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Jadeveon Clowney had been in the public conscious for 2 years. And now Wham-O, suddenly the Rams possess the #2 pick! Before watching Jadeveon Clowney tape and interviews, I was in the Camp flying Red flags. I blame the media! I blame myself for believing the negative hype, without first checking out the film. So what did I see?

Jadeveon Clowney
, DE, South Carolina at the NFL Combine
Height: 6-6. Weight: 266.
40 Time: 4.53 -Vertical leap 37.5

Jadeveon is a big man! Jadeveon will get put threw the grinder by 4 or 5 NFL defensive line coaches. I'm curious how Clowney will do in linebacker coverage drills, because I know the Rams Scouts will watch those drills very closely.

If you haven't noticed , Jadeveon Clowney is a Big Man! I predict tomorrow 266 pounds of muscle strapped to a 6 foot 6 inch frame! No baby fat on this boy. Anyway I watched a bunch of 2013 film and last years Outback Bowl, where Jadeveon Clowney went up against Taylor Lewan. In all I watched 8 complete games including, the Tennessee game, where Antonio Richardson had to block Clowney.

Against the Run- Clowney is even better against the run than the pass! For the most part teams refused to run directly at Clowney. But that didn't stop Clowney from disrupting plays to the other side of the line. Clowney has a tremendous knack for faking an outside rush, and then attacking inside with blinding speed. Clowney fake outside, then shoot the gapinside and meet the ball carrier 4 yards deep in the backfield. ( On one play the running back made a dangerous but smart decision. As he was hit by Clowney he pushed the football forward thru the air back at the QB! Ruling? Incomplete pass) lol You won't see that play in Clowney stats.

Clowney also can run parallel behind the line of scrimmage like Robert Quinn and tackle the RB, before he makes his break off the opposite OT. The only time teams ran at Clowney was in passing situations.
Clowney would rush the edge like Quinn, and the OT would take him up field, and out of the play. Clowney has a fantastic Swim move he uses to split blocks on passing and running plays. He often beat double teams that way.

Clowney is very strong, and he just manhandles ball carriers. Not bench press strong. Farm boy strong. God help them if he hits square up.

Against the Pass- Clowney reminds me of Quinn when rushing the edge. Like Quinn he can be taken out of the play to the outside. I think Quinn has better body edge bend. But when Clowney runs a stunt to the inside, he is very dangerous. Many of his sacks, hurries, forced fumbles, and blocked passes came on these type rushes. Once Clowney gets his hand on a QB, the QB very rarely escapes. Clowney has super-duper closing speed. When he hits the running back or QB dead on it's breath taking.Taylor Lewan and Antonio Richardson both had their hands full. It seemed to me that Jadeveon got extra motivated this year to play against Antionio Richarson. I think Clowne gets up for the better offensive tackles, because I Jadeveon had one of his better games against Richardson. Richardson is projected as a late first to early 2nd rounder. Here is a link to all of Clowney vs Richarson's snaps-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWul62MaRT4

Misconceptions-
- I think Clowney has a high motor. Before I saw the film, I thought he took plays off. I didn't see Clowney take many plays off. He often caught RB's from behind down field. He's faster then most running backs. His first step off the ball is extremely impressive. Clowney's motor is very high!!!

- Clowney can play 3 technique, DE, and strong side linebacker. Several times a game Clowney would drop back into coverage. Or he would start the play in a 2 point stance, and drop back against the pass, or for containment. I didn't see many throws in his direction, but what I did see was Clowney ability to track the QB or the running back in those situations. And because Clowney can change direction very quickly for a big man, he excels at cornering QB's and Running Backs. He Tracks RB's down with speed, reactions, and patience. He Hunts and Tracks them down. For a tall man Clowney can play 3 technique and stay low on runs.

- Personality I watched several Clowney interviews. Clowney likes to laugh. He's is an optimist. He doesn't guard his words, so he comes off unrehearsed, blunt, and sincere. He'll do good on the interviews at the combine. More importantly Clowney strikes me as a Man who Loves to play football. That's how I see it. I didn't see the primadonna I heard so much about. He's not Peyton Manning humble. But he's no Michael Irvin either. He's no worse than anybody else. His intelligence is average.

Pros and Cons- Pros- Size, speed, tracking ability, versatility to play anywhere on the line and Sam Linebacker, ( Clowney is very good at stringing a play out to the sideline, where either he, or a teammate, or the sideline makes the tackle), Clowney can stop on a dime and shift direction very well for a man his size. Running backs have a difficult time faking him out. High motor. Team player
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Cons- Sometimes Clowney stands too high on a pass rush, and the OT can tie him up. Like I said earlier, teams can run inside the tackle on obvious passing plays, when Clowney rushes the QB on an edge rush, Remember how the Cowboys did that to us last year? Speeding tickets. He had an IV before a game because of a stomach virus. The media watches Clowney's every move. If you want to see why Jadeveon was sucking air in the North Carolina game watch the tape. He played very hard! The tape don't lie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnnTNVWK0lg

Double and Triple Teams - I had heard that Clowney was double and triple teamed on every play. This was not true. Whenever they ran the ball at Clowney he was double teamed. And he held up well, often disrupting the play, if not making the tackle. On passing plays he was double teamed often by the OT and a RB. If he got past the OT the running back was in trouble. I only saw a few triple teams and triple teams neutralized Clowney.

How would Jadeveon Clowney fit in with the Rams? I know DE is our strength. Let's speculate anyway, because you know Snisher is speculating. Because of Clowney size, speed, and reactions, the Rams could play Clowey anywhere along the Defensive Line. Like I said earlier, Clowney is very effective against the run. He can stay low on running downs. On passing downs imagine a four man line of Long, Clowney, Brockers, and Quinn.

Or you could play Clowney at strong side linebacker in certain situations. I saw him do it on tape. Greg Williams is known for his creative blitz packages. Clowney would be a terror blizting from the strong OLB spot. Plus he can move from sideline to sideline like Ogletree, except at Jadeveon at 6-6 272 4.50 is bigger and faster than Ogletree! Take my word for it when I say, he can fight off offensive line blocks better Ogletree or J. Laurinatis. Don't get me wrong! I love our linebackers. I do, I do. Muah Ogletree. xoxox JL

Should the Rams draft Clowne? After watching film, my feelings wouldn't be hurt if the Rams drafted him at #2. I give Houston a 35% shot at drafting Jadeveon. He's not dropping past #2. #3 is the lowest I can imagine him going. GM's have seen the same film, I saw, and I guarantee you he won't be there at #4. I've also watched a lot of film on Anthony Barr and Khalil Mack. Clowney is way better than those two. If I can know that, than Snisher know it too. Jadeveon Clowney is the best defensive player in the draft. Hands down. After watching film I can only imagine 2 player the Rams would target in the 2-4 range. Jadeveon and Sammy Watkins.

If Jeff Fisher and Les Snead want to collect elite future hall of famers, then Snisher must consider Clowney at #2! Playmakers! We want playmakers QB's are out of the question. If Fisher's has never drafted an offensive lineman in the first round, what makes you think he would draft a OT in the first 6 picks. Snisher want's playmakers. Behind Snisher's closed doors I'll bet the discussion is between Sammy Watkins and Jadeveon Clowney. Or more likely trading down for valuable extra picks. Jadevon Clowney is a little immature, but the Manster is only 21 years old! Give him a break, and watch NFL NETWORK broadcast Clowney workout. I'm sure Jadeveon will knock it out of the park. Tune in and watch Wednesday NFL Network Jadeveon TV. And comment on what you see!

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South Carolina QB Connor Shaw: Clowney was in “lose-lose” situation last year
Posted by Curtis Crabtree on April 2, 2014

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Based on pure talent and raw ability,Jadeveon Clowney may very well be the run away top prospect in May’s NFL Draft. At 6-foot-5 and 266 pounds, Clowney posted a somewhat ridiculous 4.53 seconds in the 40-yard dash at the NFL combine in February. However, questions regarding his work ethic and motor have been abundant after his production dipped from 11 sacks in 2012 to just three sacks last season at South Carolina.

Former South Carolina quarterback Connor Shaw said he believes Clowney was fighting an uphill battle against perception all last season

“I’ve been there. I’ve watched his work ethic over the summer. Jadeveon Clowney was in a lose-lose situation last year with the media and all the critics,” Shaw said, in an interview with Alex Marvez and Gil Brandt on Sirius XM NFL Radio. “The guy is an animal on and off the field. His work ethic in the weight room, I’ve seen it first hand and if you ask any of his teammates from South Carolina they’ll say the same thing.

“I think he will be a better NFL player than he was a college player. He absolutely wants to be the best. He’s very competitive and when he gets to that next level, he’ll step up to the stage.”

Clowney entered last season as the presumed top selection in this year’s draft. He wasn’t sneaking up on anyone after a dominant sophomore season at South Carolina. Shaw said opposing teams understandably made it a focal point to take Clowney out of the game.

“He had such a monster year his sophomore year that people just expected that the next year,” Shaw said. “Well, all of a sudden you have a tight end on him, a running back on him, your left tackle. He’s getting triple-teamed almost every down. It’s hard. People run away from him.

“He plays banged up. He tried to not let that leak out but he was hurt some of the season playing through injuries.”

The Houston Texans hold the No. 1 overall pick in this year’s draft. Head coach Bill O’Brien told Josh Kendall of The State he had “absolutely” no concerns about Clowney’s work ethic after his pro day on Tuesday.

Shaw believes that any team that passes on Clowney due to believing he lacks competitiveness and work ethic will regret it.

“I, for one, think he should go No. 1,” Shaw said. “All the scrutiny he’s been facing, I think they’ll realize that they made a mistake once he gets in the NFL.”
 

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Misconceptions-
- I think Clowney has a high motor. Before I saw the film, I thought he took plays off. I didn't see Clowney take many plays off. He often caught RB's from behind down field. He's faster then most running backs. His first step off the ball is extremely impressive. Clowney's motor is very high!!!
I still disagree with this. I'm not saying he takes plays off, but he does slow down when the play gets behind him. He's a monster when the play is in front of him.
 

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I still disagree with this. I'm not saying he takes plays off, but he does slow down when the play gets behind him. He's a monster when the play is in front of him.

I am sure that holds true for 99% of players. I see it with the rams DL line as well.
 

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Jadeveon Clowney had been in the public conscious for 2 years. And now Wham-O, suddenly the Rams possess the #2 pick! Before watching Jadeveon Clowney tape and interviews, I was in the Camp flying Red flags. I blame the media! I blame myself for believing the negative hype, without first checking out the film. So what did I see?

Jadeveon Clowney
, DE, South Carolina at the NFL Combine
Height: 6-6. Weight: 266.
40 Time: 4.53 -Vertical leap 37.5

Jadeveon is a big man! Jadeveon will get put threw the grinder by 4 or 5 NFL defensive line coaches. I'm curious how Clowney will do in linebacker coverage drills, because I know the Rams Scouts will watch those drills very closely.

If you haven't noticed , Jadeveon Clowney is a Big Man! I predict tomorrow 266 pounds of muscle strapped to a 6 foot 6 inch frame! No baby fat on this boy. Anyway I watched a bunch of 2013 film and last years Outback Bowl, where Jadeveon Clowney went up against Taylor Lewan. In all I watched 8 complete games including, the Tennessee game, where Antonio Richardson had to block Clowney.

Against the Run- Clowney is even better against the run than the pass! For the most part teams refused to run directly at Clowney. But that didn't stop Clowney from disrupting plays to the other side of the line. Clowney has a tremendous knack for faking an outside rush, and then attacking inside with blinding speed. Clowney fake outside, then shoot the gapinside and meet the ball carrier 4 yards deep in the backfield. ( On one play the running back made a dangerous but smart decision. As he was hit by Clowney he pushed the football forward thru the air back at the QB! Ruling? Incomplete pass) lol You won't see that play in Clowney stats.

Clowney also can run parallel behind the line of scrimmage like Robert Quinn and tackle the RB, before he makes his break off the opposite OT. The only time teams ran at Clowney was in passing situations.
Clowney would rush the edge like Quinn, and the OT would take him up field, and out of the play. Clowney has a fantastic Swim move he uses to split blocks on passing and running plays. He often beat double teams that way.

Clowney is very strong, and he just manhandles ball carriers. Not bench press strong. Farm boy strong. God help them if he hits square up.

Against the Pass- Clowney reminds me of Quinn when rushing the edge. Like Quinn he can be taken out of the play to the outside. I think Quinn has better body edge bend. But when Clowney runs a stunt to the inside, he is very dangerous. Many of his sacks, hurries, forced fumbles, and blocked passes came on these type rushes. Once Clowney gets his hand on a QB, the QB very rarely escapes. Clowney has super-duper closing speed. When he hits the running back or QB dead on it's breath taking.Taylor Lewan and Antonio Richardson both had their hands full. It seemed to me that Jadeveon got extra motivated this year to play against Antionio Richarson. I think Clowne gets up for the better offensive tackles, because I Jadeveon had one of his better games against Richardson. Richardson is projected as a late first to early 2nd rounder. Here is a link to all of Clowney vs Richarson's snaps-



Misconceptions-
- I think Clowney has a high motor. Before I saw the film, I thought he took plays off. I didn't see Clowney take many plays off. He often caught RB's from behind down field. He's faster then most running backs. His first step off the ball is extremely impressive. Clowney's motor is very high!!!

- Clowney can play 3 technique, DE, and strong side linebacker. Several times a game Clowney would drop back into coverage. Or he would start the play in a 2 point stance, and drop back against the pass, or for containment. I didn't see many throws in his direction, but what I did see was Clowney ability to track the QB or the running back in those situations. And because Clowney can change direction very quickly for a big man, he excels at cornering QB's and Running Backs. He Tracks RB's down with speed, reactions, and patience. He Hunts and Tracks them down. For a tall man Clowney can play 3 technique and stay low on runs.

- Personality I watched several Clowney interviews. Clowney likes to laugh. He's is an optimist. He doesn't guard his words, so he comes off unrehearsed, blunt, and sincere. He'll do good on the interviews at the combine. More importantly Clowney strikes me as a Man who Loves to play football. That's how I see it. I didn't see the primadonna I heard so much about. He's not Peyton Manning humble. But he's no Michael Irvin either. He's no worse than anybody else. His intelligence is average.

Pros and Cons- Pros- Size, speed, tracking ability, versatility to play anywhere on the line and Sam Linebacker, ( Clowney is very good at stringing a play out to the sideline, where either he, or a teammate, or the sideline makes the tackle), Clowney can stop on a dime and shift direction very well for a man his size. Running backs have a difficult time faking him out. High motor. Team player
.
Cons- Sometimes Clowney stands too high on a pass rush, and the OT can tie him up. Like I said earlier, teams can run inside the tackle on obvious passing plays, when Clowney rushes the QB on an edge rush, Remember how the Cowboys did that to us last year? Speeding tickets. He had an IV before a game because of a stomach virus. The media watches Clowney's every move. If you want to see why Jadeveon was sucking air in the North Carolina game watch the tape. He played very hard! The tape don't lie.



Double and Triple Teams - I had heard that Clowney was double and triple teamed on every play. This was not true. Whenever they ran the ball at Clowney he was double teamed. And he held up well, often disrupting the play, if not making the tackle. On passing plays he was double teamed often by the OT and a RB. If he got past the OT the running back was in trouble. I only saw a few triple teams and triple teams neutralized Clowney.

How would Jadeveon Clowney fit in with the Rams? I know DE is our strength. Let's speculate anyway, because you know Snisher is speculating. Because of Clowney size, speed, and reactions, the Rams could play Clowey anywhere along the Defensive Line. Like I said earlier, Clowney is very effective against the run. He can stay low on running downs. On passing downs imagine a four man line of Long, Clowney, Brockers, and Quinn.

Or you could play Clowney at strong side linebacker in certain situations. I saw him do it on tape. Greg Williams is known for his creative blitz packages. Clowney would be a terror blizting from the strong OLB spot. Plus he can move from sideline to sideline like Ogletree, except at Jadeveon at 6-6 272 4.50 is bigger and faster than Ogletree! Take my word for it when I say, he can fight off offensive line blocks better Ogletree or J. Laurinatis. Don't get me wrong! I love our linebackers. I do, I do. Muah Ogletree. xoxox JL

Should the Rams draft Clowne? After watching film, my feelings wouldn't be hurt if the Rams drafted him at #2. I give Houston a 35% shot at drafting Jadeveon. He's not dropping past #2. #3 is the lowest I can imagine him going. GM's have seen the same film, I saw, and I guarantee you he won't be there at #4. I've also watched a lot of film on Anthony Barr and Khalil Mack. Clowney is way better than those two. If I can know that, than Snisher know it too. Jadeveon Clowney is the best defensive player in the draft. Hands down. After watching film I can only imagine 2 player the Rams would target in the 2-4 range. Jadeveon and Sammy Watkins.

If Jeff Fisher and Les Snead want to collect elite future hall of famers, then Snisher must consider Clowney at #2! Playmakers! We want playmakers QB's are out of the question. If Fisher's has never drafted an offensive lineman in the first round, what makes you think he would draft a OT in the first 6 picks. Snisher want's playmakers. Behind Snisher's closed doors I'll bet the discussion is between Sammy Watkins and Jadeveon Clowney. Or more likely trading down for valuable extra picks. Jadevon Clowney is a little immature, but the Manster is only 21 years old! Give him a break, and watch NFL NETWORK broadcast Clowney workout. I'm sure Jadeveon will knock it out of the park. Tune in and watch Wednesday NFL Network Jadeveon TV. And comment on what you see!


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Yes he does.. But I have seen him jog trailing a run in the opposite direction as well. Lets face it. ALL players do it on occasion.
We could explore that 99% theory further Lol, but my contention with that writer is that Clowney does NOT have a high motor. Thats the one areas he needs to improve upon IMO.
 
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Hi, guys.

I just wanted to apologise for my appalling behaviour towards our new member.

I've already sent a personal message to Cindy and I hope that she can forgive me.

I've been out drinking all day and, while that doesn't excuse my lack of manners, I hope that it explains it. Those of you who read my posts (if any of you do) know that I'm not a bad guy.

Sorry

Carl.

That's why we don't drink our beer warm. Will you people never learn? Use a beer bong and cold lite beer. Sheesh.
 

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Not bench press strong. Farm boy strong.

Look people, we all need to go join Texans' sites and bad mouth Clowney.

None of that farm boy strong stuff. These are Texans. We need city slicker liberal starbucks comments. Say he likes Macs and foreign cars and stuff.

Get on it. :coach:

Welcome RamsAndEwe, good post!
 

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Unless we get a great trade offer, I'm good with Clowney at 2.

Can Lewan play OG at a high level? That'd be good.
 

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If Long is healthy, I would think Lewan plays RT. Long not healthy, he plays LT.

FWIW, Lewan has no experience at guard that I know of and with his height would struggle with leverage inside. I would think they work him in preseason at guard to see anyway.
 

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If Long is healthy, I would think Lewan plays RT. Long not healthy, he plays LT.

FWIW, Lewan has no experience at guard that I know of and with his height would struggle with leverage inside. I would think they work him in preseason at guard to see anyway.
if they did that, the line would look

LT- Long, LG - Saffold, C- wells, RG - Lewan, RT - barksdale
 

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No matter who they decide to play guard and tackle on the right side between Lewan and Barksdale, I would think the pass pro would be OK. The running game might have some blips to begin with but both are decent run blockers. The difference maker would be having Saffold pulling, trapping and leading on runs to the right. Somehow I think Boo could make it work quite well.
 

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I am sure that holds true for 99% of players. I see it with the rams DL line as well.
Ya didn't see it much with Leonard Little, I still remember him chasing Antwan Randle El down from behind
 

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Ya didn't see it much with Leonard Little, I still remember him chasing Antwan Randle El down from behind

sure we all have seen them chase down players at one time or another. I can assure you the very next play they are on the sideline sucking wind or are trying to catch their breath during the next play.
 
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No matter who they decide to play guard and tackle on the right side between Lewan and Barksdale, I would think the pass pro would be OK. The running game might have some blips to begin with but both are decent run blockers. The difference maker would be having Saffold pulling, trapping and leading on runs to the right. Somehow I think Boo could make it work quite well.

Actually when I think of the tandem of Saffold and Long, that would just be downright nasty. 2 of our best run blockers next to each other...
 

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Man, I think Clowney gained a lot of momentum on this forum this week, myself included.

All it really does for me is make the #2 pick jump considerably. Someone is gonna have to pay a hefty amount for Clowney or whoever they want.

A nice trade with CLE and landing Robibson is still the best case scenario. We're taking Clowney if not.

"Can't never have too many pass rushers."
 

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Man, I think Clowney gained a lot of momentum on this forum this week, myself included.

All it really does for me is make the #2 pick jump considerably. Someone is gonna have to pay a hefty amount for Clowney or whoever they want.

A nice trade with CLE and landing Robibson is still the best case scenario. We're taking Clowney if not.

"Can't never have too many pass rushers."

Unless someone floors us with offers, I would take Clowney. Then I would still except offers.