[Twitter] Warren Sharp -- The Super Bowl was lost before the game started

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I know teams self scout when they have time, like a bye week, but I think successful teams need to have someone like this on staff (IF THEY DON'T ALREADY)....to see trends and numbers laid out so clearly that a game plan can then be devised for maximum success....especially to be ready with a plan B or even plan C quickly....not wait until halftime...

Exactly. Some sort of quality control coach who can get in McVay's ear during the game. And I want a guy up in the booth with a bird's eye view to let him know that the D is doing.

Thankfully, McVay seemed humbled by Sunday's outcome, rather than defiant like Martz was when his team lost to the Patriots. And he has a whole offseason to look at this stuff.

One marker will definitely be when we face the Bears next year, who gave the Patriots the blueprint for what they did.
 

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Correct you guys.

And yeah @Elmgrovegnome it was a dramatic title, but the ananlysis was very good.



I hope you are right, and I'll be patient because he is a young coach. What makes me nervous is that he has done this before, said in a post game presser it was his fault and that he has to do better. Then he makes the same mistakes. And I understand it's Belichick and he is tremendously experienced in post season play and in particular the Super Bowl...........but McVay also had two weeks to prepare and a 30 minute halftime.

He could have adjusted rather than waiting for a big play to hit. I've always said this..........hope is a bad plan.



They scored 3 points. It was miles away from working LOL.


Obviously his plan failed.
Nobody is arguing that.
Still, you cant deny that for the vast majority of that game, McVay needed one big play to take the lead.

Yeah the offense sucked but the game dictates a lot. The Pats were held in check and we were in a great position to get a drive or just a big play and have the lead all the way until the phantom hold against Sully.

Nobody disagrees the offense was awful but maybe without Kupp and Gurley, it didn't have to be great, just make a play or two.
If Cooks pulls it in, or if Gronk doesn't, its a different game.

I doubt we would be discrediting a 6-3 win. We would be celebrating the best defensive SB and our young HC who found a way to win...etc.
 

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It was disappointing because he went through the same thing in the bears game. There's no way i thought he would let it happen again. But then again there were plays to be made in the game and the players didn't get it done. Tough to tell what to make of it. If Goff hit those open wrs early on 3rd downs who knows what the flow on effect would have been. If the oline blocked better would Goff have calmed down earlier. We'll never know.

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Yeah, I'm hoping the combination of him replaying this game over and over, and other coaches and league guys/family, and mentors also give him advice and point out things that he missed.

Failure is the best teacher after all.

I hope you are right, and I'll be patient because he is a young coach. What makes me nervous is that he has done this before, said in a post game presser it was his fault and that he has to do better. Then he makes the same mistakes. And I understand it's Belichick and he is tremendously experienced in post season play and in particular the Super Bowl...........but McVay also had two weeks to prepare and a 30 minute halftime.

He could have adjusted rather than waiting for a big play to hit. I've always said this..........hope is a bad plan.

Yeah, the lack of adjustments is what worries me as well, but I trust he's smart enough to figure it out.
 

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Mike Martz 2.0

Now let’s pray he doesn’t stay as pig-headed as Martz.

The analysis is spot-on. Rams should have won by 3 touchdowns. Epic failure in game plan and coaching. I was worried about Wade, but he stepped up big time. Shame it was wasted.
 

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McVay didn't get to where he is (youngest coach ever wins NFC in year 2) by being stupid.
He didn't get here by being arrogant or pigheaded or any of the other horseshit some bitter people want to project on to him.

He got here because he is smart, hungry and very fucking good.

If anyone believes he can't or won't learn from his 1st Super Bowl appearance, I got nothing for ya other than good luck and I hope you get the help you need.
 

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Los Angeles Rams were doomed in Super Bowl 53 from the start
by Henry Petzold 2/9/2019

https://ramblinfan.com/2019/02/08/los-angeles-rams-ndamukong-suh-consider-one-more-year/

On Jan. 20, 2019, the NFC Championship between the Los Angeles Rams and the New Orleans Saints was played in New Orleans, Louisiana. The assigned head official to this game was Bill Vinovich.

At the time, the Rams were 0-8 in games officiated by Vinovich. Nearly 10,000 fans signed a petition asking the NFL to remove Vinovich from officiating the game, while Saints fans were feeling giddy. Of course, the game did not go as the Saints had anticipated, especially that one controversial call on cornerback Nickel Robey-Coleman in what is now the famous pass interference “non-call” on wide receiver Tommylee Lewis towards the end of the game.

Later on, the Rams won the game in overtime. Lawsuits were filed to either reverse the outcome or replay the game from the time the “non-call” penalty occurred, which obviously didn’t happen.

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell did not address the matter in person for 10 days, and addressed it on the Wednesday leading up to the Super Bowl, creating a major black eye for the league.

The dye was cast for the Rams!

The most anticipated Super Bowl Sunday between the Rams and New England Patriots was played on Feb. 3, 2019 in Atlanta, Georgia. This game was a rematch of Super Bowl 36 where the Tom Brady/Bill Belichick dynasty had started, when the Patriots beat the two-touchdown favorites, St. Louis Rams, 20-17.

The NFL official assigned to SB LIII was John Parry. The Rams were 8-0 in games officiated by Parry. Parry was also the NFL official involved in the famous “Deflategate” scandal involving Brady and the Patriots, in which they were penalized by forfeiting a first-round draft pick in the NFL Draft.

Also, the Patriots were 9-5 on games officiated by Parry. The Rams were feeling giddy.

Super Bowl 53 started with the Patriots on offense. Brady threw an interception on their first drive. On their second drive, the Patriots quickly ran for a first down, but, then the Rams’ defense took over to the point that there was a feeling of, “Oh my goodness, Los Angeles is going to win this game due to their play on the defensive side of the football.”

Enter Robey-Coleman again, as it is second and long when the cornerback tackles Patriots running back Rex Burkhead for a loss. Next, it is 3rd and 18 deep in Patriots territory, but, wait, Parry throws the flag and calls for a personal foul penalty Dante Fowler, who was not involved in the play.

In a very confusing turn of events, Gene Steratore, CBS on-call retired NFL referee stated in the broadcast that Robey-Coleman (not Fowler) had impeded the running back “before he was able to start/maintain possession.”

The question here was, of course, if a fumble had occurred, then the play would have been alright?

Obviously, a very questionable call by Parry. The Patriots got a cheap first down. The real effect on the Rams was thwarting their defensive and possibly offensive momentum, if they got the ball back in good field position, after the Patriots punt. Luckily, New England did not score on that drive.

The game see-sawed until the fourth quarter: The score was 3-3 when the Rams got the ball at their own seven-yard line. The Rams put a drive together, and even Tony Romo said “they are feeling it.”

With over 11 minutes to go in the game, Todd Gurley ran for 13 yards to the New England 42-yard line. Parry threw the flag for holding on the Rams center John Sullivan. Romo looking at the replay said “not a call I would make in that specific case,” but it still resulted in the Rams seeing a 1st and 20.

Another referee Parry “momentum killer” for the Rams.

The Patriots scored on their next drive and the game was now 10-3.

The Rams got the ball back at their own 25-yard line. They drove to the Patriots 27-yard line, with 4:30 minutes left to play. Quarterback Jared Goff lobbed the ball to wide receiver Brandin Cooks, who grabbed the ball with his right hand, but couldn’t wrap the ball with his left hand, as the safety replacing Patrick Chung (broken arm), Duron Harmon, clearly held Cooks, but nothing was called.

Another incomplete pass and no call to help the Rams, as Romo even commented how it was a “perfect pass” by Goff, yet Cooks was clearly held.

Between the offense being in some sort of funk throughout the contest along with the poor officiating at times, the Rams seemed to be doomed from the beginning in Super Bowl 53, and it was painful to watch.
 

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It’s easy to be an expert when the game is over...just a thought lol. All the “experts” have all the answers now.

True. It's easy after the game to say this and that.
However, There is zero excuse for Goff to hold the ball that long with wide open Brandon Cooks, and THEN float the ball. THAT play could easily have changed the outcome of the superbowl.
Goff's "sillyness" on that particular play is the only question I seriously have as to .... WHY? Why why why? Even a marginal QB gets that ball out on time and on the mark. And Goff is above marginal. I'm so confused.
 

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The title of this guy's tweet is overdramatic. The game wasn't over before it began, McVay just didn't make adjustment until too late.

Sean had a plan and wanted to stick with it as long as he could. Sure, he waited too long. But maybe he figured the Patriots would be planning on the12 personnel since he used it more often, with success in the playoffs. He might have thought he'd catch New England off guard and get an early lead.

"No plan survives contact with the enemy." Helmuth von Moltke
 

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Mike Tyson once said "everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face".
 

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It’s interesting that we see a play and it appears a certain way and it turns out it was something completely different. The Patriots d was inside McVay’s head, apparently they had a pretty good read on what the rams wanted to do and they totally fooled Goff on that play which made him hesitate til it was too late. According to the McCourty brothers they changed the coverage at the last second and that’s what confused Goff.
 

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It’s interesting that we see a play and it appears a certain way and it turns out it was something completely different. The Patriots d was inside McVay’s head, apparently they had a pretty good read on what the rams wanted to do and they totally fooled Goff on that play which made him hesitate til it was too late. According to the McCourty brothers they changed the coverage at the last second and that’s what confused Goff.

The Rams disguised their coverage a lot as well. Just came down to one QB having been here for 20 years and one doing it for his first time.
 

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The Rams disguised their coverage a lot as well. Just came down to one QB having been here for 20 years and one doing it for his first time.
No doubt, I guess history is written by the winners, Brady didn’t throw a td and I think there was only 1 trip into the red zone and now there are “questions” about Goff.
 

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I'm torn.

On the one hand, showing the plays out of formations that we were and were not successful on is telling.

But on the other, Goff missed Cooks on that wide open TD, Cooks dropped a TD, Goff missed several other open WRs, and the OL played worse than usual.

I can attribute some of the OL play to some of McVay's calls - but aside from that, if Goff and Cooks execute those two plays, we probably win the game.
 

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I'll also say this - for as much as I love McVay, I hope this will be a lesson learned. The all 11 all the time stuff is cute, but when our offense goes from elite to awful like it did against the Bears (and to a lesser degree, against the Eagles), that should have been a red flag for him.
 

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I'll also say this - for as much as I love McVay, I hope this will be a lesson learned. The all 11 all the time stuff is cute, but when our offense goes from elite to awful like it did against the Bears (and to a lesser degree, against the Eagles), that should have been a red flag for him.

Kupp was missing, the most important receiver in the offense, and there was something up with Gurley. Can't judge the offense without them.

Now that he's seen it doesn't work quite so well without them he can work on ways to overcome the situation if they're not available again.

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