Kneejerk Central: Grade the Draft

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#2 and #3 got good grades but I'd submit for different reasons.
The Bears got two studs in the first. They only made 5 picks. They got a project OT, a P and an Edge. Clearly their high grade was on the two first round picks.
The Eagles went for "need". Their secondary sucked last year, so they got 2 stud DBs. Clearly their high grade was based on those 2.
Ditto for Pittsburgh. They needed OL help and got 2 studs early, plus a good WR and a stud LB....if he can play more than a couple years.
I don't get the love for KC, other than them being 2 time defending champs.
I got my rose colored glasses stuck on my nose so I can't see anybody having a better draft than the Rams.

 

[snackdaddy]

Rams draft grade?

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I'm great with every pick and the compensation for Fiske. After the Senior Bowl and combine he had round 1 grade in a lot of peoples opinions. The Corum pick will pay huge dividends starting immediately, we now have 2, 1a RBs. Also love the Kinchens pick, he will give us a true centerfielder in the secondary allowing Curl and Lake to play to their strengths. We have a solid foundation to make some real noise, we were a play or 2 away from advancing in last years playoffs and we will be a much improved team this year. It just may appear I'm overly optimistic but fuck it, I am. Give Stafford a little more guaranteed money, ask him not to retire in the middle of it and go win a couple of Super Bowls. Great draft, great off-season, and just for the helluva it, fuck the FortyWhiners.

Actually, they were one missed field goal from advancing, an extra point from tying, or one bad call from winning.

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Ouch, poor Raheem and the Falcones getting termed by the media.

Who is Thomas Psaier, and why the fuck did he give us the same grade as the Falcons?

There is always a biased oddball in the group

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

This is exactly what I've been saying. If they stood pat at 52 the talent level of the available players was dwindling fast. They would not have someone the caliber of Fiske. In fact, if they stayed at 52 they woulda been better off trading down with what woulda been available. I don't know if we'll see it in his rookie year but I'll bet we have at least a borderline pro bowl caliber DT within two years. Kobie Turner is already there.

And no stinker picks

 

[RamFan503]

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See...this is what I find interesting about all these grades. I have a strong suspicion that Caleb will faileb. Where does that put their grade if so?

I realize every team is going to have failing rookies but starting at #19, for example, should affect the curve. Caleb was a consensus no brainer. So I really think that should downgrade their scores.

Oh well. Doesn't really matter until they strap on the pads on Sundays.

 

[rdlkgliders]

The players made perfect sense and the trade didn't bother me at all. Snead & McVay value perceived impact through a thorough evaluation system. Snead has especially grown since the Wagner days and evolved from the F them picks to a more balanced approach.

I applaud their evolution as a team and give that an A

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I was just checking out every teams draft picks. From top to bottom, I believe the Rams had the best draft class.

There were some strong top heavy classes but if you look at the total picture there weren’t any more impressive. JMO.

I did like the Giants draft and the Buccaneers and Eagles also.

The Steelers draft is overrated. The falcons draft was bad.

 

[dang]

ÌThis was a very good draft. It added some starters and improved the existing depth in some spots. No AD’s or Kupps but some quality players

A+

From the top to the bottom, they absolutely nailed it.

The team continues to be transformed from the finesse style to the absolute physical, menacing, bullying style of play and I absolutely fucking love it.

NO LONGER will we get pushed around by the 9ers and teams like that. We do the pushing, hitting, bullying.

Also give that Kinchens and Curl will be a violent starting S duo.

also, love that Corum and Kyren can spell each other and won't have to change the offense. And Evans will be able to come in and hit HRs.

I can go on and on about how much I loved each and every bit of our picks.

still wanted DeJean tho haha!

I too wanted DeJean but the Rams needed Verse. Excellent draft all around. I would have liked JTrotter/Jaylan Ford ILB at R5.154 but I trust the Rams FO.

 

[Merlin]

Did we “overpay” for Fiske? Maybe. But if he becomes a Pro Bowl player, nobody will care.

I’d say we got Verse at a bargain price, so it evens out.

After listening to that post-draft presser it seemed to me like the Rams had a first round grade on Fiske, due to the way they discussed not thinking it would be possible to get both of them. So if they had him graded let's say around 25, in that group, then the move up price is not quite as bad.

Still comes down to them being right of course. But when a guy works like that, there's a good chance he's going to play at this level. This whole class feels like a "if they stay healthy they'll be good" type group.

 

[Memphis Ram]

Kiper's early post draft take on 2023 Draft

Los Angeles Rams: B​

Top needs entering the draft: OLB, CB, S, DT, QB
The Rams blew up their roster this offseason -- Jalen Ramsey, Bobby Wagner, Taylor Rapp, Leonard Floyd and Troy Hill are among the defenders no longer on the team -- and clearly are entering a rebuild. And with their first-round pick gone to Detroit, they're starting that rebuild at a disadvantage. Still, general manager Les Snead had a bunch of picks to work with on Friday and Saturday. So how'd he do?
Steve Avila (36) is a plug-and-play starter at guard, while edge rusher Byron Young (77) is stellar value on my board. I have Young No. 51 overall. As I mentioned Friday night, defensive tackle Kobie Turner (89) was the first player outside my top 200 to be drafted. That's extremely high for a player I don't think has starter-level tools.
I thought I was high on quarterback Stetson Bennett (128), but I had heard he was more likely to go in Rounds 5 or 6. He'll be a nice backup for Matthew Stafford, but I'm not sure how high his ceiling is overall. Wideout Puka Nacua (177), tight end Davis Allen (175) and edge rusher Ochaun Mathis (189) were all reaches on my board, and L.A. ended up taking my sixth-ranked punter Ethan Evans (223).
This is a bit of a mixed bag overall, but the top two picks were excellent value.

 

[Allen2McVay]

Kiper's early post draft take on 2023 Draft

Los Angeles Rams: B​

Top needs entering the draft: OLB, CB, S, DT, QB
Les Snead had a bunch of picks to work with on Friday and Saturday. So how'd he do?
Steve Avila (36) is a plug-and-play starter at guard, while edge rusher Byron Young (77) is stellar value on my board. I have Young No. 51 overall. As I mentioned Friday night, defensive tackle Kobie Turner (89) was the first player outside my top 200 to be drafted. That's extremely high for a player I don't think has starter-level tools.
Wideout Puka Nacua (177), tight end Davis Allen (175) and edge rusher Ochaun Mathis (189) were all reaches on my board,

Turner was outside his top-200. That means Kiper had him as a late-6th or 7th round pick at best.

Nacua ... at #177 ... the final pick in Round 5 ... was STILL a 'reach' to Kiper.

Those are two MAJOR swings and misses.

 

[hotanez]

Kiper's early post draft take on 2023 Draft

Los Angeles Rams: B​

Top needs entering the draft: OLB, CB, S, DT, QB
The Rams blew up their roster this offseason -- Jalen Ramsey, Bobby Wagner, Taylor Rapp, Leonard Floyd and Troy Hill are among the defenders no longer on the team -- and clearly are entering a rebuild. And with their first-round pick gone to Detroit, they're starting that rebuild at a disadvantage. Still, general manager Les Snead had a bunch of picks to work with on Friday and Saturday. So how'd he do?
Steve Avila (36) is a plug-and-play starter at guard, while edge rusher Byron Young (77) is stellar value on my board. I have Young No. 51 overall. As I mentioned Friday night, defensive tackle Kobie Turner (89) was the first player outside my top 200 to be drafted. That's extremely high for a player I don't think has starter-level tools.
I thought I was high on quarterback Stetson Bennett (128), but I had heard he was more likely to go in Rounds 5 or 6. He'll be a nice backup for Matthew Stafford, but I'm not sure how high his ceiling is overall. Wideout Puka Nacua (177), tight end Davis Allen (175) and edge rusher Ochaun Mathis (189) were all reaches on my board, and L.A. ended up taking my sixth-ranked punter Ethan Evans (223).
This is a bit of a mixed bag overall, but the top two picks were excellent value.

 

[Ram Ts]

draft rankings, grades etc are useless garbage fun - like junk food.
Team rankings and actual on field player performance is what matters.

 

[Gandalf]

Kiper's early post draft take on 2023 Draft

Los Angeles Rams: B​

Top needs entering the draft: OLB, CB, S, DT, QB
The Rams blew up their roster this offseason -- Jalen Ramsey, Bobby Wagner, Taylor Rapp, Leonard Floyd and Troy Hill are among the defenders no longer on the team -- and clearly are entering a rebuild. And with their first-round pick gone to Detroit, they're starting that rebuild at a disadvantage. Still, general manager Les Snead had a bunch of picks to work with on Friday and Saturday. So how'd he do?
Steve Avila (36) is a plug-and-play starter at guard, while edge rusher Byron Young (77) is stellar value on my board. I have Young No. 51 overall. As I mentioned Friday night, defensive tackle Kobie Turner (89) was the first player outside my top 200 to be drafted. That's extremely high for a player I don't think has starter-level tools.
I thought I was high on quarterback Stetson Bennett (128), but I had heard he was more likely to go in Rounds 5 or 6. He'll be a nice backup for Matthew Stafford, but I'm not sure how high his ceiling is overall. Wideout Puka Nacua (177), tight end Davis Allen (175) and edge rusher Ochaun Mathis (189) were all reaches on my board, and L.A. ended up taking my sixth-ranked punter Ethan Evans (223).
This is a bit of a mixed bag overall, but the top two picks were excellent value.

Who the hell is Mel Kiper??

 

[Tano]

Who the hell is Mel Kiper??

Some bozo who rarely gets his draft picks correct

 

[PARAM]

Kiper is a tool!

Draft experts? Think of it in terms of how well the Rams do in the lower rounds. Everybody and anybody can produce a list of the top 50. But after that they're all over the place both with their rankings and how the players actually turn out. I'd love to see a list of Kiper's (and other so called draft experts) hit and miss rates from 51 on down. I'd bet they're not all that good.

 

[fanotodd]

Kiper is a tool!

Draft experts? Think of it in terms of how well the Rams do in the lower rounds. Everybody and anybody can produce a list of the top 50. But after that they're all over the place both with their rankings and how the players actually turn out. I'd love to see a list of Kiper's (and other so called draft experts) hit and miss rates from 51 on down. I'd bet they're not all that good.

And that’s exactly where the Rams’ FO separates themselves from the rest of the league.