These "weight on the QB" penalties are BS.

[Turducken]

I don't think this rule has anything to do with concussion prevention. Just throwing flags to protect QB ribs. They can armor up the QBs if that is the concern, just don't take away the sack.

 

[fearsomefour]

Yes, it is pathetic.

 

[Tron]

It's stupid as shit. Don't remember seeing a QB get hurt from that happening. Hate it.

 

[Angry Ram]

I don't think this rule has anything to do with concussion prevention. Just throwing flags to protect QB ribs. They can armor up the QBs if that is the concern, just don't take away the sack.

It's to protect against concussions AND unnecessary injuries like what Aaron Rodgers had last year.

Can't spear the QBs to the ground with your weight. Players better adjust...wrap and bring the QB down.

And as I type that JJ Watt wraps and brings down Tom Brady. No flag.

Hmmmm.....

 

[Jacobarch]

Yeah terrible rule by people who have never played the game

 

[RamBall]

I don't think this rule has anything to do with concussion prevention. Just throwing flags to protect QB ribs. They can armor up the QBs if that is the concern, just don't take away the sack.

Its the extra effort to inflict injury that makes it a penalty. If the defender just drags the QB down or rolls it is still a sack. But when they jump to drive all their weight into the QB in an attempt to injure them it is a penalty. Once the QB is going down there is no reason to drive your weight onto them.

Not sure why so many people see it as a bad rule, every play I have seen flagged has been a blatant attempt to injure the QB, just take the sack and be happy with a ggod play. Attempting to injure the QB takes away from what could have been a good play.

 

[Malibu]

How are you supposed to tackle him when u hit the QB square ridiculous. They say they want you to roll off as u tackle - sure I am sure when tackling a player squarely you can think to roll to the side not forgetting it is very hard to even do that agsia when u hit the QB directly.

 

[Turducken]

Its the extra effort to inflict injury that makes it a penalty. If the defender just drags the QB down or rolls it is still a sack. But when they jump to drive all their weight into the QB in an attempt to injure them it is a penalty. Once the QB is going down there is no reason to drive your weight onto them.

Not sure why so many people see it as a bad rule, every play I have seen flagged has been a blatant attempt to injure the QB, just take the sack and be happy with a ggod play. Attempting to injure the QB takes away from what could have been a good play.

They aren't flagging slams (which were illegal when Jim Youngblood bodyslammed that vikings QB 40 years ago). They are flagging 300lb linemen for common sacks if they unable to change their direction midair to avoid landing on a QB.

 

[RamBall]

How are you supposed to tackle him when u hit the QB square ridiculous. They say they want you to roll off as u tackle - sure I am sure when tackling a player squarely you can think to roll to the side not forgetting it is very hard to even do that agsia when u hit the QB directly.

If you watch the Rams DL in drills they are coached to wrap and roll when tackling the QB. What draws the flags is when players jump to drive their weight onto the QB when the QB was already going down, no need to launch yourself into him at that point. The rule is clear and I have yet to see a clean hit flagged for it.

 

[RamBall]

They aren't flagging slams (which were illegal when Jim Youngblood bodyslammed that vikings QB 40 years ago). They are flagging 300lb linemen for common sacks if they unable to change their direction midair to avoid landing on a QB.

If you watch the hits that are flagged, the defender launches himself into the QB after the QB is already going down. If they dont leave their feet as the QB is going down, no flag. The Rams are coached to wrap and roll when sacking the QB so I dont think we will see to many flags on the Rams for this. Suh was not flagged for his hit on Watson the the preseason, because he didnt launch himself onto Watson as Watson was going down. IMO the plays I have seen flagged were dirty plays and deserve flags.

 

[RhodyRams]

It's stupid as crap. Don't remember seeing a QB get hurt from that happening. Hate it.

They are calling it The Aaron Rodgers rules...That's how he broke his collar bone last year

 

[Tron]

They are calling it The Aaron Rodgers rules...That's how he broke his collar bone last year

OFC when its someone like Rodgers or Brady, they gotta make a new rule about it. Who else has gottten hurt from it? I just don't remember many is all.

 

[ReekofRams]

Its the extra effort to inflict injury that makes it a penalty. If the defender just drags the QB down or rolls it is still a sack. But when they jump to drive all their weight into the QB in an attempt to injure them it is a penalty. Once the QB is going down there is no reason to drive your weight onto them.

Not sure why so many people see it as a bad rule, every play I have seen flagged has been a blatant attempt to injure the QB, just take the sack and be happy with a ggod play. Attempting to injure the QB takes away from what could have been a good play.

Obviously you didn't play competitive football. I did in high school and Jr. College. As I played OT and DL at 6'4" and 310lbs.These players are making snap decisions and when you're trying to make sure you tackle someone you use every bit of energy you have to make sure a player to down. If you don't you might not make the tackle.
Oh this is not a trained move it comes naturally. Watch a group of kids playing football and you'll see them doing the same thing. There things yes you can teach and train when it comes to safety, but you can't teach someone how to go against what is natural, what is instinct.

 

[Angry Ram]

Obviously you didn't play competitive football. I did in high school and Jr. College. As I played OT and DL at 6'4" and 310lbs.These players are making snap decisions and when you're trying to make sure you tackle someone you use every bit of energy you have to make sure a player to down. If you don't you might not make the tackle.
Oh this is not a trained move it comes naturally. Watch a group of kids playing football and you'll see them doing the same thing. There things yes you can teach and train when it comes to safety, but you can't teach someone how to go against what is natural, what is instinct.

I've never seen a group of kids, nor played myself, lift a QB up, spear him to the ground, and pancake him. It's not instinct when you do that 3 step process. Wrap and tackle. Pull him down. Use your own weight going down to bring him down, not your weight on top of him. These DL are 280+ plus of pure muscle plus pads, they can sack QBs legally. I agree with the rule and it fits the definition of "unnecessary".

 

[Classic Rams]

They aren't flagging slams (which were illegal when Jim Youngblood bodyslammed that vikings QB 40 years ago). They are flagging 300lb linemen for common sacks if they unable to change their direction midair to avoid landing on a QB.

I was watching that game on TV back then. The Viking QB who was slammed was Tommy Kramer and he had some scary convulsions while on the ground. Rams crushed the Vikings 34-17 in the old Met.

Extra trivia: They were filming a part of a movie during the game called Foolin' Around where Gary Bussey is in the stands telling Annette O'Toole that he doesn't think the Vikings would be winng today. He later steals a weinermobile and drives it down the street.

 

[bubbaramfan]

When was the last time they made a rule change that favored the defense? Penalty for landing on top of the QB while making a sack is fucking ridiculous.

NFL owners and front office should be investing in research and development of helmets and other gear to prevent injuries instead of changing the rules, but they're too fucking cheap.

I'm "this close :headexplosion:" to fishing on Sunday's instead of watching what's becoming flag football.

 

[Raptorman]

If you watch the hits that are flagged, the defender launches himself into the QB after the QB is already going down. If they dont leave their feet as the QB is going down, no flag. The Rams are coached to wrap and roll when sacking the QB so I dont think we will see to many flags on the Rams for this. Suh was not flagged for his hit on Watson the the preseason, because he didnt launch himself onto Watson as Watson was going down. IMO the plays I have seen flagged were dirty plays and deserve flags.

Not true. If a lineman lands on top of the QB it's a penalty. Period. Had a Viking player land on top of Jimmy G., never launched himself, hit him as he was passing. Landed on top of him 15 yards.

 

[RamBall]

Obviously you didn't play competitive football. I did in high school and Jr. College. As I played OT and DL at 6'4" and 310lbs.These players are making snap decisions and when you're trying to make sure you tackle someone you use every bit of energy you have to make sure a player to down. If you don't you might not make the tackle.
Oh this is not a trained move it comes naturally. Watch a group of kids playing football and you'll see them doing the same thing. There things yes you can teach and train when it comes to safety, but you can't teach someone how to go against what is natural, what is instinct.

And on the penalties they are making a snap decision to launch themselves onto the QB, they are intentionally trying to injure the QB. If they dont make the extra effort to injure the QB there is no penalty. Your theory of not having time to react is invalid as they have the time to make the decision to make extra effort to launch themselves onto the QB. If they hit the QB and fall on them, then there is no penanlty. It is the launching themselves into the QB after they have already taken the QB down that draws the flag. Not sure why it is so hard for some people to see the obvious launch after the tackle has been made. But if the player has time to launch himself into a QB that is going down, he also has the time to just drag him down or roll as he pulls him down, which is how most DL are trained to tackle the QB in practice. If ones natual instinct is to attempt to injure the QB, they desreve to be flagged. I think you are over thinking the penalty, rewatch what players are being penalized for. They are not being penalized for landing on the QB, they are being penalized for launching themselves onto an already going down QB.

Not sure what playing or not playing organized football has to do with being able to see blatant attempts to injure a QB.

 

[Angry Ram]

I'm "this close :headexplosion:" to fishing on Sunday's instead of watching what's becoming flag football.

You said this last year so many times, yet you still watch. Put your money where your mouth is and stop watching then.

 

[RhodyRams]

Not true. If a lineman lands on top of the QB it's a penalty. Period. Had a Viking player land on top of Jimmy G., never launched himself, hit him as he was passing. Landed on top of him 15 yards.

then it was a bad call.

I saw alot of sacks today as you just described that werent flagged