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WestCoastRam said:
PFT makes good point, strange that Sorsby hasn't filed paperwork for an injunction yet. If it doesn't come by Friday. Prob not coming.

Would not be shocked if there's been info floated as to what kind of punishment he'll receive if he gets in from either teams or front office both deterring him from accepting that punishment as it stands now and understanding that teams may not want to draft him that high.

Take the year, keep nose clean. Look to get drafted next year. Can gets kicked down road for everyone.
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Agreed. Go to QB camps, do whatever you need to do to stay in shape and possibly improve, keep your nose clean, and don't be a Maurice Clarett and accrue a bunch of legal fees on a losing case.
 
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dieterbrock said:
The "at will" comparison is irrelevant. Sorsby isnt an employee and was not eligible for the NFL draft held earlier in the year.
Now the league has the option to hold the additional draft if they feel justified. They dont find it justified with his case.
Frankly, I dont see how anyone would be defending Sorsby at this point
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It was just an allusion to how if the NFL said nothing beyond no supplemental draft, no prob, but they DID and by doing so, very well may have opened them up to litigation.

Not defending Sorsby at all…I did a little but mostly that was defending Rose, not Sorsby.

Many are saying this is a slam dunk. I’m just saying that even if it’s a layup, it’s not a slam dunk and guys miss layups all the time.

And let’s not act like the NFL hasn’t snatched defeat from the jaws of victory in legal contests before…
 
Mackeyser said:
It was just an allusion to how if the NFL said nothing beyond no supplemental draft, no prob, but they DID and by doing so, very well may have opened them up to litigation.

Not defending Sorsby at all…I did a little but mostly that was defending Rose, not Sorsby.

Many are saying this is a slam dunk. I’m just saying that even if it’s a layup, it’s not a slam dunk and guys miss layups all the time.

And let’s not act like the NFL hasn’t snatched defeat from the jaws of victory in legal contests before…
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I just dont see where the NFL did anything wrong, in fact I applaud the stance they took.
If he wants to sue, have at it.
If he does choose to sue, he had better win big because no team in their right mind should/would touch him then
 
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NFL "any of you 32 teams interested in taking Sorsby in a supplemental draft?" ............. crickets

NFL "Do to a lack of interest there will be no supplemental draft this year."
 
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That’s how it should have been.

But if the law were about ‘should’, the world would be a VERY different place.

I’m talking more process than values because the values are debatable, especially with the NFL investing in gambling so heavily.

It’s not what the NFL did, but HOW that *may* get them in trouble.

HOW the NFL did this has opened the door. Pretty sure the attorney who has worked for them isn’t just wasting his time as he’s already immensely successful as a high profile attorney and there are few people on the planet that knows both sides of the argument better.

We’ll see. Depends on the judge they get and how open they are to the initial arguments.
 
I guess the CFL is a meanie too now. Lol

All of this is why I said he wouldn’t get drafted nearly as high as expected. This guy is toxic. He needs time away to rebuild his reputation and character. Find some league or somewhere to play in the meantime.
 
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Mackeyser said:
That’s how it should have been.

But if the law were about ‘should’, the world would be a VERY different place.

I’m talking more process than values because the values are debatable, especially with the NFL investing in gambling so heavily.

It’s not what the NFL did, but HOW that *may* get them in trouble.

HOW the NFL did this has opened the door. Pretty sure the attorney who has worked for them isn’t just wasting his time as he’s already immensely successful as a high profile attorney and there are few people on the planet that knows both sides of the argument better.

We’ll see. Depends on the judge they get and how open they are to the initial arguments.
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You’re dying on a bizarre hill. There is no legal implication, Sorsby isn’t an employee of the NFL. They are choosing to not make an exception for him. Can he sue? Sure, and they would probably settle just to avoid going thru the process. And that would be the end of his career. They still wouldn’t have broken any law
 
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Hasn't filed today... I think the chances are pretty low now.

Hard to ask for an emergency relief if you're not acting with speed.

But perhaps a lawyer can chime in.
 
dieterbrock said:
You’re dying on a bizarre hill. There is no legal implication, Sorsby isn’t an employee of the NFL. They are choosing to not make an exception for him. Can he sue? Sure, and they would probably settle just to avoid going thru the process. And that would be the end of his career. They still wouldn’t have broken any law
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It’s the AuDHD… I easily get lost in process and there’s not much else to talk about right now.

Also, every person on the planet is bound by the CBA. No one can just engage an NFL team in at-will employment.

Maybe it was all legal maneuvering, but my point stands: if the NFL had just said “no supplemental draft”, denied the application without reason as was their right to do, since they own the process, he’d have no standing or right to sue. Instead, they released things to the media directly and via proxies in the media which may have been a media strategy, but potentially gave him standing to sue.

From a process standpoint, it was so…Gooddell… and I know people seem okay with that because they don’t like Sorsby, but Gooddell for me is like the 9ers and I’ll never root for him.
 
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majrleaged said:
NFL "any of you 32 teams interested in taking Sorsby in a supplemental draft?" ............. crickets

NFL "Do to a lack of interest there will be no supplemental draft this year."
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.....and just in case....the CFL said "he ain't playing here either", despite him not showing any interest in them. I guess there's alway flag football leagues!!!!
 
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Ramstien said:
Well, most people from New York don't sound like they are from the USA.
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HitStick said:
It’s been awhile since the NFL has had a supplemental draft. It’s not an every year thing, and holding a draft for one player is kind weird
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It is weird.

Maybe they can just hold a draft via Zoom.
 
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Allen2McVay said:
Also reported that as part of this "settlement / agreement" between the NFL. NFLPA and Sorsby ... he will be eligible for the 2027 draft (that's nothing new) ... with no additional discipline for any prior conduct.
That last part is key for Sorsby and any teams that will be interested next April.
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NFL wanted him to have a year suspension. They got it.
 
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