What Cardinals Fans Are Saying Before And After The Game

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The next three games...Rams, 49ers, Seahawks!

We are still a team that is 3-3 despite a relatively easy early schedule. We have 3 wins by a total of 11 points, against teams with a combined 4 wins, 2 of the 3 in overtime vs very bad teams. 3 losses by a combined 50 points. At -39, only 3 teams in the NFL have a worse win-loss point spread. Only the Bears, Colts and Browns have been worse by that measure...some bad teams.

But a win vs the Rams and what should be a very winnable game against the 49ers could have us at 5-3, on top of the Rams and equal or within a game of the Seahawks. We get them at home, and TJ Logan should be back. The game would be huge.
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10-6 wins the West this year. Seattle is average and the Rams are still a year away.
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It could turn out that yesterday's offense with AP's big game was entirely a fluke driven partly by high emotions. But the Rams have no idea.

Where a mere 6 days ago, their defensive game plan would have been dictated by a weak pass protecting o-line and non-existent running game, now and until the dust settles through at least another week, they will have to assume that the Cardinals run game is as good if not better than it has been in recent years.
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The Rams are 27 in Run D. Their D hadnt been lights out and they are average in the secondary. This is a winnable game, yet the toughest of the 3.
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3-0 versus the Rams-49ers-Seahawks is a tall order but can be done ... need to win in London to even think about 3-0 though.
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There is nothing in 2017 to indicate we can win 2 out of our next 3 games. We don't have a win over a team with a 500 record let alone a winning record. Teams that put runs together are usually pretty good.

What I saw yesterday showed that we could block when healthy get our running game going against a pretty mediocre team at home. That's all I saw.

Nothing indicates we can beat the Rams or the Seahawks. We outright destroyed TB at home last year and had a much better overall D and still we never won 3 in row. We always soiled our diapers in most games after a big win.

It's early but so far in 2017 the Rams have a much better overall team on both sides of the ball. I think one game doesn't mean a thing in projecting forward. We will either stack wins or we won't. So far there is nothing to indicate that we will or that we won't.

Anyone projecting we might go 2 and 1 is as right as projecting 1 and 2 or 0 and 3. If I bet on football without my heart, I would project a loss to the Rams, a toss up game against SF in their house and I have no clue about Seattle at this point. They were very lucky to win the Ram game. The Rams had 5 turnovers and were still in that game until the end.

The problem with our team wasn't just the injuries on the OL, it was a bad Defense. Bad defensive teams usually don't stack wins. I personally think Wade Phillips is miles better than Betcher. That's if every thing else was equal. I think they have better personal on D.
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Cardinals at Rams (London) Preview

Team Stats:

PTS FOR: AZ (19.6--20th); LA (29.8--1st)
PASS: AZ (286.2--3rd); LA (243.8--10th)
RUSH: AZ (69.8--32nd); LA (116.0-13th)
PTS AGAINST: AZ (26.3-30th); LA (23.0--20th)

PFF Player Grades Comparisons:

QB: AZ Palmer (76.5); LA Goff (75.7)
RB: AZ Peterson (84.2); LA Gurley (74.8)
WR: AZ Fitzgerald (81.8); LA Watkins (74.5)
WR:AZ Jaron Brown (75.2); LA Woods (72.6)
WR: AZ John Brown (75.0); LA Kupp (79.3)
TE: AZ Gresham (43.6); LA Higbee (70.1)
TE: AZ Niklas (42.9); LA Everett (67.6)
LT: AZ Humphries (77.3); LA Whitworth(82.4)
LG: AZ Boone (39.7); LA Saffold(77.9)
C: AZ Shipley (50.6); LA Sullivan (75.5)
RG: AZ Watford (32.9): LA Brown (42.9)
RT: AZ Veldheer (40.4); LA Havenstein (70.9)

NT: AZ Peters (82.0); LA Smart (43.5)
DT: AZ Rucker (48.2); LA Donald (95.6)
DT: AZ Mauro (45.6); LA Brockers (85.9)
DE: AZ Jones (85.5); LA Quinn (62.4)
LB:AZ Dansby (46.2); LA Ogletree (33.0)
LB: AZ Bucannon (35.6); LA Barron (80.9)
LB: AZ Reddick (47.0); LA Barwin (45.0)
CB: AZ Peterson (82.0);LA T. Johnson (43.7)
CB: AZ Bethel (46.0); LA Webster(80.5)
S: AZ: Mathieu (42.5); LA Johnson (82.7)
S: AZ: Branch (88.1); LA Davis (77.5)

Special Teams:

K AZ Dawson (10/14 FG, 11/11 XPT); LA Zeurlein (17/18 FG, 18/18 XPT)
P AZ Lee (47.3 ave., 38.2 net); LA Hekker (46.9 ave., 44.7 net)
KR AZ Williams (20.3 ave.); LA Cooper (31.7 ave.)
PR AZ Williams (3.4 ave.); LA Cooper (5.7 ave.)

Cardinals' Advantage: QB, WR, OLB, CB, S
Rams' Advantage: T, G, C, TE, DT, ILB, K, P, KR, PR

What the Cardinals Need To Do:

On Offense:

1---Run Off-Tackle: Deuce Blocks on Brockers and Donald, Angle and Kick Out Blocks on Quinn and Barwin
2---Wall the Middle on Pass Plays, keep a RB in to take first penetration, A gap blitzes
3---Help on DE Quinn---chips, double teams
4---Win WR/CB matchups
5---Isolate RB in passing game on Ogletree

On Defense:

1---Swarm tackle on Gurley
2---Pressure Goff, collapse pocket, get him to throw off back foot---make blitzes count
3---DL get hands up in passing lanes to stifle short passing game---get 3rd down stops
4---Do a quicker job reading and blowing up screens---get a big game from Buc and Dansby
5---Abandon the zones---play tight man exclusively---Peterson (Watkins), Bethel/T.Williams (Woods); Mathieu (Kupp); Branch (Higbee); Dansby (Everett), Bethea deep help opposite Peterson and at times sneak up to jump Kupp or Higbee.

On STs:

1---Limit Pharoh Cooper's touches on returns with touchbacks and hang-time on punts
2---Pressure Hekker and Zeurlein, disturb their timing and rhythm
3---Put Bethel back as one of the gunners, pair him with Baker
4---Don't let STC John Fassel and the Rams' very good STs be the difference maker in this game
5---Get Scooby Wright going---play these teams with passion
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Not comfortable with TM on Kupp. He's Goffs go to guy. Get a CB covering Kupp.

They should even consider Peterson on 3rd down.
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I can understand your thought, in light of his recent struggles, but I think Honey Badger will do a superb job on Kupp. It's time for him to step up and he is pretty fired up for this London trip.
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Lol @ the entire rams o- line being ranked better... guess that shouldn't be a surprise.
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Just did a quick snap shot of the stats. What they suggest is:

Rams have huge advantages in Sacks and Interceptions.

Gurley performs for them similar to the way AP performed for us.

Their ST's do better than our ST's.

They spread the ball around to several receivers in the passing game.

But they tend to play things close to the vest passing-wise and then beat you with Gurley.

Net-Net: Their game is more mistake-free than BA's. We will ned to win the turnover war, neutralize their pass rush advantage, make fewer mistake, rattle Goff and out gut them in the 4Q if we're to have any shot at winning.
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Sounds like we will need a miracle. Might I suggest we start the game off with an onside kick.
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Can't wait for next week's matchup with Rams

Should be an exciting game. It should really be a magnifying glass for how good or bad we are as a team right now. A win gets everyone back on board in our fight to win our division. A loss could show us how good the Rams actually are this year, and/or what we need in order to stay competitive in coming years.
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I do like the fact we are leaving for London early while the Rams are going to leave for the game at the last moment. I think on the normal road game the team is going to start leaving a day before to avoid distraction but for an oversea trip, allowing the team time to assimilate is right
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Really afraid at the thought of Tyrann covering Cooper Kupp.
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Kupp is good, but really nothing special. Every team nowadays has their sneaky slot WR who moves the chains. It's not like Kupp is dominating or something like that. Rams should be afraid of covering Fitz, Brown and Nelson while AP runs down their throats. I love the matchup!
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I will temper my enthusiasm for this week. So far games in London have been blowouts and I don't see this one being any different. The Cardinals have not traveled well historically so that is a factor that works against them.

 

[FaulkSF]

Yes please play zone instead of man. Goff is extremely accurate on those intermediate passes.

 

[Legatron4]

I always forget how much I fucking hate these assholes. McVay will have a game plan and I hope we run down their throats. Gurley hasn’t had a long run in a while and we seem to be able to run on almost everybody. Also LOL at thinking their old ass offense is really that good. We will sack Palmer and stop Peterson in his tracks. Fuck them. And Bruce Arians.

 

[SteezyEndo]

I think the AZ sun has fried most of these guy's brain...I am thinking McVay will use alot of everyone to cause their D to break...WadeP, I am not worried give the D before halftime to adjust.

 

[LACHAMP46]

they don't seem scared, huh?

 

[Ramrasta]

They are desperate to win at this point. This is likely their last year of relevance before a rebuild with Palmer/Fitzgerald easing into retirement and Bruce Arians on the hot seat.

 

[socalrams90]

Was counting this as a win just 2 weeks ago, now its definitely a game. I'm still bitter that they pulled of those OT wins vs niners and colts, they shouldn't be a game behind us.

Anyways F them and their arrogance. Hope we destroy them and bring them back to reality. We are the better team in every facet, just need to execute.

 

[MTRamsFan]

This will be a tough game, but we have already faced two of the best backs in the league who are much younger than AP, and we held them in check (other than LF's 75 yd TD run.) I'm sure we will game plan to shut him down. If we limit AP, and beat the stuffing out of Palmer, we will be okay. My fear as always, when we play them, is Fitzgerald having a big game. He is the juice which makes their offense click. So we need to make sure he doesn't have a big game either.

 

[Karate61]

This post from the AZ fan seems reasonable:

"Sounds like we will need a miracle. Might I suggest we start the game off with an onside kick."

Rams are in the driver's seat on this game. If it were in LA I would think Rams blowout, but being in London does raise some concern.

 

[RedRam]

For the most part :blah::blah::blah:...

RB: AZ Peterson (84.2); LA Gurley (74.8

AP has essentially had one game??

CB: AZ Peterson (82.0);LA T. Johnson (43.7)

And you want how much Tru? Time to pick it up!

S: AZ: Mathieu (42.5); LA Johnson (82.7)

Really? JJ has made that much of an impression already??

 

[Karate61]

If we limit AP, and beat the stuffing out of Palmer, we will be okay.

Noteworthy, Palmer has been sacked 21 times this year in 6 games. I would guess Palmer is going to get the stuffing knocked out of him. Maybe knocked out of the game as the Rams have done so to him in the past.

 

[Jorgeh0605]

Their ST's do better than our ST's.

I'm pretty confident in saying we have the best ST in the league. Our's wins us games.

 

[DaveFan'51]

They are desperate to win at this point. This is likely their last year of relevance before a rebuild with Palmer/Fitzgerald easing into retirement and Bruce Arians on the hot seat.

When the Rams finish destroying the Cards this week-end Palmer and Fitzgerald and Peterson and Arians can start planning there retirement!

 

[CGI_Ram]

Get ready to hear the media hype Adrian Peterson before this one.

Ignoring he’s been mostly irrelevant the last two seasons, accumulating 287 yards on 90 carries / 3.2 yds per carry... and that INCLUDES his monster game last week.

I worry more about defending the pass than what AP offers at this stage.

 

[RamBall]

This will be a tough game, but we have already faced two of the best backs in the league who are much younger than AP, and we held them in check (other than LF's 75 yd TD run.) I'm sure we will game plan to shut him down. If we limit AP, and beat the stuffing out of Palmer, we will be okay. My fear as always, when we play them, is Fitzgerald having a big game. He is the juice which makes their offense click. So we need to make sure he doesn't have a big game either.

And be weary of the back up QB, whoever he is. He will likely see at least 1 snap, as we know palmer will get dinged if not broken.

 

[kurtfaulk]

Get ready to hear the media hype Adrian Peterson before this one.

Ignoring he’s been mostly irrelevant the last two seasons, accumulating 287 yards on 90 carries / 3.2 yds per carry... and that INCLUDES his monster game last week.

I worry more about defending the pass than what AP offers at this stage.

To be fair he was injured for 15 games last season and the saints gave him a run once every 5 attempts. He needs to be fed the ball like he was the last game. Won't be easy for the rams.

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[~lyser]

Fucking hate that this game is in London. We could get jumped by soccer hooligans on the way to the field. We could choke on an order of fish 'n chips. A palace guard could ignore us to death. We might need a dentist. We could be knackered from the flight. The crew might DNA rifle up the coach to QB comm system. The game could be a damp squib for for any number of reasons. Goff might chunder from nervousness. I hope it's not brass monkeys out on Sunday. These cardinal fans are talking a lot of tosh. At least we will be off for a fortnight after this game. I'll be gutted if we lose...ok I'll stop.

Cheers. Sorry for taking the piss.

 

[LARams_1963]

Yeah, still sticks in my craw that this London game is a Divisional game. These International games should be inter-conference games. They're robbing us of one of our top 3 home games.

 

[LesBaker]

We are still a team that is 3-3 despite a relatively easy early schedule. We have 3 wins by a total of 11 points, against teams with a combined 4 wins, 2 of the 3 in overtime vs very bad teams. 3 losses by a combined 50 points. At -39, only 3 teams in the NFL have a worse win-loss point spread. Only the Bears, Colts and Browns have been worse by that measure...some bad teams.

And the Rams are coming.

This is likely their last year of relevance before a rebuild with Palmer/Fitzgerald easing into retirement and Bruce Arians on the hot seat.

Well Arians is a genius so 16-0 next year.

I would guess Palmer is going to get the stuffing knocked out of him. Maybe knocked out of the game as the Rams have done so to him in the past.

I think the coaches are wondering how to draw up all new plays to keep the Rams from being in the backfield all game long. This is the most ferocious pass rush they have faced.

Yeah, still sticks in my craw that this London game is a Divisional game. These International games should be inter-conference games. They're robbing us of one of our top 3 home games.

Well it makes sense from a marketing standpoint that the games have some relevance to sell to The Mother Country. It's easier to sell to those bloodthirsty hooligans across the pond.

And oh by the way the NFL doesn't give a fuck about what you think about your home games.

 

[Ram65]

I thought they are realistic. They looked out of it before the last game. Peterson gives them some hope. Their offensive line perked up last week. Rams defense has to play like both halves are the second have! They realize this is a big chance to get back in the divisional race. It could be their last chance.