Arch Manning and Matt Stafford: Rams succession plan

[dieterbrock]

You have no idea what the negotiations were, but sure how I would assume both sides have no problem with going a year at a time right now. Hell they are essentially doing that with Stafford.

You keep talking in circles.
Exactly, the Rams plan is to look at backup QB on a year to year. They arent committed to Garoppolo long term, if they did, they'd have signed him to loner than a 1 year deal

 

[Merlin]

Is it possible you're just engaging in a lot of wishful thinking?

Highest probability is that our QB2 is in fact a QB2.

 

[Mojo Ram]

More bright side on our Garappolo…he doesn’t have a ton of mileage for a 33 yr old QB.

 

[dieterbrock]

More bright side on our Garappolo…he doesn’t have a ton of mileage for a 33 yr old QB.

The Patriot and Niner stink is just way too strong for me to make an unbiased eval of the guy

 

[PhillyRam]

The Patriot and Niner stink is just way too strong for me to make an unbiased eval of the guy

True, you are biased and it shows. I am not saying he should be the starter next yr if Stafford hangs it up. Just saying I can see it as a definite possibility for him to be the guy for a year or two until they can develop a kid, or find another high value vet castoff.

 

[dieterbrock]

True, you are biased and it shows. I am not saying he should be the starter next yr if Stafford hangs it up. Just saying I can see it as a definite possibility for him to be the guy for a year or two until they can develop a kid, or find another high value vet castoff.

Glad you do, but the Rams dont.
Otherwise he wouldnt be on a 1 year deal.
My bias has nothing to do with the common sense of the situation that you fail to grasp. If the Rams thought of him in any way as a successor of any type, he wouldnt be on a 1 year deal. You seriously embarrass yourself with the lack of logic here

 

[PhillyRam]

Glad you do, but the Rams dont.
Otherwise he wouldnt be on a 1 year deal.
My bias has nothing to do with the common sense of the situation that you fail to grasp. If the Rams thought of him in any way as a successor of any type, he wouldnt be on a 1 year deal. You seriously embarrass yourself with the lack of logic here

There is no reason at this point for either side to go beyond a 1 yr deal....especially Garoppolo if he wants to be a starter. Why lock yourself into 2 yr deal if there is a chance Stafford plays 2 more years? You are placing way too much on the length of the contract. Both parties need to agree.

 

[Dodgersrf]

The Patriot and Niner stink is just way too strong for me to make an unbiased eval of the guy

Throw in the fact that he’s only good for 9 games a season….no thank you.

 

[Steve808]

Umm… maybe just one against Brady

I don't consider that a choke. The Rams never had the lead in super bowl 53. I consider that a learning experience as McVay was a young head coach and only 38 years old.

 

[dieterbrock]

There is no reason at this point for either side to go beyond a 1 yr deal....especially Garoppolo if he wants to be a starter. Why lock yourself into 2 yr deal if there is a chance Stafford plays 2 more years? You are placing way too much on the length of the contract. Both parties need to agree.

Are you familiar with NFL contracts?
Vet 2 year deals are quite common when teams see a potential future in a QB.
I'm just talkin common practice and sense, and you only have your opinion
As I said repeatedly, they could have offered a 2 year deal with 2nd year no/low guarantee, as is done in countless other vet QB deals. Gives same money as he gets now, and keeps him in play next year if they want. They didnt choose that route
Garoppolo himself said he was offered more money and more years but knows his role and like California
Sneed said they need a young QB and will target one
Those are the tea leaves which suggest the Rams dont see him long term
Now if Bennett continues to show the progress that he showed last night, it further emphasizes the tea leaves

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I read that Manning is staying in school through 2026. I wonder if the Falcons ended up stinking, would he change his mind.

 

[muggmeister]

I have wondered whether Trevor Lawrence might be available after the season. I will throw another crazy one at you. Could Caleb Williams be available to be fixed by Sean if things go sideways in Chicago?

I have seen zero evidence that Caleb will develop into a bona-fide star QB. I think he found out pretty quick that the backyard run around style doesn't work against these levels of athletes. Even in college I never saw a QB that actually played within the framework of the system. Every fucking play with him looks like he ad-libs to the play. Plus he's not that damn accurate, not sure that even McVay could fix him. Lawrence on the other hand, McVay could mold him into a champion I believe.

 

[muggmeister]

Agree pretty much with this.

I'd call their floor 6-11, ceiling 9-8.

They do play the Aints and Kittens twice, I just don't think they're very good, period. I think they're pick is gonna be closer to top 3-5 than anything past 15.

 

[muggmeister]

About the "where will the Rams be and how high will they be able to move, if they are going to draft a QB next year"........

Teams that probably won't be drafting a QB next year:

(20) Tennessee, NY Giants, Chicago, Washington, New England, Atlanta, Minnesota, Denver, Green Bay, Philadelphia, Buffalo, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Houston, Kansas City, LA Chargers, Tampa Bay, Detroit, Dallas, San Francisco.

Teams who may be looking to draft a QB next year.
(5) Jacksonville, Carolina, Seattle, Arizona, Miami

Teams that probably will be looking to draft a QB next year:

(6) New Orleans, NY Jets, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Indianapolis, Las Vegas

So there could be 11 teams looking to possibly draft a QB next year. 12, if the Rams are also in the market, which seems to be the consensus of Rams fans. One (Jacksonville) is without a first round pick. So of those other 10 teams, who has a good chance to be #1, #2 and #3? I don't think Pittsburgh because they've never had a losing season under Tomlin. I dislike Pete Carroll but I don't think Las Vegas will be top 3 in the draft. Likewise for Seattle, Arizona and Miami. Steichen in Indy is coaching for his life this year but they could still suck big time.

So by my estimation, that leaves Carolina, the Jets, the Saints, Cleveland and Indy as possible candidates for the top 3 spots. Cleveland has 2 first round picks. In my mind, that makes it almost impossible for the Rams to get ahead of all 5 of them to draft Manning. But maybe the #2 QB? Or maybe none at all if Stafford commits to 2026, which would be a dream scenario coupled with Arch Manning deciding to stay in school for 2026. The Rams could trade one of their #1's away for a 2027 #1 (or both and end up with three #1's in 2027) and possibly be in the drivers seat for A.M.

I am muggmeister, currently running for Rams GM and I approve of this message. Like your thoughts here.

 

[muggmeister]

Manning is gonna be a 2027 draft guy. Book it. He would have to have a 2010 Cam Newton type season to leave, and I don’t see that happening. Number of snaps/experience has been the biggest determining factor in how well a college QB translates to the NFL over the last 10-15 years. Arch has 2 starts against bottom tier competition. He should try and at least get 25-30 starts under his belt.

He's been groomed for the NFL since he quit wearing diapers. Normally I agree that a college QB needs to 2 full seasons to get them prepared but this might be an exception to the rule. I don't think the lights will be too bright and he will light up college this year. I still think it's very possible that might go pro next year, especially if Texas were to win the natty.

 

[PhillyRam]

Are you familiar with NFL contracts?
Vet 2 year deals are quite common when teams see a potential future in a QB.
I'm just talkin common practice and sense, and you only have your opinion
As I said repeatedly, they could have offered a 2 year deal with 2nd year no/low guarantee, as is done in countless other vet QB deals. Gives same money as he gets now, and keeps him in play next year if they want. They didnt choose that route
Garoppolo himself said he was offered more money and more years but knows his role and like California
Sneed said they need a young QB and will target one
Those are the tea leaves which suggest the Rams dont see him long term
Now if Bennett continues to show the progress that he showed last night, it further emphasizes the tea leaves

He would have to have accepted a 2 yr deal fir back uo $$. It would not in his best interest to accept a contract to be a back up at this point. As it is he could have gotten more to start somewhere else as there were multiple positions available this past offseason.

And right back at you in terms of espousing an opinion of what either side would have offered or demanded. They both agreed on one year as it makes sense for both sides at this point. Circumstances may change in 2026 and what they then have to offer and what he may accept will change.

 

[Merlin]

The Patriot and Niner stink is just way too strong for me to make an unbiased eval of the guy

Yes and I have the same problem admittedly. However I think you and I have the right of it as it pertains to what Bennett's emergence potentially means.

Nobody thinks Bennett is anything more than a QB2. In this moment, though, and given the pieces on the chessboard, his potential emergence (which for the record would be defined as he continues playing like this through the rest of the preseason sched) has the potential to unlock a move of Garoppolo.

Rams have until the trade deadline to cash in on Garoppolo. When another team inevitably suffers an injury and ends up in QB hell for this season, and are desperate to find an answer, they're going to look at options like him, Cousins, etc. And of those options Jimmy is very high on the list. So he will inevitably get attention.

If that happens everyone wins. Jimmy wins a starting job. Bennett wins a backup role. Some team wins a QB. Rams win another pick in a draft where they may have plans to move up for a QB.

 

[dieterbrock]

He would have to have accepted a 2 yr deal fir back uo $$. It would not in his best interest to accept a contract to be a back up at this point. As it is he could have gotten more to start somewhere else as there were multiple positions available this past offseason.

And right back at you in terms of espousing an opinion of what either side would have offered or demanded. They both agreed on one year as it makes sense for both sides at this point. Circumstances may change in 2026 and what they then have to offer and what he may accept will change.

Yes it made sense for the Rams to sign him to a 1 year deal, because that is all they are committed to him for now
The idea that he's in their plans past '25 at this point is absurd

 

[OldSchool]

Yes it made sense for the Rams to sign him to a 1 year deal, because that is all they are committed to him for now
The idea that he's in their plans past '25 at this point is absurd

Absurd is likely a stronger word that reality would seem to dictate but that is your opinion on the Rams feelings towards Jimmy. IMO he may not be part of their plan other than the vet to guide a young QB or the fall back plan if they don't get that young guy. That's still part of their plan but it's not the focal point of their plan. Just my dos pesos.