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As usual Mike Foolio :poop: refuses to call the Redskins by their team name lest it offend anyone. :mrburns:

His article is first, followed by excerpts from the NY Times article which you can access by clicking the link above the article.
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...heerleaders-story-gets-coverage-on-today-gma/

Washington cheerleaders story gets coverage on Today, GMA
Posted by Mike Foolio on May 3, 2018

The NFL has kept a low profile in the aftermath of Wednesday’s report from the New York Timesregarding a Costa Rican excursion gone extremely bizarre for Washington’s cheerleaders in 2013. The NFL may not be able to keep a low profile much longer.

The story is getting noticed. Via SportsBusiness Daily, both NBC’s Today and ABC’s Good Morning America covered it on Thursday. ABC’s George Stephanopoulos called the allegations “blockbusters.”

Mainstream, early-morning news coverage has become the unofficial litmus test for whether an NFL controversy will go away quickly and quietly or whether it will have staying power. This one isn’t going to be regarded as an aberration or a blip on the radar screen. And as it gets more attention, more cheerleaders who have experienced inappropriate behavior with NFL teams or elsewhere will feel empowered to speak out.

Of course, certain inauthentic charlatans hoping to cater to a certain mindset will argue loudly that the Times and/or others in the media hope to eventually end cheerleading. This predictable effort to preach to a very specific choir overlooks the basic reality that, if misconduct or abuse is happening, it needs to be identified and rectified.

The NFL has not yet responded to an email sent Wednesday by PFT regarding whether the Personal Conduct Policy applies to any of the allegations contained in the story published by the Times. That’s not surprising; one way to keep a story from becoming a story is to not acknowledge the story.

Now that it’s a story, however, the NFL can’t afford to sit back and let others control the narrative. The NFL also can’t afford to create a perception that players who potentially engage in improper behavior are treated one way, and that teams/owners who engage in improper behavior are treated another way.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/05/02/sports/redskins-cheerleaders-nfl.html

Redskins Cheerleaders Describe Topless Photo Shoots and an Uneasy Night Out
By Juliet Macur

When the Washington Redskins took their cheerleading squad to Costa Rica in 2013 for a calendar photo shoot, the first cause for concern among the cheerleaders came when Redskins officials collected their passports upon arrival at the resort, depriving them of their official identification.

For the photo shoot, at the adults-only Occidental Grand Papagayo resort on Culebra Bay, some of the cheerleaders said they were required to be topless, though the photographs used for the calendar would not show nudity. Others wore nothing but body paint. Given the resort’s secluded setting, such revealing poses would not have been a concern for the women — except that the Redskins had invited spectators.

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A screen grab from the Redskins’ website, which had some images from the cheerleaders’ calendar photo shoot in 2013. Credit Redskins.com

A contingent of sponsors and FedExField suite holders — all men — were granted up-close access to the photo shoots.

One evening, at the end of a 14-hour day that included posing and dance practices, the squad’s director told nine of the 36 cheerleaders that their work was not done. They had a special assignment for the night. Some of the male sponsors had picked them to be personal escorts at a nightclub.

Their participation did not involve sex, the cheerleaders said, but they felt as if the arrangement amounted to “pimping us out.” What bothered them was their team director’s demand that they go as sex symbols to please male sponsors, which they did not believe should be a part of their job.

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The cheerleaders were not paid for the time they spent posing for the 2013 calendar.
Credit Daniel Swartz/Revamp.com


A spokesman for the N.F.L. said the league office “has no role in how the clubs which have cheerleaders utilize them.” He reiterated a statement the league has issued in response to previous news reports regarding the treatment of cheerleaders: “Our office will work with our clubs in sharing best practices and employment-related processes that will support club cheerleading squads within an appropriate and supportive workplace.”

Many Redskins cheerleaders understand the team’s approach — sex sells — and remain enthusiastic supporters of the team. They said they were troubled, however, when their safety was not taken seriously. There is no league-wide policy for security, or a union to protect them.

A recent contract for Redskins cheerleaders said off-the-field work would include “community and charitable events, youth camps, etc.” There was no mention of having to entertain men who financially support the team, and these appearances raised flags for some cheerleaders.
 

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I'm torn about this.........

I can believe that they were asked to go topless, which is FUCKED UP and if true should cost the Redskins fines/draft picks and some time in classes learning about right and wrong.

Taking a persons passport is creepy bad. Never in life should that happen.

But nobody took their tops off of them, they did, and they knew up front about the trip.

So while I think this whole thing is a fucking misogynistic disgusting mess they did play a role in it and cannot lay all of the blame on Snyder and his henchmen.

But for coming up with the idea AND executing it the Redskins should get whacked.

Another black eye for the NFL. And if this turns out to be true, likely it is, Goodell better act swiftly and with great vengeance.
 

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Absolutely disgusting behavior by the Redskins and Dan Snyder. I feel terrible for the cheerleaders.
 

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I'm torn about this.........

I can believe that they were asked to go topless, which is freaked UP and if true should cost the Redskins fines/draft picks and some time in classes learning about right and wrong.

Taking a persons passport is creepy bad. Never in life should that happen.

But nobody took their tops off of them, they did, and they knew up front about the trip.

So while I think this whole thing is a freaking misogynistic disgusting mess they did play a role in it and cannot lay all of the blame on Snyder and his henchmen.

But for coming up with the idea AND executing it the Redskins should get whacked.

Another black eye for the NFL. And if this turns out to be true, likely it is, Goodell better act swiftly and with great vengeance.

I don't think that's a good or fair distinction.
 

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Boobies are good
But
Confiscating passports?
Sounds like an episode of Locked Up Abroad
Are they cheerleaders or cocaine mules?
Holy crap
 

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I'm torn about this.........

I can believe that they were asked to go topless, which is freaked UP and if true should cost the Redskins fines/draft picks and some time in classes learning about right and wrong.

Taking a persons passport is creepy bad. Never in life should that happen.

But nobody took their tops off of them, they did, and they knew up front about the trip.

So while I think this whole thing is a freaking misogynistic disgusting mess they did play a role in it and cannot lay all of the blame on Snyder and his henchmen.

But for coming up with the idea AND executing it the Redskins should get whacked.

Another black eye for the NFL. And if this turns out to be true, likely it is, Goodell better act swiftly and with great vengeance.
come onnn. don't blame the girls. skins abused their power. just leave it at that. these girls need jobs.
 

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I don't think that's a good or fair distinction.

Certainly it is. They knew about the trip and in general knew about the events planned. Nobody made anyone do anything, and not one woman describing the trip has made any accusations that they were forced to do anything. They aren't claiming that they were abused they are claiming that they are being asked to do inappropriate or uncomfortable things and they want that to stop.

If they felt wronged they would already have an attorney involved.

come onnn. don't blame the girls. skins abused their power. just leave it at that. these girls need jobs.

The HUGE majority of the "wrong" in this case falls on the Redskins and Snyder. And a small minority gets shouldered by the women who agreed to be naked and body painted, topless or whatever else went on.

I hope that the Redskins and Snyder get both feet from Goodell and I like that this is humiliating and embarrassing for that fucking asshole POS of a human Snyder. But there is responsibility on both sides in degrees.

By the way, this isn't a job, they don't really get paid.
 

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I'm afraid I need more visual evidence before I can come to any conclusions...
 

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Cheerleaders aren't normally asked to go topless, but if they choose to be sex symbols, they are wading in a murky pool.
 

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Certainly it is. They knew about the trip and in general knew about the events planned. Nobody made anyone do anything, and not one woman describing the trip has made any accusations that they were forced to do anything.

If they felt wronged they would already have an attorney involved.

They felt wronged and brought it to the media. They don't want to get fired. They were certainly made to do it. What you're claiming is akin to claiming that the woman who had a sexual relationship with her boss because she was afraid he'd fire her if she didn't wasn't made to do anything.

Hell, you even admit that here:
They aren't claiming that they were abused they are claiming that they are being asked to do inappropriate or uncomfortable things and they want that to stop.

They were asked to do inappropriate things and complied because they felt that was what they had to do if they wanted to keep their jobs. Yea, nobody used physical force, but they still coerced them to do it.
 

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the first cause for concern among the cheerleaders came when Redskins officials collected their passports upon arrival at the resort, depriving them of their official identification.

I would like to know why they took their passports.

some of the cheerleaders said they were required to be topless, though the photographs used for the calendar would not show nudity. Others wore nothing but body paint. Given the resort’s secluded setting, such revealing poses would not have been a concern for the women — except that the Redskins had invited spectators.

That's not right. That's crossing the line. It should have been kept as private as possible.

One evening, at the end of a 14-hour day that included posing and dance practices, the squad’s director told nine of the 36 cheerleaders that their work was not done. They had a special assignment for the night. Some of the male sponsors had picked them to be personal escorts at a nightclub.

Their participation did not involve sex, the cheerleaders said, but they felt as if the arrangement amounted to “pimping us out.” What bothered them was their team director’s demand that they go as sex symbols to please male sponsors, which they did not believe should be a part of their job.

Another crossing the line. I'm on the side of the ladies. Did they have a choice? It seems like they weren't given much if any choice. The Skins abused their power to gain favor for high dollar customers.
 

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They felt wronged and brought it to the media. They don't want to get fired. They were certainly made to do it. What you're claiming is akin to claiming that the woman who had a sexual relationship with her boss because she was afraid he'd fire her if she didn't wasn't made to do anything.

Hell, you even admit that here:


They were asked to do inappropriate things and complied because they felt that was what they had to do if they wanted to keep their jobs. Yea, nobody used physical force, but they still coerced them to do it.


These cheerleaders make about $100 a game. Sorry, but if they were afraid to lose a job that pays that shitty, they are idiots. I dont think it has anything to do with being fired, they are calling the ownership out on being pigs. Nothing more nothing less.
 

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These cheerleaders make about $100 a game. Sorry, but if they were afraid to lose a job that pays that crappy, they are idiots. I dont think it has anything to do with being fired, they are calling the ownership out on being pigs. Nothing more nothing less.
They don't want to lose their job, even if they weren't getting paid.
It's an honor for these women to get one of these spots, its extremely competitive.
 
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