Cosell on T Greg Robinson: Not a Finished Product

[Elmgrovegnome]

How do you know it's a weakness?



Have you seen any evidence to say he can't?

Well you have no evidence that I can't pass block. Are you going to be happy if the Rams draft me?

 

[iced]

How do you know it's a weakness?

it's his #1 knock/question mark, and its been repeated everywhere. I'm shocked this is the first you've heard?

 

[Tron]

I'm not going to compare the two, but Pace was a little raw in pass pro when he was drafted. It was his second year when he stood out. Better than Robinson for sure maybe less polished than Matthews.
It's all about if a team thinks Robinson has the feet, quickness and desire to learn to play LT at a elite level, if they don't he's going to he's further down their board. It's all about upside with him. Worst he could ever be is a HOF guard.

Pace didn't allow a sack the last 2 seasons at Ohio State. So he wasn't even close to as raw as Robinson is in pass pro.

He could be an amazing guard, but so can later round prospects at guard.

 

[fearsomefour]

How do you know it's a weakness?



Have you seen any evidence to say he can't?

To me it appears he plays without great balance. He gets his hands outside the body a lot pass blocking and seems to reach and grab. I have no doubt Robinson can physically dominate so guys in the run game. I think he has plenty of work to do on technique and he is second to Matthews by a decent margin.
I would have him rated behind Matthews, Clowney and Watkins.

 

[Alan]

Username asking for proof of a negative:

"I have seen no evidence that Robinson can be a top pass protecting OLT."
Have you seen any evidence to say he can't?

Not a fair question IMO Username. You haven't seen any evidence that I can't pass protect either. Seeing evidence that you can do something is what's important. The rest is just hoping.

 

[CGI_Ram]

If we go tackle early; I'll be shocked if it's not Mathews. Fisher trusts those bloodlines.

 

[Yamahopper]

Pace didn't allow a sack the last 2 seasons at Ohio State. So he wasn't even close to as raw as Robinson is in pass pro.

He could be an amazing guard, but so can later round prospects at guard.

No he didn't but it wasn't a passing conf. either. He was known for pancaking players. The weak part of his game when he was drafted was pass pro. Tho it was better than most. And I don't care how good a player is in college the pros are a whole different thing.

 

[Tron]

No he didn't but it wasn't a passing conf. either. He was known for pancaking players. The weak part of his game when he was drafted was pass pro. Tho it was better than most. And I don't care how good a player is in college the pros are a whole different thing.

I agree the pro's are a whole different animal. Robinson is just to much of a worry for me personally to take him at #2.

 

[Yamahopper]

I agree the pro's are a whole different animal. Robinson is just to much of a worry for me personally to take him at #2.

I almost feel the same. If I was drafting I might pass on him. But If I had coach Boo sitting next to me and he said no worries I can get him to the HOF then I'd jump on Robinson.

 

[Stranger]

Either way, Coach Bo will help make him or Matthews a great player. But I still want Watkins over either of them. Unless, that is, we can get one of these top O types as well as Evans/Lee.

 

[RaminExile]

I'm wary of Robinson's weaknesses. Bends at the waist, stops his feet moving and is prone to holding penalties. Plus side? Great athlete - massively aggressive. I think Matthew's is a safer pick - Robinson MIGHT have better upside - and if there's a guy who can develop him its Paul Boudreau so I don't know. Glad its not my decision.

 

[Rockman]

How do you know it's a weakness?

You could ask that about every evaluation and opinion regarding the draft. Everyone is simple stating what they think is going to be. That's the fun in this.

 

[Tron]

I almost feel the same. If I was drafting I might pass on him. But If I had coach Boo sitting next to me and he said no worries I can get him to the HOF then I'd jump on Robinson.

Really wish we had a direct line to Boo to ask him what he thinks.

 

[Yamahopper]

Really wish we had a direct line to Boo to ask him what he thinks.

Be nice to have that. I really don't think he's the pick.

 

[Tron]

Be nice to have that. I really don't think he's the pick.

I agree, only way he is is if we trade back and everyone else has been selected already.

 

[Yamahopper]

I agree, only way he is is if we trade back and everyone else has been selected already.

If they do trade back which I'm not in favor of and feel like they get stuck with him then they screwed up. If they like him enough to take at 2 they should take him then. If he's their fourth choice and they settle for him wow.

 

[DR RAM]

This FO is about value, and they are the MOST transparent of any Ram's FO that I can ever remember. What I hear is that there are a lot of good players, and that we will remain flexible in this draft, as we have since Fisher and Snead have been here. All of these absolute opinions are becoming annoying to me.

I hate the NFL for pushing the draft back, it gives people too much time to think and speculate.... It is of my opinion that there are MANY ways to go in this draft, but value, and the long game is where we will go. So far this FO has done, what I believe, is in the best interest of the team. I have no reason to believe otherwise. Have we HIT on everybody??? Probably not, but it takes more than a couple years to figure that out, and NOBODY, hits on every body...nobody.

I love the Rams, and I love the direction that they are going. I believe that the Rams are trending UP!

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

No he didn't but it wasn't a passing conf. either. He was known for pancaking players. The weak part of his game when he was drafted was pass pro. Tho it was better than most. And I don't care how good a player is in college the pros are a whole different thing.

As years went on Pace was a better pass blocker than a run blocker. That whole line was geared more for pass blocking. The curren line is better at run blocking. They were bad at pass protecting, proven by the first 4 weeks. This time around they either need balance or better pass protection.

 

[DR RAM]

As years went on Pace was a better pass blocker than a run blocker. That whole line was geared more for pass blocking. The curren line is better at run blocking. They were bad at pass protecting, proven by the first 4 weeks. This time around they either need balance or better pass protection.

Both.

 

[Stranger]

This FO is about value, and they are the MOST transparent of any Ram's FO that I can ever remember. What I hear is that there are a lot of good players, and that we will remain flexible in this draft, as we have since Fisher and Snead have been here. All of these absolute opinions are becoming annoying to me.

I hate the NFL for pushing the draft back, it gives people too much time to think and speculate.... It is of my opinion that there are MANY ways to go in this draft, but value, and the long game is where we will go. So far this FO has done, what I believe, is in the best interest of the team. I have no reason to believe otherwise. Have we HIT on everybody??? Probably not, but it takes more than a couple years to figure that out, and NOBODY, hits on every body...nobody.

I love the Rams, and I love the direction that they are going. I believe that the Rams are trending UP!

My opinion is not absolute, it's just the only right one :cheers: