrong option. When the two options are running forwards into Reeder or running sideways into verse, the obvious choice is to keep running forwards over Reeder.

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[pvtdragon39]

Didn't the same thing happen in the whiners game? Quick whistle cost the Rams their first lead of the game by blowing the ball dead, even though they are supposedly told to let plays go on because they can be fixed by replay? The kickoff fumble that the Rams returned for a TD.

its happend at least 4 of 6 games now that I can remember! Every time we get a turnover, they fuck us!

 

[Merlin]

When it happened I wanted Verse to keep running. If the player runs that fumble all the way down to score, then it is easier to admit your initial take was wrong and change it in the event NY weighs in or McVay throws his flag or whatever. Also it gives the refs time to look at each other with that confused look they often have and figure out if they fucked up.

Whereas if he stops and spikes it in frustration like Verse did, you can't really admit fault because where would you place the ball. That would make them look stupid.

So generally speaking if you scoop what you think is a live ball run that thing the other way. It's kind of like firing off if you're on the OL and the defender crosses into the neutral zone.

 

[Steve808]

When it happened I wanted Verse to keep running. If the player runs that fumble all the way down to score, then it is easier to admit your initial take was wrong and change it in the event NY weighs in or McVay throws his flag or whatever. Also it gives the refs time to look at each other with that confused look they often have and figure out if they fucked up.

Whereas if he stops and spikes it in frustration like Verse did, you can't really admit fault because where would you place the ball. That would make them look stupid.

So generally speaking if you scoop what you think is a live ball run that thing the other way. It's kind of like firing off if you're on the OL and the defender crosses into the neutral zone.

I can nearly guarantee that if a Ram's linebacker had punched CMC in the head on his way to the end zone and he fumbled, it would have been a personal foul with 1st and goal on the half yard line. Of course, if our kicking game was competent, we would have kneeled down and kicked a 19 yard FG to win the game.

 

[kurtfaulk]

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I'm confused. Can a play called dead be challenged by a team? That's the 2nd time the Rams have been screwed by this in the last 3 games.

That can be the only reason Mcvay isn't throwing the red flag.

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[Steve808]

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I'm confused. Can a play called dead be challenged by a team? That's the 2nd time the Rams have been screwed by this in the last 3 games.

That can be the only reason Mcvay isn't throwing the red flag.

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No, once a play is blown dead or called down by contact, it's not reviewable. That's why the officials are supposed to "let stuff happen" because turnovers are automatically reviewed.

 

[fanotodd]

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BTW, on 4th down Henry took the wrong option. When the two options are running forwards into Reeder or running sideways into verse, the obvious choice is to keep running forwards over Reeder.

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Can’t argue that logic, but I think Verse “set him up” to bounce outside. He initially bull rushed two blockers and forced them towards the inside, causing henry to bounce outside. Once Verse planted his left foot while shoving the blockers inside, he immediately changed direction and looked to cover the edge.
“Gotcha!” Henry was caught.

 

[fanotodd]

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I'm confused. Can a play called dead be challenged by a team? That's the 2nd time the Rams have been screwed by this in the last 3 games.

That can be the only reason Mcvay isn't throwing the red flag.

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I believe the play could have been changed had Verse (upon review) secured the ball prior to the whistle being blown.
Because it WAS blown, there would have been no advancement of the football. The best the Rams could have done there was be awarded the ball at the 1.

 

[dieterbrock]

Cant review when the whistle was blown

 

[JonRam99]

Hey in the game day thread, it was mentioned that the "refs" threw a flag on one of our players for an infraction that rarely, if ever, gets called. Anyone have a vid or screenshot of that? what was it, exactly?

 

[Psycho_X]

It was ridiculous... I'm willing to bet if the QB makes a surge forward and crosses the goal line instead of getting stripped at that moment they would have called touchdown. NFL games are completely ran on ref judgement calls any more and it's tiresome and sucks the fun out of a lot of them.

 

[dieterbrock]

Hey in the game day thread, it was mentioned that the "refs" threw a flag on one of our players for an infraction that rarely, if ever, gets called. Anyone have a vid or screenshot of that? what was it, exactly?

They called illegal man down field during a Rams punt that the Baltimore player fumbled. When they showed the replay and explained the penalty, it was clear he left way too early. So he was definitely guilty, but not sure if that penalty is ever called.
Apparently, he wasnt allowed to head up field until the ball had been kicked.
To make matters worse, on the re-kick Baltimore almost took it to the house and had a 30-40 yard return

 

[Tumak61]

What I saw was the side judges running to spot a split second before Verse stripped it, as well as the back Judges coming up. No whistle was heard but the refs considered it dead at that point.

 

[fearsomefour]

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I'm confused. Can a play called dead be challenged by a team? That's the 2nd time the Rams have been screwed by this in the last 3 games.

That can be the only reason Mcvay isn't throwing the red flag.

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Once its dead its dead....
I went to a college game once, similar sort of play on a QB sneak. Ball clearly popped out, in this case like bouncing on the ground, a couple of refs didn't see it. A defender picked the ball up and started returning the ball. From their 25 or so yard like to about midfield.
So, on the side of the field where the defender picked up the fumble and was returning it the refs was running down field watching the play.
On the other side, the ref was still focused on the QB sneak, not seeing the fumble. He blew the play dead as the action at the line had stopped.
The awarded the ball to the defensive but spotted the ball about where he was in his return when the whistle blew. The 48 yard line or so. It was a sure TD.
So it goes I guess....

 

[majrleaged]

That was Dolac and his blocking took him about 5 yards then he just took off. He was about 10 yards down field when the ball was kicked.
Our ST are really fucking things up. First couple of games looked good, then the Eagles and everything seems to be getting worse. There is a penalty on every return almost. I hope they don't cost us the London game. Then maybe they can hyper focus in the bye week and fix it.