Alaric Arrested

[RhodyRams]

it's kind of like leaving a bucket under a leaky pipe after you fixed it... if it leaks again then a plan is already in place

 

[bubbaramfan]

I hear ya bro. I'm uneasy too. Statute of limitations is a anvil hanging over AJ and the Rams head, jerodizing Rams season. Do something or end the matter so all can move forward.
They,ve had enough time,keeping this matter open is pure bullshyt

 

[Memento]

I'd love for the NFL to please just pull off the bandage/tourniquet and tell us if/when A-Jax is suspended, and if he is, for how long. The sooner we get it over with, the sooner we can get to the next step. The wait is fucking killing me.

 

[HitStick]

Strange that the NFL "automatically" suspends any player who enters a diversion program.

I wonder what the hell is the logic behind this.

Admission of Guilt

 

[jrry32]

You would certainly know better than me. Do you know if this would be one where it would not be required? Or does it just depend on too many variables?

Based on the reporting, yes, he participates in diversion in lieu of them filing charges. If he completes the program and stays out of trouble, they won't file charges.

 

[jrry32]

Admission of Guilt

Technically speaking, this type of diversion program does not involve an admission of guilt.

 

[Ramstien]

If you go into a diversion program, it is an admission that there is a problem while trying to avoid the risks that could be involved with a trial.

 

[RamFan503]

My issue is the Statute of limitations " clause. How fu king long is that going to be?

I believe one of our attorney members said it was likely 1 year.

 

[jrry32]

If you go into a diversion program, it is an admission that there is a problem while trying to avoid the risks that could be involved with a trial.

If you're arrested for a crime and they offer you the choice of going to trial and fighting it or diversion and them not filing charges, I can't think of many people who are going to turn down diversion. Why would I risk a conviction if I can avoid charges entirely without an admission of guilt so long as I stay out of trouble?

 

[majrleaged]

That's where I'm confused. No charges are being filed, so why would Jackson enter a diversion program?

Exactly. It’s just Foolio stiring shit up

 

[TSFH Fan]

Los Angeles has a diversion program for cases prior to the filing of charges.

Los Angeles City Attorney’s Office spokesman Ivor Pine confirmed in a statement to The Associated Press on Monday that Jackson’s case has been assigned for a pre-filing diversion available to eligible individuals. The City Attorney Hearing is an alternative to misdemeanor criminal prosecution.

Though charges will not be filed against Jackson at this time, the case remains open and can be re-evaluated if there are more developments.

Rams left tackle Jackson assigned to pre-filing diversion and can avoid domestic violence charge - myMotherLode.com

Los Angeles Rams left tackle Alaric Jackson, who was arrested on June 9 on suspicion of felony domestic violence, has the opportunity to avoid criminal charges. Los Angeles City Attorney’s Office spokesman Ivor Pine confirmed in a statement to The Associated Press that Jackson’s case has been...

mymotherlode.com

The City Attorney Hearing Program is a diversion program created in 1974 to give eligible individuals a second chance. Instead of facing formal criminal charges in court, individuals are offered an opportunity to resolve their case informally through a private meeting with a Hearing Officer.

participating in a hearing is completely voluntary, but refusing to participate may result in the case being filed in criminal court.

You are not required to participate, but declining the opportunity could increase the likelihood that formal charges are filed against you in criminal court.

City Attorney Hearings in Los Angeles | What You Need to Know

If you’ve received a letter from the Los Angeles City Attorney’s Office inviting you to a hearing, you may have many questions about what it means and how it could impact your future. City Attorney Hearings are an important part of Los Angeles’s approach to handling certain low-level misdemeanor...

www.lacriminaldefenseattorney.com

 

[El Chapo Jr]

That's where I'm confused. No charges are being filed, so why would Jackson enter a diversion program?

Probably being offered as a carrot so they don't file charges? Not saying that as a good thing. Once again, don't trust the NFL to not suspend him.

 

[XXXIVwin]

Technically speaking, this type of diversion program does not involve an admission of guilt.

I would imagine that the majority of the time, a person is guilty of "something" and the diversion program is a sensible way to avoid formal charges. But what about cases where someone is wrongly accused? Surely there are some who are wrongly accused and accept the diversion program because they don't want to be wrongly convicted.

That's why I question the NFL's logic behind assuming a diversion program is automatically an "admission of guilt." Seems contrary to the American notion of innocent until proven guilty.

What's your take on this, @jrry32 ?

 

[fearsomefour]

Priority number one next offseason should be finding a replacement for Jackson.

 

[dpjax]

If there is a suspension, I hope at the very least this brings it from a crippling 6 game suspension down to a manageable two game suspension.

 

[jrry32]

I would imagine that the majority of the time, a person is guilty of "something" and the diversion program is a sensible way to avoid formal charges. But what about cases where someone is wrongly accused? Surely there are some who are wrongly accused and accept the diversion program because they don't want to be wrongly convicted.

That's why I question the NFL's logic behind assuming a diversion program is automatically an "admission of guilt." Seems contrary to the American notion of innocent until proven guilty.

What's your take on this, @jrry32 ?

I'm not a criminal defense attorney, but if I were and my client was offered prefiling diversion without an admission of guilt, I'd likely tell them to take it, even if they were innocent. I'm only advising them not to if we have the evidence to conclusively prove they didn't do it (and in that case, one would hope that the prosecutors would do the right thing) or if there are conditions that will be extremely difficult for them to meet during the relevant time period.

 

[RamFan503]

I'm not a criminal defense attorney, but if I were and my client was offered prefiling diversion without an admission of guilt, I'd likely tell them to take it, even if they were innocent. I'm only advising them not to if we have the evidence to conclusively prove they didn't do it (and in that case, one would hope that the prosecutors would do the right thing) or if there are conditions that will be extremely difficult for them to meet during the relevant time period.

What if they were to face the loss of millions and a potential multimillion dollar contract down the road? In AJs case, it’s a real concern.

 

[HitStick]

I'm not a criminal defense attorney, but if I were and my client was offered prefiling diversion without an admission of guilt, I'd likely tell them to take it, even if they were innocent. I'm only advising them not to if we have the evidence to conclusively prove they didn't do it (and in that case, one would hope that the prosecutors would do the right thing) or if there are conditions that will be extremely difficult for them to meet during the relevant time period.

Well, yes, to the normal person that would be the smart call, but in the actual contract it is grounds for a suspension. I don’t think people are calling it traditional admission of guilt, but rather that’s how the NFL views diversion programs

 

[snackdaddy]

I hope the Rams have some inside info on what the NFL is planning. I'd hate for the Rams to think its not gonna be bad. Then boom! 8 game suspension. Right before the season. That would pretty shitty if you ask me.

 

[AZRams4Life]

I'm not a criminal defense attorney, but if I were and my client was offered prefiling diversion without an admission of guilt, I'd likely tell them to take it, even if they were innocent. I'm only advising them not to if we have the evidence to conclusively prove they didn't do it (and in that case, one would hope that the prosecutors would do the right thing) or if there are conditions that will be extremely difficult for them to meet during the relevant time period.

I did prosecution and criminal defense. Oftentimes diversion was the right move, especially to avoid any admission of guilt or prosecution altogether. This was especially important in matters where then accused was a member of the military (I practiced in a military heavy community) and conviction for any DV related incident had serious consequences which typically included being chaptered out. Dealing with the NFL is a major difference since they clearly have their own set of rules. Based on the limited information I have, the likely advice would be to wait out the Statute of Limitations because entering diversion could (and likely would) have immediate consequences.