If we lose Shula to a HC gig…

[Noregar]

Reminded me of Milquetoast Linehan as Scotty ended every sentence with "Okay." Gannon was more in his interaction individually. I remember actually communicating with Jim Thomas of the STL PD who covered the Rams and asked him, how in the world could Linehan come off good in an interview and response was "Maybe Linehan was better in one on ones as opposed to group settings." I just could not believe this guy was trying to lead a football team.

I will communicate once, twice and many times over, Scott Linehan could not motivate a marine at a brothel. Linehan was just a yutz, whereas, Gannon seems more like a putz. IMO, Scott Linehan was the worst Head Coach in Ram history because Spagnuolo could at least communicate a message.

Agreed, Linehan is the worst Rams coach in my 50 years of Rams fandom.
Spagnolo is number 2
Chuck Knox's 2nd stint in the nineties and Jeff Fisher Mr. 7-9 are tied at 3. Fisher could not build an offense and he was setup with a better front office and owner than Knox had.

 

[WestCoastRam]

I highly doubt an individual like Shula that is a Type A personality has ever had that thought cross his mind.

I don't understand, say more

 

[duanevalle22]

wut?

I was just stating in response to your post that Shula with his type of personality would ever think he wouldn't be successful..... If he did he wouldn't be in the NFL

 

[Merlin]

Reminded me of Milquetoast Linehan as Scotty ended every sentence with "Okay." Gannon was more in his interaction individually. I remember actually communicating with Jim Thomas of the STL PD who covered the Rams and asked him, how in the world could Linehan come off good in an interview and response was "Maybe Linehan was better in one on ones as opposed to group settings." I just could not believe this guy was trying to lead a football team.

I will communicate once, twice and many times over, Scott Linehan could not motivate a marine at a brothel. Linehan was just a yutz, whereas, Gannon seems more like a putz. IMO, Scott Linehan was the worst Head Coach in Ram history because Spagnuolo could at least communicate a message.

Yes and it's crazy that some owners don't seem to understand that the coach has to have some gravitas to him. There has to be an authenticity that translates to the players and some dudes just watching them go about their business or at the podium it's clear they're not the one you want leading the entire org.

 

[Pupped]

If a coordinator aspires to be a HC, they need to strike when the iron is hot. Never know when the next opportunity will come along.
Houston was a bad gig, but Ryans made it work out, Carolina was a disaster and Canales turned things around heck even Buffalo was a shit show until McDermott showed up

So, I’m not saying don’t go to a losing team. That would be silly. I’m saying don’t jump into a bad situation… meaning ownership and front office.
Again.. I point to Ben Johnson as an example.

Do I know the ins and outs of all of those orgs? Nope. But he will have a wealth of information,

 

[Pupped]

Saying no to a job does not mean, in any way, that you’re afraid or not confident in yourself.

There’s a big difference between confidence and hubris.

 

[duanevalle22]

Well, I do agree with you that he should not leave yet.

But if you look at it, realistically, would you stay at your company just because it’s successful? And turn down a massive promotion, pay raise with full authority over that company?

Exactly.

 

[dieterbrock]

So, I’m not saying don’t go to a losing team. That would be silly. I’m saying don’t jump into a bad situation… meaning ownership and front office.
Again.. I point to Ben Johnson as an example.

The Bears ownership and front office have been a disaster, was certainly no better than Jacksonville or Washington, who Johnson turned down. Now they've all been to the playoffs so its amazing how quickly bad ownership/front office can be "cured" with a good HC and good QB play

 

[Allen2McVay]

The Bears ownership and front office have been a disaster, was certainly no better than Jacksonville or Washington, who Johnson turned down. Now they've all been to the playoffs so its amazing how quickly bad ownership/front office can be "cured" with a good HC and good QB play

Excellent point.
Another example would be the 2017 Rams.
McVay (quality head coach) comes-in, and helps immediately makes Goff a quality QB ... team success ... ownership and front office look pretty good.

 

[RamDino]

Excellent point.
Another example would be the 2017 Rams.
McVay (quality head coach) comes-in, and helps immediately makes Goff a quality QB ... team success ... ownership and front office look pretty good.

The whole organization gets credit for 2017. It was Demoff or Kroenke who decided to keep Snead after firing Fisher. Then it was Snead who hired Mcvay and brought in Whitworth, Robert Woods, John Sullivan, Sammy Watkins and also drafted Cooper Kupp. Just a great organization from top to bottom. It really is a great time to be a Rams fan!

 

[Pupped]

The Bears ownership and front office have been a disaster, was certainly no better than Jacksonville or Washington, who Johnson turned down. Now they've all been to the playoffs so its amazing how quickly bad ownership/front office can be "cured" with a good HC and good QB play

Yeah... none of that changes what I'm saying.

Every job is different, every job is coming at a different moment in time in different organizations. I'm not in those interviews and I don't know all the structural details of different orgs.

I'm saying that having the confidence to know a *specific* job isn't right for you is a good thing and not any kind of a negative.

And even terrible organizations can have times where they have a critical mass of talent and it may be worth it to take a shot... but, again.. every situation is different.