All three will be dressed on game-days.
In recent years, the NFL has allowed for "an emergency" 3rd QB to be in uniform, and not count against the game-day active limit.
That's why you saw both Garoppolo and Bennett in uniform on game-days.
Rams: (#13) 1st Round QB Ty Simpson SIGNED
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In recent years, the NFL has allowed for "an emergency" 3rd QB to be in uniform, and not count against the game-day active limit.
That's why you saw both Garoppolo and Bennett in uniform on game-days.
I wonder how many NFL QB would have made the throw to the slant WR?
I watched the play a number of times. Simpson was looking to the right side where the slant WR was. He may have planned to make that throw with no safety in the middle. It has to be a quick decision, with confidence, to throw to the spot where the WR would be. The more reps he gets the higher the probability he makes the throw. More reps with that WR would help with the timing and confidence. We will see how he progresses and his willingness to stay in the pocket as long as he can. He hasn't been perfect, but he has made good decisions overall. We don't know what the coaches asked of him in these games. They may have wanted him to avoid turnovers and limit risk.
One other comparison, when they were in school Simpson obtained his Graduate Degree well ahead of schedule. Bennett was in school for seven years with no degree plus some questionable decisions away from football.
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My guess for backup QB is that Mcvay would turn to Bennett first but he would definitely be on a short leash... maybe 1-2 games before going with Simpson.
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Oh this is interesting then. Sounds like they're gonna split scout team reps this year.
There will be almost no practice reps in our offense during the season but curious if those get split and how.
And performed like it. Working with rookies and practice squad guys put up 78.3% completion percent. 3 TDs and 0 interceptions. O sacks. Quick decisions and excellent accuracy.
First preseason.
I wasn’t a fan of the pick but highly impressed with his first preseason personally.
People get too hung up this 2 or 3 thing. Stafford is the clear #1, Simpson is the clear Heir Apparent
Exactly. It doesn't matter how you start. Stafford had a miserable rookie season and only completed 53% of his passes. Warner didn't even make it to training camp as a rookie, he wasn't even worth looking at as the 4th string guy. Bulger got waived by 2 different teams his rookie year before the Rams signed him. Jared Goff looked overwhelmed at times as a rookie. The Pats had such limited trust in Tom Brady going into his 2nd year that they signed a veteran QB with the expectation that he'd be the 2nd string guy, not Brady that season. If Brady had actually been the top pick in his draft class, I bet the media would have been questioning whether he was a bust at that point in his career. If you were the number 1 pick, why would you have to fight so hard just to secure the 2nd string job? Aaron Rodgers looked bad in the preseason of his rookie season. The Packers supposedly were interested in Vince Young in the 2006 draft, one year after they drafted ARod. I wonder what would have happened to ARod if they had been able to get Young. Could you imagine all the different dominoes that would have fallen?
It is a marathon, not a sprint.
It doesn't really matter in the big picture how good Simpson is right now. IMO, it is more just a "to do list" of areas where he could grow. Simpson has a high floor. He's not Will Levis. The open question in my mind is whether he'll become an elite QB and it will take several years before we have a firm grasp on the answer.
To my eyes, it looks like Simpson, as a floor, should be in the ballpark of Bo Nix/Brock Purdy. Nix went 12th overall to Ty's 13th while Purdy went end of 7th Round. Thats a floor, he obviously still has the chance he reaches his ceiling and can be even more dynamic than those guys.
On another note, guys like Nix/Purdy placed in a Sean McVay Rams Offense, with requisite weapons, are good enough to take us where we want to go. Which I think Simpson will.
I think that Bo Nix is much better than Ty Simpson, but Nix is 3 years older than Simpson. So, ask me again 3 years from now.
Yes. Please re-read. I SAID.....Simpson's floor, is he BECOMES...Bo Nix. Obviously, right now, Bo Nix is better than Ty Simpson.
You didnt think that I thought Simpson was Bo Nix level NOW did you???
Wait...the 13th pick in the 2026 draft isn't a rookie?
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oh, come on
I want the kid to do well - hope he does! - but even if we picked him to be a backup with a long development window, doing it at 13 is rich.
I expect superior physical talent at that slot and someone who was further along than just the ability to run boots, make the occasional dig throw but mostly throwing it within 7 yards of the LOS.
But in yours and others defense, JJ McCarthy was picked 10th.
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Look, I'm happy to have a reasonable discussion on him. He's done some nice things.
I think he should be further along than he is for where he was picked and have superior physical talent.
Hope he does well. He went to the perfect situation. He's certainly not ready to run an NFL offense right now.
We had the luxury of picking him at 13 but I do not think he's worth that amount of draft capital. And I concede that we probably would not have gotten him had we not picked him there or shortly thereafter (and it doesn't sound like we had offers to move down).
Simpson has one timeline where he becomes a top 15 QB. And this is it. Glad for him for that.*
*That's a lie. Payton could probably get him to top 15.
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This seems really generous to say his floor is these two. This kids floor is career backup after 2 years starting.
I do think he could be a slightly better Purdy. (He already is more athletic and has a slightly stronger arm).
Like perform as the best QB in the preseason, including the #1 pick? We're calling that "nice things"? Tough crowd.
We knew what his physical talent was when we drafted him. There's no surprise here.
He has superior mental processing talent, which IMO is the highest quality a QB should have.
How far along did you expect him to be? He had eight college starts. Besides the fact that the Rams always intended to bring him along slowly. It's possible he would be further along if they were trying to rush him. You said we could have a reasonable discussion, but so far, judging from your first two points, I'm not sensing you have reasonable expectations.
I disagree. He's not ready to carry an offense, but he could serve as a game manager QB now. Obviously, we want more for him, but the Rams would survive for a couple of games now if he were thrust into action.
This is the crux of your argument. I don't necessarily disagree. On one hand, 13 seemed a bit rich. On the other hand, if they think he has the ability to develop into a top-tier QB, 13 is a fine place to get him. Anything better than a top 15 QB warrants a top 10, maybe a top 5, pick. You like odds. Check the odds on that.
I disagree here, too. He has the potential to be better than a top 15 QB. I could see him having a career as good as Goff, who at his height, has been ranked by GMs and coaches as a top 8 QB. I'm also not buying the whole 'he has to go to McVay or Payton' thing.
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I believe that Simpson is more than what you describe, but perhaps that's the problem. Your expectations don't seem to match reality.
It would be hard pressed for the 13th selection in what was said to be a weak draft class at the top to produce what you desire. And that's at any position. In fact have you noticed that the early rave reviews of the most of the top 20 selections have been few and far between this year? Especially with the Makai Lemon selection most seem to have preferred for the team at the time.
BTW, other than McCarthy, here's a listing of the QBs selected between 10th - 15th for the past 25 years:
Bo Nix, Broncos
Justin Fields, Bears
Mac Jones, Patriots
Dwayne Haskins, Commodes
Josh Rosen, Cardinals
Patrick Mahomes, Chiefs
Desean Watson, Texans
Blaine Gabbert, Jaguars
Christian Ponders, Vikings
Matt Leinart, Cardinals
Jay Cutler, Broncos
Ben Roethlisberger
The player you appear to desire at QB in the 1st round usually comes off the board within the first two or three selections. Not at #13 in what was said to be a weaker blue chip draft class.
I generally agree with you. For his floor, the NFL comp I'd offer is the guy who is one of Ty Simpson's biggest supporters, Chase Daniel. In college, Daniel put up huge stats and was a good runner. He has a strong arm relative to his size. In the NFL, Daniel for several years was considered to be a potential starting candidate, but for a variety of reasons was stuck in a backup role, so was he was basically one of the better backups in the NFL. He only started 5 games his entire pro career. Daniel was an UDFA.
Could Simpson become a Pro Bowl QB? Yes, I think this is possible. But that doesn't necessarily mean he merited a 1st round pick. I would have tiered him on the same level as Jimmy Garoppolo coming out of Eastern Illinois. Jimmy G was drafted at the end of the 2nd round. When the Niners traded to get him from the Pats, it was with the intention that he'd be their franchise QB, he got a big contract from them and nearly won the SB with them. So, even with a relatively conservative estimate for Simpson, I think that it is possible for the Rams to win the SB with Simpson as the starting QB.
This is the first and maybe only true test of McVay's ability to groom a starting QB of his choosing. McVay didn't draft Cousins or Jared Goff. I don't count Bennett, because he was a middle round pick to get a backup QB. McVay hand-picked Simpson, so how Simpson turns out will be a key part of McVay's coaching legacy.