El Chapo Jr
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That's definitely a bad sign that he wasn't in shape. Aw well not our problem hahaha
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It's funny watching that vid, how those guys know about as much as we do which is jack shit.
However all that aside I would bet that the perennial pro bowl players from the top of the order will be Love and Styles.
Love's got so much quality in his game that unless he's completely misused he's a safe bet to be felt from day one for whoever takes him.
And Styles is more than a big freak athlete playing the position. He's not just a chase backer, as he routinely on film stacks and sheds linemen to make plays, so as he matures into his prime of his playing years someone's going to get one excellent stud to anchor the middle of their defense.
Honestly Styles is the one player who I'd move up for in this draft, given that I've seen him go outside the very top group. Because the Rams need a target to slide into that 8 range ish in order to move up as they're not going to surrender their 2027 first rounder. It isn't likely Styles gets that low of course. In fact I'd say there's no chance, but you never know with a draft.
The 10th pick ... not 9th.
Lawrence has always been Humongous (in the 340-350 range), so I don't know if he was gaining weight, or was simply not in as good of shape. Just several local sports media types (example would be Boomer Esiason) noted that he did not appear to be in top-shape in the Giants' 2025 Training Camp.
As far as declining skills, I also don't know. Lawrence was dominant from 2022-2024.
Most of what I noted was merely speculation from local New York media, including reporters that cover the Giants daily from training camp through the season (Jordan Raanan is another example ... has been on ESPN).
Lawrence's desire to be paid top-DL-$ has been reported for over a year. Hs recent trade request was new.
I think as the season wears on they're going to find that Dexter Lawrence is "resigned"....and weary.
I can only guess that this is Cincinnati's way of going all in and they think a declining nose tackle can pick up enough steam towards the end of his career to get them there.
Yeah... this was a beyond stupid trade for the Bengals. I understand if they didn't like their options at 10 and a motivated Lawrence is probably far, far better than any DT in this draft but this trade makes zero sense for a player entering the last phase of his career on the apparent decline who wants a new contract. They almost certainly could've gotten a good young player on a rookie contract, but whatever. Keep wasting Burrow's career, we'll take him off your hands when he pulls a Stafford and gets tired of carrying a losing franchise.
Jerry trading up for a RB and ignoring his D is a very real possibility when you look at the stupid moves he's made.
12intheBox
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Dude's face looks like he just did up an eight ball in the locker room.
God I hope so. I'd love to see Trader Les move us down where we can get value with the pick that fits.
That's really interesting. And yet I still don't like Allar. No matter how I slice it I just can't get past the fact he still has shit mechanics. If he had that drive you want he almost surely would have shown some improvement with his feet.
He'll go before the other QB2 types and projects that litter this year's field. Hope we don't take him, but if we do it means McVay feels he's got the desire and faculties upstairs.
WestCoastRam
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They have so many needs, can't rule out pass rush, corner, WR... if a trade up happens, I'd imagine pass rusher though given the spot.
I would love a defensive draft. Slide down to add another pick, add a big ass snot bubblin NT and an ILB, and still have room to add an OL and WR.
Target range in this draft is the early middle I think. Where you get best value for your selections in this class.
As it pertains to the late rounds I have two hopes:
1. That we find a returner for special teams. This is so overdue it's ridiculous.
2. That if we have not taken a QB we take Pavia. He has no chance to start at this level between his size and iffy arm, but I'd love to see that competitive little fucker in preseason. And he'd probably give the offense a shot in the arm coming off the bench, not to mention he's capable of spelling a running QB for the scout team.
1. That we find a returner for special teams. This is so overdue it's ridiculous.
2. That if we have not taken a QB we take Pavia. He has no chance to start at this level between his size and iffy arm, but I'd love to see that competitive little fucker in preseason. And he'd probably give the offense a shot in the arm coming off the bench, not to mention he's capable of spelling a running QB for the scout team.
I agree. I'd be PISSED if the Rams made this trade personally. If you are desperate for a DT that has some pass rush juice (which he did not last year) trade down and grab a guy like Faulk (IMO can play DT), McDonald, P. Woods, or a personal crush Miller. I'd much rather trade way back, acquire more premium picks and take my shot on Woods then trade for and PAY (28m extension) an older DT who did not produce in the most recent season.
WestCoastRam
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FWIW, it's considered a pretty terrible draft for DT. I think the consensus are that all those guys are pretty mid. Faulk playing inside I can't comment on though since I havent' watched him at all.
All of that may be true, but if each player delivers, then both teams should be happy.
I was looking more at the implications that maybe this draft isn’t all that.
Possibly, cincy has adopted the Rams’ way of thinking and making damn sure they get someone talented and capable of having an instant effect for the 1rst round pick.
I was also looking at the g-men and THEIR angle. They have a new HC and two picks inside the top 10 could be a great way to jump start the new regime. They can grab a day 1 starter on both sides of the ball. If they both hit…
Barion Brown ain’t much at WR but I could see him becoming famous as a return specialist based on how many TDs he scored at the college level
Well Lawrence was mid last year also. Doubt he gets better with age. Faulk has a very high ceiling and is a hell of a lot cheaper. I would bet that he is a least in the range of as good as Lawrence in 2025 as a rookie. Really just hate the trade for the Bengals (and us).
Is it? Memphis, something tells me that you don't even believe in the argument you're making here, that statistics are a good way of judging how polished or skilled a NFL QB prospect is. Let me be clear, Nussmeier has his warts too. That's why at best, we're talking about him as an end of Day 2 prospect. But is he more polished than Allar? Absolutely. Sees the field and reads defenses much better.
But since you've gone the statistics route, here are some other QBs:
Brock Purdy
993/1467
67.7%
12,170 yards
8.3 YPA
81 TDs
33 Ints
151.1 Passer Rating
1177 rushing yards
19 rushing TDs
Justin Fields
423/618
68.4%
5701 yards
9.2 YPA
67 TDs
9 Ints
178.8 Passer Rating
1133 rushing yards
19 rushing TDs
Sam Howell
713/1117
63.8%
10,283 yards
9.2 YPA
92 TDs
23 Ints
164.2 Passer Rating
1009 rushing yards
17 rushing TDs
Hendon Hooker
632/944
66.9%
8974 yards
9.5 YPA
80 TDs
12 Ints
172.2 Passer Rating
2079 rushing yards
25 rushing TDs
Which one of these guys was the most polished and skilled?
And let's compare Drew Allar to another Penn State QB prospect:
Drew Allar
633/1002
63.2%
7402 yards
7.4 YPA
61 TDs
13 Ints
142.7 Passer Rating
736 rushing yards
12 rushing TDs
Trace McSorley
720/1215
59.3%
9899 yards
8.1 YPA
77 TDs
25 Ints
144.5 Passer Rating
1697 rushing yards
30 rushing TDs
What do all these numbers tell us, Memphis? I mean, Trace McSorley was an absolutely terrible QB, yet he put up respectable numbers at Penn State. Hmm...
El Chapo Jr
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There's the white boy from Iowa that could be had late as a kick returner. He's a fast lil spunky bastid, I'd take a late round flyer on him.
View: https://youtu.be/Pe-8ZgoV_Mw?si=B5gcVwwfqJ70wbAT
Who do you have in mind? We may have to move up or down from 13 if we want impact defense unless you trust McCoy's medicals.
WestCoastRam
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View: https://x.com/BenjaminSolak/status/2045666817645937081
Yeah, I may be wrong, we'll see. Again, I like the player, like the move for Bengals - if they had just gotten something back - I think it would have been a very good savvy move. Right now, overpay but directionally the right move.
Again, can't comment on Faulk, thought he was and end and not DT. Lawrence can do things from NT (not just the other DT alignments) that many guys can't - part of the reason you get him.