Mike Carey, replay review analyst, out at CBS

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Report: Mike Carey out at CBS
Posted by Michael David Smith on June 11, 2016

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Mike Carey, the former NFL referee whose botched television analysis of replay reviews became a punch line among football fans, will not be back on CBS.

Bob Raissman of the New York Daily News reports that Carey is not expected to return as the CBS rules analyst for the 2016 season.

Amid withering criticism, CBS defended Carey, claiming that he was doing good work and the criticism of him was hurtful. But CBS had to know Carey simply wasn’t up to the task: He had one job, to tell viewers what was going to happen while a referee reviewed a replay, and Carey often didn’t get that one job right.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6LRFO1FfRg

That culminated in the Super Bowl, when Carey wrongly claimed that Carolina would win a challenge on an incomplete pass. After Carolina lost the challenge, CBS didn’t bring Carey back for the rest of the game.

Raissman reports that CBS is “highly unlikely” to hire another retired official. Although Mike Pereira does the job well for FOX, it’s a tough job to do well, as it requires both a thorough understanding of the NFL’s complex rulebook and a clear, concise ability to speak on television.

Both Carey and former ref Gerry Austin, who works for ESPN, have struggled to explain rulings quickly, concisely and correctly.

Carey was well regarded as a referee, but it seems unlikely that the NFL will hire him back. It’s unclear whether he has any future in football at all, or whether he’ll now just enjoy retirement.

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Blame CBS, not Mike Carey, for the failed Mike Carey experiment
Posted by Mike Florio on June 11, 2016

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The smartest (i.e., least stupid) move CBS has made in connection with the two-year Mike Carey experiment was pulling the plug on it. The blame for Carey’s failure, however, falls primarily upon the powers-that-be at CBS and not Mike Carey.

In hindsight, Carey never should have been hired. Regardless of justifications CBS management would now offer for giving Carey such a prominent role in its NFL broadcasts, it was obvious from the moment Carey first opened his mouth that, despite his ability to say “holding, 65, offense” in a clear and authoritative way while on the field as a referee, he lacks the ability to choose in real time from a broader universe of available words when discussing the decisions being made by the people currently doing the job he used to do.

This means that CBS didn’t give Carey a proper audition for the job — or that CBS did give him a proper audition but failed to properly assess his work.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8o9qPUCCak

Apart from the misguided decision to hire Carey, CBS thereafter failed to coach him. The best TV producers (and I have the privilege of working with them . . . which I guess I don’t need to say now that my extension has been signed) will tell the on-air employees where and how to improve, in clear, candid terms.

And they’ll keep telling them, over and over again until it takes. If it never takes, the relationship simply can’t continue.

CBS should have been pushing Carey hard enough to improve to know that after one year the relationship needed to end. Someone decided to give him another year, which was the third major mistake CBS made.

It seemed as if CBS would opt to circle the wagons around Carey, pushing back against the criticism he received. Carey himself tried to offer up explanations and excuses for his poor performance with remarks that underscored a lack of self-awareness so complete that even Michael Scott would say, “Wow, that guy has no self-awareness.”

Ultimately, the job requires a thorough understanding of the rules along with a thorough understanding of the role. Mike Carey wasn’t hired to make guesses about replay rulings but to assess and analyze which rules applied, how they should be applied based on the available camera angles, and what the outcome should be. If the job is done correctly, there’s no right or wrong. The rules analyst is always right, and anyone who disagrees with him (including the game officials) is wrong.

It’s not an easy job, but that’s no excuse for letting someone do it poorly. The fact that Mike Pereira of FOX makes it look much easier than it is makes it hard for someone like Mike Carey or Gerry Austin or Ed Hochuli (“Ed, the game ended 45 minutes ago and we went off the air 40 minutes ago; you can stop talking”) to compete.

 

[OldSchool]

Charles described Carey the best.

 

[Dodgersrf]

Carey was good on the field.
I usually don't pay much attention to the talking heads trying to figure out a call.

 

[Ramhusker]

Thank you!

 

[RhodyRams]

Now now people...you cant blame Carey for not knowing if a catch is a catch when the NFL doesnt even know what a catch is


catch my drift?

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Carey was good on the field.
I usually don't pay much attention to the talking heads trying to figure out a call.

I didn't think he was very good on the field

 

[CGI_Ram]

I thought Carey was good on the field.

But; yeah... He was a train wreck in this TV role.

 

[OntarioRam]

Carey was indeed bad at getting the calls right on TV, but I cut any analyst some slack there. Half the time they actually get the call right, but it's the REFS who make the wrong call.

 

[den-the-coach]

Suffice it to post the last referee I liked was Red Cashion.

 

[Prime Time]

It's a tie for worst ref between Jeff Triplette and Jerome Boger.

 

[den-the-coach]

It's a tie for worst ref between Jeff Triplette and Jerome Boger.

No it isn't...Not when it comes to the Rams...Hands down the winner is:

 

[StealYoGurley]

I actually found it very entertaining how consistently bad he was. It was hilarious

He will be missed.

 

[jrry32]

No it isn't...Not when it comes to the Rams...Hands down the winner is:

Nah. Tripleshit is definitely the worst for the Rams. He has something against us. Boger is the worst for the rest of the NFL.

 

[Mojo Ram]

"Personal foul....defense That legal tackle looked too rough. First down...offense."

"Personal foul...defense. That DT's hands are too fast. He must have hit the QB in the face. 15 yards. First down...offense."

"Offensive pass interference. These Rams WR's suck and although i didn't see it, there's no way he got that open without pushing off. 10 yard penalty. Replay 3rd down."

"Rams defense just playing too rough. 5 yard penalty cuz Fuck em."

 

[badnews]

"Personal foul....defense That legal tackle looked too rough. First down...offense."

"Personal foul...defense. That DT's hands are too fast. He must have hit the QB in the face. 15 yards. First down...offense."

"Offensive pass interference. These Rams WR's suck and although i didn't see it, there's no way he got that open without pushing off. 10 yard penalty. Replay 3rd down."

"Rams defense just playing too rough. 5 yard penalty cuz freak em."
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Nailed it

 

[Roman Snow]

"Personal foul....defense That legal tackle looked too rough. First down...offense."

"Personal foul...defense. That DT's hands are too fast. He must have hit the QB in the face. 15 yards. First down...offense."

"Offensive pass interference. These Rams WR's suck and although i didn't see it, there's no way he got that open without pushing off. 10 yard penalty. Replay 3rd down."

"Rams defense just playing too rough. 5 yard penalty cuz freak em."
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You did nail it. My favorite is the offensive pass interference. I see Ram receivers called on it, but a guy like Boldin does it every play.

 

[bubbaramfan]

Spot on Mojo, and for all those that want the Rams to sign Boldin, being a Ram, he would be called for OPI about every damend play.

 

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https://theringer.com/nfl-mike-carey-rules-analyst-human-error-edd2226e9a29#.5t4znw80d

The End of Mike Carey, and the Twilight of Human Error
Claire McNear
Staff Writer, The Ringer

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Mike Carey is out as CBS’s NFL rules analyst, and we are one step closer to having robot referees.

With Carey and CBS’s “mutual agreement” to part ways, the margin for human error in and around professional officiating has shrunk even more. Last week, NBA commissioner Adam Silver defended the release of Last Two Minute reports, which detail the officiating crew’s internal review of game calls, highlighting mistakes while not affecting game results. The league’s refs have balked at making the reports public, claiming their release holds the officials to an impossible standard.

“Efforts to promote transparency have encouraged the idea that perfection in officiating is possible,” the National Basketball Referees Association argued ina statement. “Perfection is neither possible nor desirable; if every possible infraction were to be called, the game would be unwatchable and would cease to exist as a form of entertainment in this country.”

Silver has framed this as an issue of transparency and accountability: “You can’t turn back the clock on transparency,” he told ESPN’s Sage Steele.

Carey, meanwhile, was done in largely by his own mistakes. When he was hired in 2014 as CBS’s rules analyst, the network hoped his on-field experience — 24 seasons as an NFL referee — would translate into the ability to interpret challenged plays on air. It did not: Carey floundered in the position, committing a series of mistakes, including misinterpreting a Ron Rivera challenge in Super Bowl 50. Whatever his personal judgment, he had been put in an impossible spot: either repudiate his former colleagues on air, or go along with them and risk making a fool of himself.

Other networks’ rule analysts remain, notably Fox’s Mike Pereira, another former NFL official. But it’s hard not to look at the advance of technology — for example, MLB’s efforts to automate balls and strikes — and see anything but the beginning of the end for human referees.

What is the role of a ref when we all have smartphones in our pockets? This is in part what Silver means by “transparency”: By the time a challenge has been sent for instant replay, fans have watched the play repeatedly, from every angle imaginable. With the ability to see more has come ever shriller responses to blown calls, which fans are able to broadcast directly to teams, leagues, and networks via social media. Officiating errors — which are now known, with near immediacy and in excruciating detail — are not tolerated.

And who wants mistakes? On Sunday night, Brazil was eliminated from the Copa América after an obvious handball from Peru was missed by officials, who have said they made a very human mistake: They just didn’t see it.

The question becomes how long we want to continue to trust fallible human beings when we can, more often than not, know beyond a shadow of a doubt what really happened. The NBA’s referees say officiating perfection would ruin the product. It seems that networks and commissioners alike — to say nothing of fans — aren’t so sure.

 

[Mikey Ram]

"Personal foul....defense That legal tackle looked too rough. First down...offense."

Well played, really well played...
Refs that drive me crazy are the ones that can't get enough of hearisel themselves talk...My pet peeve is: By rule..bah blah blah...If it wasn't by rule, why the fuck would you make that call...

"Personal foul...defense. That DT's hands are too fast. He must have hit the QB in the face. 15 yards. First down...offense."

"Offensive pass interference. These Rams WR's suck and although i didn't see it, there's no way he got that open without pushing off. 10 yard penalty. Replay 3rd down."

"Rams defense just playing too rough. 5 yard penalty cuz freak em."
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