New Piece On Stafford-Goff Trade

[Coliseum Ram]

I think this is written by a Lions fan. Anyway, it gave me a case of the good feels....

The Lions lost the Matthew Stafford trade with Rams, and it’s finally clear | SB Nation https://share.google/wWm7iPVJ4ytjzqa0O

 

[OnceARam]

Too early to tell, but he makes a good point that they "should have" drafted an elite QB. That said, how many elite qb are there really? Maybe they could have drafted the guy on New England, but he wasn`t consensus elite or he wouldn`t have lasted that long.

I say too early, because all those draft picks are still playing on their rookie contracts.

But the sad reality of Goff not being elite is something we (Rams fans) can all relate to. Almost beat the damn Pats...

 

[Jacobarch]

Too early to tell, but he makes a good point that they "should have" drafted an elite QB. That said, how many elite qb are there really? Maybe they could have drafted the guy on New England, but he wasn`t consensus elite or he wouldn`t have lasted that long.

I say too early, because all those draft picks are still playing on their rookie contracts.

But the sad reality of Goff not being elite is something we (Rams fans) can all relate to. Almost beat the damn Pats...

How is it too early to tell? SB trophy, multiple division titles and counting.

 

[Conciliator]

Oh Noooo! Here we go!!

 

[Tumak61]

Sports writing has gone into the toilet since sports blogs became a thing. Too much space to fill with mostly mindless BS

 

[rdlkgliders]

If drafting Elite QBs was that easy it would be done more often.
Goff was 1 overall, Bradford was 1 overall. Potential eliteness at the QB position in college hasn't done much to establish that result in the NFL.
There is a high percentage chance, even if you're #1 overall, that the player will never be elite.
Of the elite QBs several weren't first off the board.

 

[thirteen28]

Who fucking cares “who won the trade”?

The Rams got what they wanted out of it, and the Lions are at least relevant and good enough to be in the postseason conversation.

Just a stupid waste of time at this point.

 

[TSFH Fan]

I think this is written by a Lions fan.

Hah, wasn't going to post until finding out that the dude is a Celtics/Patriots fan.
F Oliver Fox and everything he writes.
Shoot the messenger? Please, do!

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Oliver Fox​

Oliver Fox has been writing about the sports world since 2021, broadly focused on the NBA, NFL, MLB, the Boston Celtics, and world tennis. He graduated from Tufts University with a degree in history, a field which continues to inform his sports writing.

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[snackdaddy]

I can't fault the Lions for not trading up to get a franchise quarterback. The first draft after the trade had 3 quarterbacks with the first 3 picks. Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson and Trey Lance. Mac Jones went in the 15th pick. None of those are as good as Goff. Odds are none will ever be. The next year Kenny Pickett was the only QB taken in the first round. Another one who will never be as good as Goff.

I'd say the Lions were unlucky when they had the opportunity to draft high there were no quarterbacks any better than the one they had. If they wanted a Superbowl they woulda done better to use the premium picks and trade for one. Goff may never win a Superbowl for them but he will keep them respectable. A whole lot better than the decades prior. And if they had built a better defense they mighta got there a couple years ago. They gave up 79 points in the two playoff losses.

 

[OnceARam]

How is it too early to tell? SB trophy, multiple division titles and counting.

Meaning Detroit could still win a SB with their current roster in tact (Goff + draft capital on rookie contracts). Although I doubt it, given Goff`s well documented melt downs.

My comment wasn't a shot at the Rams, which you seem to imply.

 

[PARAM]

This............ "There are lots of Goff-Lions-esque experiments currently cooking, with mistake-prone, physically limited QBs captaining big-time rosters. From Sam Darnold’s Seahawks to Daniel Jones’ Colts, these are currently successful teams that may find themselves lacking under center when it matters most.".......is a very good point. It is correct nobody can fault the Lions for making the trade. They totally restocked their roster but at the time, there was the idea, yeah Goff has limitations but the Lions can replace him in the next year or so. And like that writer said, unfortunately, they started winning right away....just like the Rams with Goff, when McVay arrived. And the comparisons he makes, make sense. Look what Goff did in those two games. Look what Darnold did in last years playoff game and last week. Watch what Danial Jones does in the postseason this year. The guy is right IMHO. And let me add, I was a Goff fan. But you can't deny the results.

 

[jap]

The Lions had Matthew and failed to build a solid team around him with so many early first round picks over the years.

The Horns correctly saw that Matthew was the Missing Element and went after him. They have a chance to close out Matthew's career as a dynasty. Matthew may even mentor his replacement before he rides off into the sunset.

 

[Jacobarch]

Meaning Detroit could still win a SB with their current roster in tact (Goff + draft capital on rookie contracts). Although I doubt it, given Goff`s well documented melt downs.

My comment wasn't a shot at the Rams, which you seem to imply.

Who cares what Detroit does. We already won one.

And no im not implying that I just don't know why its even still up for debate

 

[Merlin]

We won a Super Bowl with Stafford so we're a winner in that trade regardless. It's over as far as the Rams are concerned.

Now whether Detroit ever gets it done is their cross to bear. And Stafford may end up costing them a title if they face us.

 

[sloramfan]

DUMB THREAD

 

[Psycho_X]

Why? Well I know why because Lions fans are still desperate to tell themselves that they won the trade. I would think most Rams fans don't care anymore because the trade was worth it to us. Who cares if it is worth it to them.

 

[sloramfan]

this ^^^^^^
there is no argument...

again i say.. dumb thread

go rams

slo

 

[Spider2YB]

One of the things that NEVER gets discussed when people analyze this trade is the fact that SF and Shanahan were sniffing around Stafford, too. I 1000% believe if he lands in SF, they win a ring sometime in the last 4 years. So not only did WE win a ring, but we kept our biggest rival from winning one as well. That is something that has nothing to do with Goff that makes the trade an undoubted smash success for the Rams

 

[sloramfan]

i agree 100% spider

 

[jrry32]

The trade was a win-win. We won the Super Bowl. We may win another. The Lions have turned the assets they received into success their franchise hasn't seen in many decades. Maybe they win a Super Bowl. Maybe they don't. It's very hard to win one. But they're at least competing now, and they should continue to compete in future years.

Expecting the Lions to achieve the same results as the Rams displays a serious lack of understanding on the author's part. At the time we made the trade, we had an elite HC and had recently played in the Super Bowl. We traded for a better QB to get us over the hump. That better QB is near retirement, but he's still playing at a high level. We still have that elite HC. Of course we remain in a strong position. Detroit on the other hand was a perennial loser at the time the trade was made. That trade helped them to turn the franchise around. I doubt they regret it.