Whats gone wrong this year

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FRO

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The biggest free agency loses came on defense. That side has played well enough. The offensive losses weren't big at all and the offense got worse.
 

shaunpinney

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The biggest free agency loses came on defense. That side has played well enough. The offensive losses weren't big at all and the offense got worse.

Must come down to coaching and play calling...
 

Yamahopper

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In a nutshell.
The coaching is what we thought it would be.
And the players aren't what we thought they were.
It's going to take a rebuild on all levels to have a consistent winning team.
 

Zaphod

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We need a competent, experienced offensive coordinator, but I really do like a lot of the other points brought up here.
 

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When we traded up for Goff, it was essentially Fisher going "all in" with what cards already in his hand - and it turned out that we all thought might be a full house or a flush was just a pair of 3s..

But specifically what's gone wrong?

Brockers - great pick
Quick - terrible pick
Pead - worst pick
Jenkins - great pick - no longer with team
TruJo - great pick

Chris Givens - bad pick
Rok Watkins - bad pick
GZ - good pick
Aaron Brown - 7th round pick, but still not good


Tavon Austin - average pick - good player, not used effectively so average pick for the Rams
Ogletree - great pick
TJ McDonald - good pick
Stedman Bailey - terrible pick

Barrett Jones - terrible pick
Brandon McGee - bad pick
Zac Stacy - bad pick


Greg Robinson - terrible pick
Aaron Donald - best pick
Lamarcus Joyner - average pick
Tre Mason - terrible pick

Mo Alexander - good pick
EJ Gaines - good pick
Rest of this class - 6th and 7th round picks, not good but Bryant and Rhaney stayed on the team for a bit


Todd Gurley - great pick
Rob Havenstein - average pick
Jamon Brown - average pick
Sean Mannion - bad pick

Andrew Donnal - average pick
Bud Sasser - bad pick
Cody Whichman - average pick
Bryce Hager - average pick
Ifedi - 7th round


Not counting this most recent class for obvious reasons. I fear we overvalue some of our players, so I tried to be objective - in rounds 1-3 for the first 4 drafts of this regime, our rate at making above average draft choices is 9/17 - now, that's just rating how good of picks they were in hindsight - of that group we only have around 5 players that are above average NFL starters.

What's worse is that after days 1 and 2 of the draft, Fisher and Snead fall off a cliff. Gaines and Alexander are the only decent players that we've acquired on day 3 of the draft under Fisher (not counting the kicker) - with Donnal and Wichman having the potential to add to that group.

But - some GMs can have these type of numbers and still be successful - what really hurts were the terrible picks on days 1 and 2 - Bailey/Mason/Pead/Quick/Robinson - this kind of draft capital wasted would get most coach/GM combos fired, but the Rams acquired so much draft capital that it's gone under the radar. Then to compound issues - we somehow were unable to keep Jenkins, despite these failures - so we lost what was probably the 3rd best player this regime drafted. Also disturbing is the startling lack of success in the 2nd and 3rd rounds - of the 3 2nd round picks from the 2012 draft, two are off the team and the other is Brian Quick. Ouch.


It happens to every fan base - we overrate our own players. But the harsh truth is, Snisher has not done a good enough job at drafting as well as coaching.
 

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Must come down to coaching and play calling...
It plays a part, but I think they were a bit overconfident in the talent they were bringing back. They scapegoated the QB position, but there were more holes than just the QB.