I'm keeping Everett and Harkey and letting Hemmingway and HIgbee fight for the last spot. I need a blocker.
Cory Harkey hopeful of finding fit in Rams' offense
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fearsomefour
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They are more athletic, which means potentially better.
Depends what the TE job is. If they are just pass catchers, the advantage of the TE is partly deluded. Running double TE sets to create a match up problem in the passing game makes sense IF they can block. The threat of the run has to be there. If a team goes dime because they see 2 WR, 2TE but really they are defending it like 4 WRs you have to be able to run it down their throat. If they stay in a base D 4/3 lets say, because there are two TEs there should be mismatches.
I'm sure the coaches can coach them up to the point of at least be solid run blockers, if not, you might as well run 4 WRs, in therory.
fearsomefour
Legend
I am more concerned with run blocking.
I would think in most cases on passing downs Higbee and certainly Everett will be going out, maybe a chip, but most times will be receivers.
But, they need to be able to run out of a two TE set to fully exploit the mismatches guys like Everett and Higbee can create.
Here's why Rams need Harkey.
TE's Everett and Higbee lined up on the right side, Mack takes both on and makes them look silly, splits them and gets to Goff and sacks him, laying him out on his back. Rams are lucky Goff could get up and make it back to the huddle.
That play alone shows how unready those two TE's are to depend upon. If Harkey had been out there, Mack would not have gotten to Goff like he did.
TE's Everett and Higbee lined up on the right side, Mack takes both on and makes them look silly, splits them and gets to Goff and sacks him, laying him out on his back. Rams are lucky Goff could get up and make it back to the huddle.
That play alone shows how unready those two TE's are to depend upon. If Harkey had been out there, Mack would not have gotten to Goff like he did.
A play that McVay said was a bad call by him. He said that "No TE is going to block Mack even if you give him help". Harkey wouldn't block Mack 1 on 1 that's just not happening. How hard would we laugh if another coach tried to block AD with 2 TE? It would be one of our biggest highlights of the game. Again I go back to one simple thing. Harkey has taken less snaps than the rest of the TE on the roster, even Wilson, and he's doing it with the 3rd team. He's so important that Harkey hasn't even taken a snap with Goff or the 1st team. Nobody seems to want to acknowledge that or that McVay isn't using him.
I respect your opinion OS, but I feel much better with Rams having a proven lead blocker for Gurley, a TE with vet experience that won't get schooled like a rookie will, and a proven blocker on the OL.
Higbee, Everett and Hemmingway are none of those (yet) and the Rams need at least one.,
Higbee, Everett and Hemmingway are none of those (yet) and the Rams need at least one.,
All I'm trying to say it what have we seen from McVay that makes you or antibody else think he feels the same? It's great to want a blocker on the roster like Harvey but has the head coach given the impression he values it?
Blocking is about want to....We will see in the next few weeks, who "want's to" block.
I agree OS, we haven't seen what McVay thinks. How many snaps they all get may not be much of an indicator just because one gets more snaps than another. I'm just saying out of 4 TE's, one of them has to be a reliable blocker, and the only one that is, is Harkey. Weather that fits into what McVay wants out of the TE's he keeps is yet to be seen. We don't know how many he plans to keep. 3? 4? 5?
Just going to have to wait til they cut down to 53.
Just going to have to wait til they cut down to 53.
Mack would make any two TE's blocking him look silly ...sheesh he makes tackles look silly
i posted this in another thread all gurleys run for the raiders game .... and while higbee isnt a road grading mauling run blocker .... i see want there ,,, just has to polish up his techniqueespecially at around 1.01 into the vid
Why would McVay keep Jeff Fisher favorite (Harkey) over McVay--Snead favorite (draft pick)Rodgers.
SteezyEndo
The Immaculate Exception
I like Harkey, he is a body already combat proven, he can block if needed. I too believe Hemingway and Higbee should duke out for the final spot, but I still wouldn't count out Wilson...I just feel like he is being overlooked because he is a nobody to most.
Personally I think Wilson has a better shot than Harkey of making the team.
SteezyEndo
The Immaculate Exception
I think everytime Wilson was out on the field, there were mismatches and that left Mike Thomas open a lot especially on those last drives before Thomas got ringed. That fumble recovery to by Wilson was impressive.
Here's my question: do you keep four tight ends or seven wide receivers? If it's four tight ends, Harkey stays. If not, it's likely that Sam Rogers will take his place. I feel that Everett, Higbee, and Hemingway are safe. I also feel that Rogers is safe, due to playing primarily fullback and getting a job with a four-man running back group.
As for me? I like the seven wide receivers. I love what Harkey brings to this team, but it's a numbers game. We're going to lose good players no matter what we do.
As for me? I like the seven wide receivers. I love what Harkey brings to this team, but it's a numbers game. We're going to lose good players no matter what we do.
SteezyEndo
The Immaculate Exception
I disagree, their presence is willy nilly. But hey everyone was on the Spruce train what happened?