Pound the ball and pass short until they put 9 in the box, then let Tutu and Ferg streak down the field.
PASS, PASS, PASS!!!
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TuTu is an interesting thought.
I forget about that guy.... And he does have soft hands.
The motion is used to determine if in Man or Zone, and sometimes moved to get a TE or WR in to block.
But we give away the play when we bring the TE or WR in to block, I don't recall a play action ever when we do that.
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To me McVay does a very good job of masking the run....It just takes one missed assignment to blow it all to hell.
It's tough to dispute two RB's averaging 5 yards a carry.... So I say McVay should stick to what he's doing.
Mcvay interview the other day he said they are not changing game plans due to the weather, he did say they would be flexible if wind or snow.
I suspect we do try to run heavy in this game though. Especially with KDot coming back, the elements and Chicago’s run defense.
But the defensive personnel and alignment often dictates which play we actually run as does the elements.
I suspect we do try to run heavy in this game though. Especially with KDot coming back, the elements and Chicago’s run defense.
But the defensive personnel and alignment often dictates which play we actually run as does the elements.
So, from a game planning perspective, the best thing we can do is avoid third downs all together. That is the one area on defense the Bears are pretty good at, and we are pretty bad (relative to how good our offense is).
So what that means to me is, we mix run/pass on first and second down - but no 2nd and 10 runs. If we have a 2nd and long, we need to treat that like third down.
But we DO need to run the ball here....our 13 personnel should be a huge advantage for us in this game
So what that means to me is, we mix run/pass on first and second down - but no 2nd and 10 runs. If we have a 2nd and long, we need to treat that like third down.
But we DO need to run the ball here....our 13 personnel should be a huge advantage for us in this game
I would say Shanny is a coordinator who uses the run to open up the pass. Remove his run game and his offense shuts down.
McVay is the guy who uses the run to punish light boxes. He has never been dedicated to it and he won a title and almost another one without it.
There is nuance in all that of course. But he simply is not a guy whose goal every game is 30+ runs like Shanny. Because he is better at the pass game, and Shanny is better with the run game.
Anyway. I agree we have to run it in Chicago because otherwise they will drop 8 and limit our scoring. And this year's offense is the strongest run game we have had in years, so they will run it well vs the light boxes.
The key for the Rams is if they get a lead don't piss away downs by running into loaded boxes. Keep the heat on.
McVay is the guy who uses the run to punish light boxes. He has never been dedicated to it and he won a title and almost another one without it.
There is nuance in all that of course. But he simply is not a guy whose goal every game is 30+ runs like Shanny. Because he is better at the pass game, and Shanny is better with the run game.
Anyway. I agree we have to run it in Chicago because otherwise they will drop 8 and limit our scoring. And this year's offense is the strongest run game we have had in years, so they will run it well vs the light boxes.
The key for the Rams is if they get a lead don't piss away downs by running into loaded boxes. Keep the heat on.
The key is if the Rams can run it effectively when the defense knows it’s coming. It’s why those 3rd and short results have been ineffective/shady.
I’d like to see the TE’s get more looks on 3rd and short, especially if our backs continue to get stuffed on short yardage.
Dotson has to play and the OL must dominate. I don’t think the Bears can hang if our guys up front can manhandle them. Weather won’t matter if that’s the case either.
My biggest concern is turnovers.
I’d like to see the TE’s get more looks on 3rd and short, especially if our backs continue to get stuffed on short yardage.
Dotson has to play and the OL must dominate. I don’t think the Bears can hang if our guys up front can manhandle them. Weather won’t matter if that’s the case either.
My biggest concern is turnovers.
2018 they were 3rd in rushing totals and 2nd in rushing TDs.
One could counter argue that they scored 3 points in the superbowl because Gurley went down.
2021 was a different beast all together. Still, I would argue the threat of the run is still just as important in this offense as it was in 18
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For a second, let's view this thread from the opposite POV - what should DC Dennis Allen do? DA has matched up several times against McVay. He knows that his DBs get interceptions and Stafford throws interceptions. Forcing the Rams to be one-dimensional on offense would be huge for them. True, the Bears' defense has been lackluster/crappy stopping the run and they just lost a linebacker, but the weather is (potentially) like having an extra pass defender out there. So, DA can sacrifice some pass D for run D - heavy lineups, run blitzes, heavy box, w/e, etc. IMO it makes sense for the Bears to try to take away the Rams run to force the California team to beat you by throwing the ball in arctic conditions.
Like it or not, the Rams might have to "PASS, PASS, PASS!!!" to win this game.
2018 they had a stretch that was part schematic and part Gurley's health failing at the end yeah.
First problem was teams stacking that outside zone gap with the 6-1 bullshite to limit Gurley, which coincided with a midseason losing streak and was not rectified for a few weeks until they brought in Anderson to shake up the run threat with interior gaps.
I'm of the mind that Gurley should have been benched in that game because of how Belicheat was playing us. They should have kept hammering Anderson at them. But the bigger problem with that game was that the offense didn't have Kupp. Because the loss of our ability to move the chains with quick separating receiving threats allowed the Cheats to sit on Gurley. But that's a whole argument in itself of course just the way I see it.
In the end this is why McVay needs a QB who can move the chains without a run game. And it is why Shanahan can move an offense with shitbags at QB.
They rarely use him, but when they do he seems to catch anything thrown near him.
Ok, so you're saying they should throw on some first downs, but if that's incomplete never run on second down, which almost means you'll have multiple third and long (7+ yds). Most teams run on 2cd & 10 to avoid third and long. But you then say we DO need to run the ball. Hmm. I say run on first down, go 11 personnel and spread it out on second down and run it again, then go 13 and mess with their heads. Either pound it or play action,
DON'T FORGET GETTING KW/CORUM OUT OF THE BACKFIELD. WHITTINGTON IS ALSO A GUY WE HAVEN'T SEEN LATELY...WATCH OUT!!!
I don't want any passes thrown to stone hands Corum. Not even a toss play.
Hand it to him!
I would say 70% of the time, if we run on 2nd and 10 that WILL end up at 3rd and long.
On the flip side, I like our chances picking up 2nd and 10s through the air.
My full thoughts on what I would do play call wise:
1st and 10 - run or pass, whatever McVay feels and the defense is showing
If we get to 2nd and 5 or less - run or pass, whatever McVay feels and the defense is showing
2nd and 6 or more - pass - this can be play action here too, it would still be effective
Offenses goal: avoid 3rd downs at all costs, because 3rd down offense is where we are weakest and 3rd down defense is the Bears strength
