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Kenny Britt agrees.Doesn't take the eyes of a former elite WR to see what's wrong here. Sammy shouldn't run lazy routes and needs to get his head around to look for the pass.
Basically, he needs to not take plays off.
Kenny Britt agrees.Doesn't take the eyes of a former elite WR to see what's wrong here. Sammy shouldn't run lazy routes and needs to get his head around to look for the pass.
Basically, he needs to not take plays off.
I tend to agree with Bonsignore here... two months for a third year player ought to be enough IMO.
Lunch pail.... maybe. But I'll take a receiver with Watkins type talent as long as he uses it. It may be a chicken and egg argument. Is he not getting the ball because he is not where he is supposed to be or not showing that talent? Or is he not getting the ball because Goff is young and not seeing him or trusting that the result will not be an INT? I don't know. I will say though that loafing on one route and flat out quitting on another is not a way to form trust. And if any of that is indeed a form of protest, that is about the worst way to get paid.Just give me a lunch pail WR who produces like a Issac Bruce and doesn't complain.
He can be on my team...
Watkins? Let's see how this pans out.
That was the second one in the game that he pulled up on and it was pretty obvious that he at least had a pretty good shot at catching that for a huge gainer. That can't go without mention.So, things are not what they may appear by seeing one second of the end of a play on tv.
If he is an URFA at the end of the season, do we still get a compensatory pick?They did not have that agreement with Buffalo, but the Rams made the deal factoring they would get some type of compensatory pick as well, if they did not resign him.
If true that he pulled up and saw the throw, knew the ball was coming, I would be shopping him. Don't want him, don't need him if that is his he plays.Lunch pail.... maybe. But I'll take a receiver with Watkins type talent as long as he uses it. It may be a chicken and egg argument. Is he not getting the ball because he is not where he is supposed to be or not showing that talent? Or is he not getting the ball because Goff is young and not seeing him or trusting that the result will not be an INT? I don't know. I will say though that loafing on one route and flat out quitting on another is not a way to form trust. And if any of that is indeed a form of protest, that is about the worst way to get paid.
That was the second one in the game that he pulled up on and it was pretty obvious that he at least had a pretty good shot at catching that for a huge gainer. That can't go without mention.
If he is an URFA at the end of the season, do we still get a compensatory pick?
I don't think that is the case. But he can't take plays off let alone two in one game where he was targeted.If true that he pulled up and saw the throw, knew the ball was coming, I would be shopping him. Don't want him, don't need him if that is his he plays.
How to prove it?I don't think that is the case. But he can't take plays off let alone two in one game where he was targeted.
Well I think you can simply see him slow up. If you are saying prove he knew it was coming his way and did it to make a statement, I agree. You may not be able to prove it but I think the coaches would know - none the less. I don't think he knew it was coming his way - or at least I hope that is the case. Not sure anyone would want to sign him if that's the case.How to prove it?
I'm just saying if it was provable and it's my call he's gone. But that's just me.
This is a call for McVay to make, And he will
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Right.Well I think you can simply see him slow up. If you are saying prove he knew it was coming his way and did it to make a statement, I agree. You may not be able to prove it but I think the coaches would know - none the less. I don't think he knew it was coming his way - or at least I hope that is the case. Not sure anyone would want to sign him if that's the case.
Looked to me like he was clearing out the underneath zone and didn't think he'd get the call as he was being doubled.
Moral of the story is to never assume.
I just can't agree, you always have to feel you are open, play to get open, then assume the ball will come to you. No matter what. Plays break down, coverages are changed. Happens all the time.Looked to me like he was clearing out the underneath zone and didn't think he'd get the call as he was being doubled.
Moral of the story is to never assume.
Well, then we agree.I just can't agree, you always have to feel you are open, play to get open, then assume the ball will come to you. No matter what. Plays break down, coverages are changed. Happens all the time.
I'm assuming he's a professional, and he should know that, instead of playing like a slow decoy, and not even looking for the ball, nor making an effort to catch it.
Yeah, I think he tried to be sensitive to Watkins, but inferred it was his fault.Well, then we agree.
I, too, said he should never assume he's just a decoy.
I think McVay said something to that effect too.
No there was definitely a safety that came over and at worst it’s a incomplete pass. Looking at the play again I was kinda happy he quit on the route because it bought the safety to him as well and got the safety out of his position. If Watkins run the route full out its a good chance that it’s pick at best it becomes a 50/50 ballI know....because he quit on the play lol. But I disagree, if the finished the route and was looking the right way he had a TD, the ball landed a couple of yards from him. He had his man beat and there was no help.
The difference between those elite WRs and Watkins is a coach and QB that feed them the ball. Look at the year Antonio Brown is having Julio Jones and even Beckham AJ green all those WRs are elite but look at what’s going on with their QB play. That’s watkins entire career. So yes in my esteem opinion Watkins is a elite talent even if his numbers hasn’t shown itWell, based on actual production, Watkins IMO, is not elite.
Frankly, I don't even know why we're having this discussion... we're back to some term coined by ESPN or some other crackpot media outlet... "Elite WR".
Now, "elite" means "type of catches he makes his route running ability his ability to run after the catch"? OK, quantify that and get back to me.
His "numbers", as compared to his peers, is not "elite" (extenuating circumstances previously noted nothwithstanding).