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by Seth Cox
There are times when I read the mass amounts of information that are shared with me and just shake my head.
This is one of them.
Last week, I posted about Mike Sando of ESPN picking the Cardinals as the team that got measurably worse in the 2017 offseason, of course he did a really nice job of hedging that saying he could see them winning more games this season.
Well, the NFL Insiders at ESPN have added another topic, this time non playoff teams from 2016 who will make the 2017 NFL Playoffs.
For those unaware, the Arizona Cardinals were not a playoff team in 2016, so they seemed like a good candidate for this... Nope, two writers did pick another NFC West team though: Dan Graziano and Aaron Schatz each picked the Los Angeles Rams, yes those Rams, to make the 2017 field.
From Graziano:
I like the Los Angeles Rams. Coordinator Wade Phillips' impact on the defense and head coach Sean McVay's intelligence and energy will be enough to vault them to their first winning season since 2003. Also helping their case: The Cardinals are due for a downturn and Seattle's ship looked a little leaky last year. Obviously, there's some concern about how Jared Goff meshes with the new coaching staff and learns a whole new system. But I'll give that staff and running back Todd Gurley the benefit of the doubt. Don't underestimate the impact of veteran left tackle Andrew Whitworth on the offensive line, either.
From Schatz:
I'm driving the Rams bandwagon this year. OK, I guess it's more of a minivan, but more folks should be hopping aboard once they realize Phillips' phenomenal record of improving defenses in his first year as coordinator. (I wrote about that in detail here.) The offense isn't going to be good, but there's no way it will be as bad as last year. The 2016 Rams had the fourth-worst offense in the history of our DVOA stats, which stretches all the way back to 1987. The other teams in the bottom dozen improved by an average of three wins the next year, and three of those teams had winning records.
Look, I get that the Fisher to McVay move is a plus automatically, especially with Wade Phillips coming over, but Jared Goff is making that big of a jump?
I guess the additions on the offensive line help drive this idea, but this is crazy to me.
Year one of a new regime?
I guess it worked for the Arizona Cardinals.
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THERE ARE 16 COMMENTS.
Hmmm...
"The Cardinals are due for a downturn …But I’ll give [the Rams coaching] staff and running back Todd Gurley the benefit of the doubt."
I guess somehow they deserve "the benefit of the doubt" and the Bruce "3 double-digit wins in 4 seasons" Arians regime doesn’t.
You get Pro Bowls from the top of the draft. You get Super Bowls from the rest of the draft.
Posted by BirdgangRising on Jun 1, 2017 | 5:06 PM
Oh, and Schatz?
"The other teams in the bottom dozen improved by an average of three wins the next year"
Someone needs to tell him that a three win improvement makes them 7-9.
You get Pro Bowls from the top of the draft. You get Super Bowls from the rest of the draft.
Posted by BirdgangRising on Jun 1, 2017 | 5:09 PM
Maybe the theory is they get the average bump to 7-9, then on top of that you add Phillips, Whitworth, and a bounceback from Gurley?
It still seems like a bad prediction though.
I'm a veteran, and I support Kaepernick's protest.
Posted by Wade8813 on Jun 1, 2017 | 5:26 PM
We have heard this about the rams for the past 5 years
"Watch out for the rams this season, this is the year they’ll take the next step" Look, the Cardinals do best when given no respect at all. Let’s not be mad but secretly happy this is happening again. Want more proof? Last off season my father predicted an 8-8 season and I laughed in his face and look like a dope now. His prediction this season is 11-5 or 12-4. Here’s hoping he’s right again
I TAKE THIS SH*T SERIOUSLY!
Posted by Redbird Nation #1 on Jun 1, 2017 | 5:22 PM
old guys are wise
2017 Cardinals- "The best revenge is massive success" - The Chairman of the Board
Posted by risky business on Jun 1, 2017 | 5:54 PM
if Lambs make it to playoffs
i will Schatz myself
sorry dont see it
2017 Cardinals- "The best revenge is massive success" - The Chairman of the Board
Posted by risky business on Jun 1, 2017 | 5:56 PM
I could see them hanging around in the wildcard race
IF:
Their D makes that improvement
Gurley regains his rookie form
The O Line holds up
Most importantly, Goff shows he can actually play NFL football…
I don’t see all those things happening in 2017, especially Goff. I doubt he ever turns into anything good.
Posted by Spikedriver on Jun 1, 2017 | 6:04 PM
Like being dismissed,
The national press is focused on their favorites, They are still thinking the Cards are Bill’s old team and style of play.. They are not giving the team of Michael and BASK any respect… OK, it is not about what they think but how we do on the field. We have often given the press more credit than they give the Cards….
Posted by Cards will rise up on Jun 1, 2017 | 6:07 PM
This projection by ESPN may explain why their ratings are down.
I mean – why should anyone pay to listen to these idiots.
Posted by rjwil35 on Jun 1, 2017 | 6:58 PM
Is this what we are ranting about today?
The draft is about the future, not a SB run this year
Posted by Gungus on Jun 1, 2017 | 7:44 PM
Kroenke doesn't own playoff teams
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - Don't even know what it means but it sure is cute
Posted by TakeFive on Jun 1, 2017 | 9:02 PM
Largest markets?
Most ridiculous press.
Posted by Jra805 on Jun 1, 2017 | 10:07 PM
Wait, people still go to ESPN for serious content?
Posted by Redbird Thunder on Jun 1, 2017 | 10:11 PM
Only the Lemmings.
Pass and you have an exciting offense that scores. Pound the ball down their throats in the 4th quarter and you win.
Posted by Riggodrill on Jun 2, 2017 | 6:18 AM
I will say this.
I won’t judge any quarterback in his rookie year. I don’t care how bad he played, it’s forgiven and year two should show a very marked improvement. I also have money that defense finally plays to the level of it’s talent. Wade Philipps is a defensive wizard and he’s proven it so many times you’d be a fool to think their D won’t be very tough. Rank teams in the NFC West by their level of improvement.
1. Gotta be 49’rs-New staff, by all accounts solid. Great draft. Big jump up cuz how could they possibly not.
2. Rams. Getting rid of Fisher and getting Wade a huge plus. New start for everyone in LA. They picked up some offensive weapons in the draft for Goff. McVay loves to use the tight end ( listening BA?), which we coincidentally suck at defending.
3. Us? Remains to be seen in my opinion. If our first two picks show up and both JB’s come back 100%, we vault up.
4. Seaturds. They’ve been great for years and thats tough to sustain. I don’t see a big improvement. Ok draft, kinda wait and see. I think Wilson is in for a long year. I love that guy but he has won a lot of games due to his ability to buy time with his legs. He finally started taking some hits and I suspect that will continue this year.
Pass and you have an exciting offense that scores. Pound the ball down their throats in the 4th quarter and you win.
Posted by Riggodrill on Jun 2, 2017 | 6:44 AM
If the Cards don't make the playoffs..
I can honestly say I don’t care who in the NFCW does..
Posted by Ditship on Jun 2, 2017 | 7:43 AM
by Seth Cox
There are times when I read the mass amounts of information that are shared with me and just shake my head.
This is one of them.
Last week, I posted about Mike Sando of ESPN picking the Cardinals as the team that got measurably worse in the 2017 offseason, of course he did a really nice job of hedging that saying he could see them winning more games this season.
Well, the NFL Insiders at ESPN have added another topic, this time non playoff teams from 2016 who will make the 2017 NFL Playoffs.
For those unaware, the Arizona Cardinals were not a playoff team in 2016, so they seemed like a good candidate for this... Nope, two writers did pick another NFC West team though: Dan Graziano and Aaron Schatz each picked the Los Angeles Rams, yes those Rams, to make the 2017 field.
From Graziano:
I like the Los Angeles Rams. Coordinator Wade Phillips' impact on the defense and head coach Sean McVay's intelligence and energy will be enough to vault them to their first winning season since 2003. Also helping their case: The Cardinals are due for a downturn and Seattle's ship looked a little leaky last year. Obviously, there's some concern about how Jared Goff meshes with the new coaching staff and learns a whole new system. But I'll give that staff and running back Todd Gurley the benefit of the doubt. Don't underestimate the impact of veteran left tackle Andrew Whitworth on the offensive line, either.
From Schatz:
I'm driving the Rams bandwagon this year. OK, I guess it's more of a minivan, but more folks should be hopping aboard once they realize Phillips' phenomenal record of improving defenses in his first year as coordinator. (I wrote about that in detail here.) The offense isn't going to be good, but there's no way it will be as bad as last year. The 2016 Rams had the fourth-worst offense in the history of our DVOA stats, which stretches all the way back to 1987. The other teams in the bottom dozen improved by an average of three wins the next year, and three of those teams had winning records.
Look, I get that the Fisher to McVay move is a plus automatically, especially with Wade Phillips coming over, but Jared Goff is making that big of a jump?
I guess the additions on the offensive line help drive this idea, but this is crazy to me.
Year one of a new regime?
I guess it worked for the Arizona Cardinals.
*********************************************************************************
THERE ARE 16 COMMENTS.
Hmmm...
"The Cardinals are due for a downturn …But I’ll give [the Rams coaching] staff and running back Todd Gurley the benefit of the doubt."
I guess somehow they deserve "the benefit of the doubt" and the Bruce "3 double-digit wins in 4 seasons" Arians regime doesn’t.
You get Pro Bowls from the top of the draft. You get Super Bowls from the rest of the draft.
Posted by BirdgangRising on Jun 1, 2017 | 5:06 PM
Oh, and Schatz?
"The other teams in the bottom dozen improved by an average of three wins the next year"
Someone needs to tell him that a three win improvement makes them 7-9.
You get Pro Bowls from the top of the draft. You get Super Bowls from the rest of the draft.
Posted by BirdgangRising on Jun 1, 2017 | 5:09 PM
Maybe the theory is they get the average bump to 7-9, then on top of that you add Phillips, Whitworth, and a bounceback from Gurley?
It still seems like a bad prediction though.
I'm a veteran, and I support Kaepernick's protest.
Posted by Wade8813 on Jun 1, 2017 | 5:26 PM
We have heard this about the rams for the past 5 years
"Watch out for the rams this season, this is the year they’ll take the next step" Look, the Cardinals do best when given no respect at all. Let’s not be mad but secretly happy this is happening again. Want more proof? Last off season my father predicted an 8-8 season and I laughed in his face and look like a dope now. His prediction this season is 11-5 or 12-4. Here’s hoping he’s right again
I TAKE THIS SH*T SERIOUSLY!
Posted by Redbird Nation #1 on Jun 1, 2017 | 5:22 PM
old guys are wise
2017 Cardinals- "The best revenge is massive success" - The Chairman of the Board
Posted by risky business on Jun 1, 2017 | 5:54 PM
if Lambs make it to playoffs
i will Schatz myself
sorry dont see it
2017 Cardinals- "The best revenge is massive success" - The Chairman of the Board
Posted by risky business on Jun 1, 2017 | 5:56 PM
I could see them hanging around in the wildcard race
IF:
Their D makes that improvement
Gurley regains his rookie form
The O Line holds up
Most importantly, Goff shows he can actually play NFL football…
I don’t see all those things happening in 2017, especially Goff. I doubt he ever turns into anything good.
Posted by Spikedriver on Jun 1, 2017 | 6:04 PM
Like being dismissed,
The national press is focused on their favorites, They are still thinking the Cards are Bill’s old team and style of play.. They are not giving the team of Michael and BASK any respect… OK, it is not about what they think but how we do on the field. We have often given the press more credit than they give the Cards….
Posted by Cards will rise up on Jun 1, 2017 | 6:07 PM
This projection by ESPN may explain why their ratings are down.
I mean – why should anyone pay to listen to these idiots.
Posted by rjwil35 on Jun 1, 2017 | 6:58 PM
Is this what we are ranting about today?
The draft is about the future, not a SB run this year
Posted by Gungus on Jun 1, 2017 | 7:44 PM
Kroenke doesn't own playoff teams
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - Don't even know what it means but it sure is cute
Posted by TakeFive on Jun 1, 2017 | 9:02 PM
Largest markets?
Most ridiculous press.
Posted by Jra805 on Jun 1, 2017 | 10:07 PM
Wait, people still go to ESPN for serious content?
Posted by Redbird Thunder on Jun 1, 2017 | 10:11 PM
Only the Lemmings.
Pass and you have an exciting offense that scores. Pound the ball down their throats in the 4th quarter and you win.
Posted by Riggodrill on Jun 2, 2017 | 6:18 AM
I will say this.
I won’t judge any quarterback in his rookie year. I don’t care how bad he played, it’s forgiven and year two should show a very marked improvement. I also have money that defense finally plays to the level of it’s talent. Wade Philipps is a defensive wizard and he’s proven it so many times you’d be a fool to think their D won’t be very tough. Rank teams in the NFC West by their level of improvement.
1. Gotta be 49’rs-New staff, by all accounts solid. Great draft. Big jump up cuz how could they possibly not.
2. Rams. Getting rid of Fisher and getting Wade a huge plus. New start for everyone in LA. They picked up some offensive weapons in the draft for Goff. McVay loves to use the tight end ( listening BA?), which we coincidentally suck at defending.
3. Us? Remains to be seen in my opinion. If our first two picks show up and both JB’s come back 100%, we vault up.
4. Seaturds. They’ve been great for years and thats tough to sustain. I don’t see a big improvement. Ok draft, kinda wait and see. I think Wilson is in for a long year. I love that guy but he has won a lot of games due to his ability to buy time with his legs. He finally started taking some hits and I suspect that will continue this year.
Pass and you have an exciting offense that scores. Pound the ball down their throats in the 4th quarter and you win.
Posted by Riggodrill on Jun 2, 2017 | 6:44 AM
If the Cards don't make the playoffs..
I can honestly say I don’t care who in the NFCW does..
Posted by Ditship on Jun 2, 2017 | 7:43 AM