Denver's OLB Von Miller traded to Rams

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You anchor clankers behave!!!
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HD an old Buddy who died years ago that I called a Forest Gump of the 1900’s.When The Rams won the SuperBowl he went to Vegas with me to collect a big bet.Funny how he jumped on it to see if it bounced.

The story was in War he was getting shot down on by enemy plans & he was the Bosin mate. He was ordered to cut the Anchor.He was already in the process of pulling up the anchor.
He took scrap metal & his deck hand rusty took the worst of it.The reason why he didn’t want to cut the Anchor is they would have made them go back & find it was his story.
He was also sunk by a torpedo once.
Some how I think he claimed he got a Purple Heart by disobeying an order & felt bad old rusty took a few extra pellets.Just thought that was a interesting anchor story.

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And yet Les in interviews has said that it was brought up during the negotiations for Young and both sides agreed to double back later so not sure what the point it?
The Rams, while they seem to be willing to talk about trades and stuff, I don't think they like to tell the complete truth. They always hold back some key details.
 

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Boomer duty would have been the most boring job in the navy. Go on station, run drills, do field days do more drills never get to foreign ports. Hard pass.

Fast attack boats were the best. Still plenty of drills but at least we got to be involved in war games, doing real snoop duty and blowing stuff up.

Double dittos for a sonar tech ... boomers just turn and run when they detect another ship in the area. Fast attacks go get in the shit if it's something interesting. :cool:

h FFS I could sorta tolerate it when you Navy weirdos hijacked a punter thread.... but not our thread about Von Freaking Miller, dammit!!!
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The Rams, while they seem to be willing to talk about trades and stuff, I don't think they like to tell the complete truth. They always hold back some key details.
Ok

Just curious but what would be the point of lying about this? Nothing they did was shady or anything like that. Seems kind of pointless tbh. Unless this is shade for other things that we don't really discuss around here because of obvious reasons which makes this comment make sense I'm not sure what there is to lie about on this trade.
 

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And yet Les in interviews has said that it was brought up during the negotiations for Young and both sides agreed to double back later so not sure what the point it?
The timeline seems pretty clear. They were conducting a Young trade and inquired about Von. Sounds like they’ve inquired before as well.

Having a good working relationship with other teams leads to this kind of thing. Open communications.
 

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Ok

Just curious but what would be the point of lying about this? Nothing they did was shady or anything like that. Seems kind of pointless tbh. Unless this is shade for other things that we don't really discuss around here because of obvious reasons which makes this comment make sense I'm not sure what there is to lie about on this trade.
You make good points. I didnt see any reason either, but I had to work with a guy ln sales and marketing for years and he never would tell the whole story on anything. He would leave out the most inconsequential details. I asked him once what difference it makes. He said why give out more than you have to. We compete with others for these contracts. The less that's out there on how we do business the harder it is for the competition to get a head of us.

I think the are always aware of the competition. Any little edge makes a difference. You put little pieces out there and before you know it the competition has the whole puzzle to piece together.
 

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Ok

Just curious but what would be the point of lying about this? Nothing they did was shady or anything like that. Seems kind of pointless tbh. Unless this is shade for other things that we don't really discuss around here because of obvious reasons which makes this comment make sense I'm not sure what there is to lie about on this trade.
Yeah there is no reason for Snead to lie about it. I think the origin of all that is some posters feeling like we should have gotten more for Young.

But the truth is Young never really mattered to the Rams. He is a depth player who was in front of the guy they identified and targeted and drafted in the third round too. So yeah I agree it's much to do about nothing.
 

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You make good points. I didnt see any reason either, but I had to work with a guy ln sales and marketing for years and he never would tell the whole story on anything. He would leave out the most inconsequential details. I asked him once what difference it makes. He said why give out more than you have to. We compete with others for these contracts. The less that's out there on how we do business the harder it is for the competition to get a head of us.

I think the are always aware of the competition. Any little edge makes a difference. You put little pieces out there and before you know it the competition has the whole puzzle to piece together.
Got it all sales and marketing guys are liars. Not telling the rest of the league you're going to give player X a contract and all the details is a far cry from lying about starting trade talks after a first trade went down.
 

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Yeah there is no reason for Snead to lie about it. I think the origin of all that is some posters feeling like we should have gotten more for Young.

But the truth is Young never really mattered to the Rams. He is a depth player who was in front of the guy they identified and targeted and drafted in the third round too. So yeah I agree it's much to do about nothing.
Rams got what they wanted from the Young trade, salary cap and an open road for Jones to start at ILB. Upgrading one pick was a bonus.
 

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Got it all sales and marketing guys are liars. Not telling the rest of the league you're going to give player X a contract and all the details is a far cry from lying about starting trade talks after a first trade went down.
A starting player and a 7th, seems like a lot to give up for a 6th round pick. We al thought something else had to be up. And there was.

Everybody just happens to show up I Cabo. Right! I don't know why they do it I'm just pretty sure they do.
 

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Everybody just happens to show up I Cabo. Right! I don't know why they do it I'm just pretty sure they do.
Suspicion around the Cabo thing is well placed I think. But that trade was always about what Stafford wanted and Detroit was going to do their best to make him happy so not much the other teams like SF can say about it. I do think there's a story underneath all that and logic actually points to it.

Not so much with Young though. Not that it's a big deal or anything, I just find this continued theory across multiple boards to be kind of funny and think it's an outgrowth of fans overvaluing Young. Young's got a lot of warts and that's why the whole thing went down like it did.

For now enjoy watching those RBs tackled immediately in the flats on swing passes, and the hard run fills. And enjoy Jones tracking so well underneath reading the QB's eyes to be in position to disrupt in the pass game. Gaines mentioned in his presser that Jones had been killing it in practice, so sometimes the story is as simple as it appears.

And by the way let's wait and see how Young does as a starter in Denver. I suspect they're gonna have some of the same issues we were having. Good guy in the locker room and all that but limited in what he can give you between the hashes.
 

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Suspicion around the Cabo thing is well placed I think. But that trade was always about what Stafford wanted and Detroit was going to do their best to make him happy so not much the other teams like SF can say about it. I do think there's a story underneath all that and logic actually points to it.

Not so much with Young though. Not that it's a big deal or anything, I just find this continued theory across multiple boards to be kind of funny and think it's an outgrowth of fans overvaluing Young. Young's got a lot of warts and that's why the whole thing went down like it did.

For now enjoy watching those RBs tackled immediately in the flats on swing passes, and the hard run fills. And enjoy Jones tracking so well underneath reading the QB's eyes to be in position to disrupt in the pass game. Gaines mentioned in his presser that Jones had been killing it in practice, so sometimes the story is as simple as it appears.

And by the way let's wait and see how Young does as a starter in Denver. I suspect they're gonna have some of the same issues we were having. Good guy in the locker room and all that but limited in what he can give you between the hashes.

Seems simple enough for me, ... they saw Ernest Jones as being ready and needed the CAP relief trading Young would provide.
 

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You guys are really putting too much thought into the actual timeline. The fact is that discussions between GMs are happening all the time about 90+% of the players, even those considered "untouchable". It just is.

Sometimes, the asking price is within reach for further discussion, and sometimes these result in something both sides feel are doable and mutually beneficial. BOOM.

I believe Les that this was "discussed", and they agreed to circle back AFTER the Young deal and found a way to make it work. But in the end, doesn't matter. We have the most exciting team in the NFL, especially with Mahomes finally slumping...
 

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A starting player and a 7th, seems like a lot to give up for a 6th round pick. We al thought something else had to be up. And there was.

Everybody just happens to show up I Cabo. Right! I don't know why they do it I'm just pretty sure they do.
When you look at the relative value in trades… remember Young’s contract ends this year.. it’s not hard at all to imagine such minimal value.
 

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Ok

Just curious but what would be the point of lying about this? Nothing they did was shady or anything like that. Seems kind of pointless tbh. Unless this is shade for other things that we don't really discuss around here because of obvious reasons which makes this comment make sense I'm not sure what there is to lie about on this trade.

I think it mostly comes into play when a guy is traded away than bringing a guy in.

And I think the Rams really try to be respectful of other teams' processes for player personnel. Even if they wanna talk, we tend to be pretty circumspect about HOW we talk about the personnel side of the business.

Better that than an org that leaks like a sieve and as soon as a deal goes down, the org can't shut up.
 

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And yet Les in interviews has said that it was brought up during the negotiations for Young and both sides agreed to double back later so not sure what the point it?
Just saying. That tweet came fromAlbert Breer who is a reliable source and was reported from the Broncos’ side.

It just seemed to me that I was being accused of making it up or that it had zero credibility. Maybe Snead nor Jourdan didn’t have any idea that the Broncos kept Miller in the loop all week. Maybe Snead only reported to Lindsey from his own point of the negotiations.
 

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Double dittos for a sonar tech ... boomers just turn and run when they detect another ship in the area. Fast attacks go get in the shit if it's something interesting. :cool:



Get qualified, nub! (for you landlubbers and skimmer pukes, nub is what we called a new guy, an acronym for "non-useful body")

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What's this behave word of which you speak?
Meanwhile, the good Guus on Desteoyers float above it all, listening to those rusty fast attack subs, rattling, giving our sonar techs ear aches because of the noise…. *flexes quads.
 

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Meanwhile, the good Guus on Desteoyers float above it all, listening to those rusty fast attack subs, rattling, giving our sonar techs ear aches because of the noise…. *flexes quads.
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