New Ram Ramsey fully participates in Thursday’s practice

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oldnotdead

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Oh like you could trust Peters? Peters didn't fake injuries, he simply refused to play the scheme and hung his team out to dry. Oh yeah like we haven't been here before. In all fairness, Peters had a ton of off field baggage coming to the Rams. Once here he was a model citizen, just rogue on the field. Jalen will get his pay day. He also knows it won't stop the Rams from trading him away if he causes problems. Jalen wants to win and as long as he can win here he's not going to want to rock the boat too much and get traded away. Suh was a bad boy coming in as well, and cleaned up once here. This team has a lot of stars. He will have to prove himself in front of his "peers". People say he has all the leverage? Not so....not in the long run.

Les Snead doesn't suffer fools. Players must produce or they are gone. Remember the Brown thing cuts both ways and smart players understand that. There are limits. AB got himself kicked out of the league now he's whining to be let back in.

Let's see how Jalen is 2 yrs from now before we pass judgement.
 

Dieter the Brock

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Well you could read some of the comments. The guy can be a real diva. We see how that worked out for Raiders with Brown. And I suspect OBJ and Browns will soon blow up.

Thing is most folks believe Ramsey faked a back injury and did not play for the last 3 weeks to force a trade out of Jacksonville. Most players hold out and take a financial hit when they want a trade. Not Jalen.


You can of course ignore this behavior. Maybe he will suddenly grow up. We sill see.

NOOOOOOOOOOOO
NOT A DIVA!!!!

I totally see your point man, it’s time to hit Official “Antonio Brown Panic Button” Bro!

I mean never. And i mean NEVER has their been a CB from Florida with diva tendancies.

BURN IT ALL DOWN!!!!

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rams1fan

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NOOOOOOOOOOOO
NOT A DIVA!!!!

I totally see your point man, it’s time to hit Official “Antonio Brown Panic Button” Bro!

I mean never. And i mean NEVER has their been a CB from Florida with diva tendancies.

BURN IT ALL DOWN!!!!

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You know Its funny. Rarely have I posted an opinion on this board. One time I do and everyone wants to roast me. Go ahead if it makes you feel good. You want to ignore a players past history? Go ahead. that makes sense.
 

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You know Its funny. Rarely have I posted an opinion on this board. One time I do and everyone wants to roast me. Go ahead if it makes you feel good. You want to ignore a players past history? Go ahead. that makes sense.
It's all good dude. Keep posting.
 

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It's all good dude. Keep posting.
Oh I will. Its just a bit depressing when you post an opinion and you get panned not with logic but simply because you do not agree with Rams management. Its cool. Followed the Rams since 69 and wont stop now.
 

badnews

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Oh I will. Its just a bit depressing when you post an opinion and you get panned not with logic but simply because you do not agree with Rams management. Its cool. Followed the Rams since 69 and wont stop now.
Well as for me, I like different takes I can discuss and debate. I didn't intend to roast, just disagree.
 

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Well, 2 first round picks is a very high price. I would never trade Greg Robinson and Tavon Austin for Jalen Ramsey.

The funny part of that sarcasm is it works even though those were TOP 10 1st rounders. Ramsey trade will be bottom 10 of the round. Bank on it.

This was still steep, but bold and absolutely the right move.
 

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Lets compare this to the Khalil Mack deal. Very similar (actually Rams may have given up more). Once Mack was traded to Bears a contract was in place in a week. That is what we should expect here.
 

Dieter the Brock

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You know Its funny. Rarely have I posted an opinion on this board. One time I do and everyone wants to roast me. Go ahead if it makes you feel good. You want to ignore a players past history? Go ahead. that makes sense.

Keep posting
Nobody is calling you names. Just commenting on your sports takes.

I think your arguments against this trade are weak. I mean quoting Jaguar fan; implying Jalen is gonna end up like Antonio Brown; stressing over the fact he isn’t signed long term; blaming Snead for not getting him signed contracts when that’s not his job.

You totally forget about Franchise tags etc...

I just hope you’re not a Laker fan cause the Antonio Davis must be driving you mad. I mean he hasn’t signed long term either.

But yeah keep posting man
 

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Keep posting
Nobody is calling you names. Just commenting on your sports takes.

I think your arguments against this trade are weak. I mean quoting Jaguar fan; implying Jalen is gonna end up like Antonio Brown; stressing over the fact he isn’t signed long term; blaming Snead for not getting him signed contracts when that’s not his job.

You totally forget about Franchise tags etc...

I just hope you’re not a Laker fan cause the Antonio Davis must be driving you mad. I mean he hasn’t signed long term either.

But yeah keep posting man
Not a laker fan. I am east coast anyways. I do not forget about franchise tags but that all affects cap space. In this deal I have a contract pretty much done. And maybe Snead will. My comparison is Khalil Mack. Within a week bears had him wrapped up. I would expect the same here. Wouldn't you? If not then there are questions.
 

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Not a laker fan. I am east coast anyways. I do not forget about franchise tags but that all affects cap space. In this deal I have a contract pretty much done. And maybe Snead will. My comparison is Khalil Mack. Within a week bears had him wrapped up. I would expect the same here. Wouldn't you? If not then there are questions.

So for you the Clowney trade isn’t a good trade cause he wasn’t resigned? And Seattle agreed not to tag him?

And what about your example of Antonio Brown? Is that a success cause the Raiders signed him long term?
 

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So for you the Clowney trade isn’t a good trade cause he wasn’t resigned? And Seattle agreed not to tag him?

And what about your example of Antonio Brown? Is that a success cause the Raiders signed him long term?
Mingo, Martin and a third rounder is cheap., Two backups and a third rounder. We shipped off two first rounders and a fourth. Much different.
 

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Not a laker fan. I am east coast anyways. I do not forget about franchise tags but that all affects cap space. In this deal I have a contract pretty much done. And maybe Snead will. My comparison is Khalil Mack. Within a week bears had him wrapped up. I would expect the same here. Wouldn't you? If not then there are questions.

Firstly, they can't offer him a contract until he's officially with the team. They can't negotiate with him or his reps, either. They CAN talk to them to understand enough to see if the move is worth it. As in, some guys have said that they'd retire if they weren't traded to a playoff team or they'd retire rather than play in Cleveland or wherever. LA/St Louis was like that for a long time. So it's legal and not tampering to ensure that a guy who's traded will actually show up. Otherwise, it's just a giant waste of time and a lot of legal paperwork for nothing.

So, here's the dealio.

This is based on the Rams not "renting" Jalen Ramsey to push out the 1st rounder/s a year or two years.

Snead talked to Ramsey's reps. He said so in his presser. I'm sure he not only asked directly if Ramsey would show, but would he play while they worked out a deal. They had to have said yes, because they made the trade. He also would have asked about the basic framework for what Ramsey would want in a long term deal. If the rep said, "we want 10 years, $200M", then Snead hangs up and says, "well, it woulda been nice". That didn't happen. So it's close enough that Snead feels confident it can get done. They may already have an agreement in principle.

They can't do any more because a) he's still a Jag at this point and b) even in transition, he's not official per the league office, so it would still be some form of tampering to be working on a contract for a player not on your roster. Now, this gets all but ignored just prior to the FA period and no one really complains as it helps both teams and players to get deals done quickly.

Anyway, once he's cleared medical, and I believe he did that today, he's on the team. We'll see based on reporting in the next day or so if the Jags have to pay his salary this week as he wasn't officially in the trade process until later Tuesday evening EDT unlike Peters who was in the process prior to the deadline.

Now, they begin the negotiating. Demoff and Pastoors have to configure a contract with not only gross numbers, but configure bonuses et al to fit their trying to do under the cap as well as meet the player's demands. For parties on the same page, this doesn't typically take long. Khalil became the highest paid defender in the NFL and it took his people a week with Chicago to get it done.

So, based on logistics and how close they start, it could be done in a week, but I'd suspect that they'll wait a couple of weeks to get it done. I don't sense anyone is in a rush.

Now, if the season ends and there's no extension, then I would be much more concerned.

But I would be shocked 11/10 if that were the case. I truly believe we're signing Ramsey for the long term.
 

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Firstly, they can't offer him a contract until he's officially with the team. They can't negotiate with him or his reps, either. They CAN talk to them to understand enough to see if the move is worth it. As in, some guys have said that they'd retire if they weren't traded to a playoff team or they'd retire rather than play in Cleveland or wherever. LA/St Louis was like that for a long time. So it's legal and not tampering to ensure that a guy who's traded will actually show up. Otherwise, it's just a giant waste of time and a lot of legal paperwork for nothing.

So, here's the dealio.

This is based on the Rams not "renting" Jalen Ramsey to push out the 1st rounder/s a year or two years.

Snead talked to Ramsey's reps. He said so in his presser. I'm sure he not only asked directly if Ramsey would show, but would he play while they worked out a deal. They had to have said yes, because they made the trade. He also would have asked about the basic framework for what Ramsey would want in a long term deal. If the rep said, "we want 10 years, $200M", then Snead hangs up and says, "well, it woulda been nice". That didn't happen. So it's close enough that Snead feels confident it can get done. They may already have an agreement in principle.

They can't do any more because a) he's still a Jag at this point and b) even in transition, he's not official per the league office, so it would still be some form of tampering to be working on a contract for a player not on your roster. Now, this gets all but ignored just prior to the FA period and no one really complains as it helps both teams and players to get deals done quickly.

Anyway, once he's cleared medical, and I believe he did that today, he's on the team. We'll see based on reporting in the next day or so if the Jags have to pay his salary this week as he wasn't officially in the trade process until later Tuesday evening EDT unlike Peters who was in the process prior to the deadline.

Now, they begin the negotiating. Demoff and Pastoors have to configure a contract with not only gross numbers, but configure bonuses et al to fit their trying to do under the cap as well as meet the player's demands. For parties on the same page, this doesn't typically take long. Khalil became the highest paid defender in the NFL and it took his people a week with Chicago to get it done.

So, based on logistics and how close they start, it could be done in a week, but I'd suspect that they'll wait a couple of weeks to get it done. I don't sense anyone is in a rush.

Now, if the season ends and there's no extension, then I would be much more concerned.

But I would be shocked 11/10 if that were the case. I truly believe we're signing Ramsey for the long term.
One week or two weeks fine. How long before it becomes a concern? You have to go into this deal knowing basically how much. If Jalen shifts and it becomes significantly more than what?

Like I said. My concern is the individual here, I do not care what he said in a press conference. Just going off past actions.