Rams and Quinn Sign Contract Extension

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Robert Quinn's deal good for both sides
By Nick Wagoner

http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/11632/robert-quinns-deal-good-move-for-both-sides

TAMPA, Fla. -- Throughout the offseason and into training camp, the St. Louis Rams seemed to be in no hurry to sign defensive end Robert Quinn to a contract extension.

There were no hard deadlines to meet and Quinn was going to remain under team control for at least the next two seasons no matter what.

A lack of urgency might have been the exact reason the two sides were able to come to terms on a new six-year contract Saturday afternoon, a deal that will keep Quinn in St. Louis through the 2019 season.

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The Rams and Robert Quinn, who had 19 sacks last season, agreed to a four-year contract extension.
Without having to worry about holdouts or franchise tags, the Rams and Quinn’s representatives were able work toward a resolution that would allow the team to keep its best player in St. Louis.

Upon reaching an agreement Saturday, the deal looks to be a good one for both sides. ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter reported it's worth a total of $66.575 million with $41.2 million guaranteed.

It’s important to note that the deal makes Quinn a Ram through the 2019 season, which means it includes the next two seasons as well. The distinction means the Rams could have a relative bargain on their hands should Quinn continue to ascend as one of the best pass-rushers in the league.

Assuming the numbers are correct, an annual average of about $11 million would be an absolute bargain for Quinn, considering he ranks second only to Houston's J.J. Watt in sacks with 29.5 since 2012.

After Watt agreed to a six-year, $100 million deal with $51.8 million guaranteed making him the highest paid defensive player in the league on Sept. 2, it was only logical Quinn would be next in line.

What wasn’t clear was how fast the Rams would put a deal together. On one hand, Watt’s deal offered a baseline for Quinn’s, but on the other, Quinn doesn’t have Watt's lengthy track record of success.

Getting a deal done now allows the Rams to sign Quinn for a number below what Watt received from the Texans, but offers a relative bargain should he continue to perform as he did in 2013 when he posted 19 sacks and seven forced fumbles on his way to first team All-Pro honors.

Had the Rams waited until after the season, they might have faced a price tag closer to Watt’s if Quinn duplicates his 2013 success. In signing Quinn now, the Rams struck a good balance between paying him what he is currently worth, what he could be worth in the future and protecting themselves on the off chance he doesn’t continue at his current trajectory.

For his part, Quinn landed a nice deal with a strong guarantee. That $41.2 million is really the only number that matters here, and it represents a smart play on his part, taking what he can get rather than worrying about it later should he suffer an injury or have a down season.

Put simply, Quinn is the Rams' only blue-chip talent and they were wise to get a deal done.

Only time will tell whether this is the rare deal that works well for both sides, and we still need to see the exact breakdown of the financials, but at first blush, it certainly looks like a win-win.
 

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Still no mention of a "Signing Bonus", is there one?
 

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That's his guaranteed money. I'm pretty sure that a signing bonus is something else and in addition to.
Oh, sorry. I guess we'll see pretty soon. Watt got 10 mil signing bonus. It will be inside the 41 mil though.
 

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That's his guaranteed money. I'm pretty sure that a signing bonus is something else and in addition to.

No. Guaranteed money includes the signing bonus - since it's guaranteed. There generally will be salary guaranteed in addition to the signing bonus though, so the signing bonus is less than $41.2 million.

I'm guessing/hoping that the signing bonus is $20 million or so, payable so it counts towards next year's cap and the 4 years after that. Then since in recent years guaranteed money figures have been misleading, I'm guessing that some of the guaranteed money is the $6 million he was already guaranteed for next year. Not that I'm that worried about guaranteed salaries for the first few years. The big thing is have some of the cap hit be in 2015, when the Rams should have plenty of cap room including the $3 million they're getting back from Finnegan.
 

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Silient Stan strikes again. He never gets enough credit on here. Fisher mentioned how his support helped get the deal done, but not a word would be spoken here if I didn't mention it. There's a lot of loyalty on this team and I like it a lot. I posted before that management seemed to be getting players for the long haul. This is my crowning moment of possibly being right for once in my life. Anyway, Stan is a Missouri guy and they aren't all bad. Just the guys named Jesse.
 

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Silient Stan strikes again. He never gets enough credit on here. Fisher mentioned how his support helped get the deal done, but not a word would be spoken here if I didn't mention it. There's a lot of loyalty on this team and I like it a lot. I posted before that management seemed to be getting players for the long haul. This is my crowning moment of possibly being right for once in my life. Anyway, Stan is a Missouri guy and they aren't all bad. Just the guys named Jesse.

I am with you, Rock.

It is easy to be pissed after last week. I was too. And... I am on pins and needles Sunday.

But, we have a plan and the right guys in control.

I don't know how this plays out time-wise, but there is no instruction manual for building an NFL juggernaut.
 

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Good Deal...now I can get a Quinn jersey knowing I could wear it at least 6 more years LOL
 

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I love me some more Bernie dances! Lol

I'm surprised I haven't seen any praise for Kevin Demoff.... The dude is amazing at what he does. He defiantly got us set for a long time with Quinn and our other players! He's getting to the point of being able to work everything to his discretion without having the old regimes haunting his financials or progress.
 

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/13/56-8-million-in-new-money-for-quinn/

$56.8 million in new money for Quinn
Posted by Mike Florio on September 13, 2014

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The six-year deal signed by Rams defensive end Robert Quinn reportedly pays a total of $66 million. Per a league source, the new money consists of $56.8 million; a healthy annual average of $14.2 million on the four new years.

Quinn also received $15 million at signing, with rolling guarantees that convert from injury-only to full guarantees. Once the full details of the deal are known, it’ll be clear how much of the $41 million is truly guaranteed as of today.

A top-20 pick in 2011, Quinn has become one of the best young defensive ends in the NFL. While J.J. Watt secured a much more lucrative deal from the Texans, Quinn will be eligible for another contract two years before Watt.
 

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/13/56-8-million-in-new-money-for-quinn/

$56.8 million in new money for Quinn
Posted by Mike Florio on September 13, 2014

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The six-year deal signed by Rams defensive end Robert Quinn reportedly pays a total of $66 million. Per a league source, the new money consists of $56.8 million; a healthy annual average of $14.2 million on the four new years.

Quinn also received $15 million at signing, with rolling guarantees that convert from injury-only to full guarantees. Once the full details of the deal are known, it’ll be clear how much of the $41 million is truly guaranteed as of today.

A top-20 pick in 2011, Quinn has become one of the best young defensive ends in the NFL. While J.J. Watt secured a much more lucrative deal from the Texans, Quinn will be eligible for another contract two years before Watt.
Sometimes I think they look for pictures that are begging for a caption on purpose.

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Quinn signs $65.5 million deal with Rams

• By Jim Thomas

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/foot...cle_a994e929-73f3-51fa-8bc9-cf52cd1af4a3.html

TAMPA, Fla. • Robert Quinn is sticking around for a while. On Saturday, the Rams signed the Pro Bowl defensive end to a four-year contract extension, which keeps him under contract through the 2019 season.

The overall value of the deal is $65.5 million, with $41.2 million in guaranteed money. That makes him the second-richest Rams player in terms of overall contract value and amount of guaranteed money. He trails only quarterback Sam Bradford, whose rookie contract as the first player chosen in the 2010 draft was worth $78 million — $50 million of which was guaranteed.

“We’ve been talking to Robert since about early spring,” said Kevin Demoff, the Rams’ executive vice president for football operations. “... We spent a lot of time over the summer. We got close at points, and really we tried to make a push before the season.”

That didn’t quite work, but the Rams and Quinn agents Tony Fleming and Mitch Frankel were close enough that they kept working to get something done. Quinn signed the deal Saturday before the team left Rams Park for Lambert Airport and the flight to Tampa.

“I thank the Rams and my agents for working together, trying to get something done,” Quinn said, at the team hotel in downtown Tampa. “Of course, I thank Mr. (Stan) Kroenke, the Rams’ organization, and my teammates, the fans, just for supporting me through the whole thing.

“It’s fun knowing where I’m gonna be at for the next six years of my life. And with a great head coach. We’re going in a great direction.”

That money is over a six-year period, because the 2014 and 2015 years of Quinn’s current deal were ripped up in the extension.

(Quinn was due $1.67 million this year under the last year of his original contract as a first-round pick in 2011, and $6.9 million in 2015 after the Rams exercised an option for a fifth year.)

Quinn led the NFC in sacks last year with 19, a franchise record since sacks became an official statistic in 1982. He was voted NFL defensive player of the year by the Pro Football Writers Association for 2013.

“He’s a tremendous player,” Demoff said. “He’s grown up every year since he’s been here and become a team leader. A pillar of the community. He’s the kind of player we want in our organization, and you want to reward.”

Considering what Quinn has done already, and the fact that he’s only 24 years old, the contract works for both parties. Quinn averages just under $11 million a year under the new deal, which isn’t exorbitant for a star defensive end these days. But he gets roughly two-thirds of that money — $41.2 million — as guaranteed dollars.

“It’s comforting to know my family’s taken care of,” Quinn said. “I can get that out of my head now and really play lights out with no worries. It’s kind of a weight lifted off my shoulder. ... I want to set up my son.”

That would be Robert Quinn Jr., who was born right when Quinn signed his first contract with the Rams out of college in 2011. As a result, Quinn showed up a day late for his first training camp. By the way, Robert Jr. wants to be a baseball player.