Something for the Rams Coaching Team to Read...

[V3]

I think the resistance would not come in by adding some different warm up stuff or exercises it would be having THAT work be a priority over other stuff early in camp and also limiting camp work loads.

The CBA needs to be changed. They need to be following regimens like those suggested in the article during the off season before camp even starts.

 

[fearsomefour]

The CBA needs to be changed. They need to be following regimens like those suggested in the article during the off season before camp even starts.

I meant more along the lines of the coaches going for it. Even if the CBA had no issue with it I could see a coach not going for being told by a trainer that so-n-so needs to sit out todays practice to do "pre-hab" work for injury avoidance. Some would probably be fine with it I would think most would not.

 

[Debacled]

Interesting read.

That said, any team's strength and conditioning coach worth his salt knows all about this already. Its the same principle when squatting, avoid the valgus knee or tears and injuries follow. Landing from a jump is essentially just like squatting. You see a VERY high incidence of ACL/knee injuries in female athletes (soccer in particular) due to the hips naturally being wider for females leading to a collapsing knee.

That said, testing for guys doing this will not have anything to do with reducing ACL tears per say. We are talking about athletes that are reacting virtually on instinct, these guys are already making their next three cuts or moves up in their heads while in the air. Step one isn't going to be force my knee out when I land. Its gonna be cut left or right to get around the DB to get more yards.

Noting will reduce injury incidence until they fix the decreased practice time allowed that came about in the last CBA. We may be nearing if not at the peak of human performance in the NFL when it comes to strength, speed, and power. Athletes still need conditioning. And leaving it up to them and virtually barring them from team's facilities is not a good way to go about it.

Another side note to anyone dealing with a physical type injury (soft tissue or otherwise). Make sure you check out the rest of the "exercise/health" world before following a doctors advice to a T. Doctors and other medical professionals (such as physical therapists, physiologists, and even chiropractors) are all a part of the medical field but do come from different schools of thought and implementation. Doctors are pretty much taught to go straight to drugs and surgery, whereas therapy inclined professionals (PTS, ect) tend to lean more towards rehab. It isn't hippy dippy, just people going off of what they were taught to do. Neither side is always right and neither side is always wrong. Gotta remember there are always people who are terrible at their chosen profession as well.

 

[shaunpinney]

The doctors and physical therapists and their nurses and assistants like the one you saw are real heroes in my book. They don't take the lazy way, they work hard looking for what works and what doesn't and don't BS you. I just saw a specialist once for a frozen shoulder. The quack wanted to cut me open and was explaining how is was bone on bone etc... Went to a physical therapist and he diagnosed me like shaunpinney in about 10 minutes and told me I'd be fine. Couple months later I was fine. I am finding there are a lot of crooked, stupid, and lazy doctors out there. I Yelp etc... any doctor I have to see now. Buyer beware big time.

Like you I'd been told it was a build up of cartilage and surgery was the only option - I'm so happy I didn't go down that road!

 

[V3]

I meant more along the lines of the coaches going for it. Even if the CBA had no issue with it I could see a coach not going for being told by a trainer that so-n-so needs to sit out todays practice to do "pre-hab" work for injury avoidance. Some would probably be fine with it I would think most would not.

No one would have to sit out because this sort of thing is done before training camp even begins.

 

[Athos]

Add yoga to this and you just may have something.

 

[fearsomefour]

No one would have to sit out because this sort of thing is done before training camp even begins.

It depends I guess. I thought the article mentioned training camp reps as well, at least early in training camp. I would think coaches/teams would be good with it as this is mostly conditioning stuff, learning play books....I think 90 percent of the rosters are set before camp opens.

 

[V3]

It depends I guess. I thought the article mentioned training camp reps as well, at least early in training camp. I would think coaches/teams would be good with it as this is mostly conditioning stuff, learning play books....I think 90 percent of the rosters are set before camp opens.

I may have missed something while reading it. What I was going off of was this part:

Hewett has tracked ACL data since before the 2011 lockout and the current collective bargaining agreement. When injuries rocketed up immediately after the lockout, he hypothesized it was just a matter of athletes rushing onto the field after months of relative inactivity. But the numbers never really came down. And ACL tears do tend to cluster around training camp and the preseason.

The 2011 collective bargaining agreement added a dizzying array of restrictions on offseason training. The nine-week OTA period is broken into three phases. Strength and conditioning, with no on-field work, is limited to the first three-week phase. After that, coaches can schedule 90-minute on-field practices, while players are only required to be at the team facility for four hours; factor in everything from meetings to suiting up, and conditioning gets the short shrift.

The CBA rules were designed to severely limit full-contact practices and keep coaches from requiring 60-hour work weeks in May, both worthy goals from a player-safety standpoint. But the rules squeezed out much of the offseason conditioning work. That's a problem, because the exercises and drills that can prevent ACL tears and soft-tissue injuries take additional time and must be reinforced over a series of weeks.

"These guys need to be doing those drills two months before they get on that field," Hewett said.

Players then take a month off before returning to training camp, where on-field practice time dwarfs conditioning time and, as we have seen, coaches are too quick to return players to immediate football-like activities.

"There's a much shorter ramp in terms of available time for player training, and we see things like excessive player load scores," McCoy said. "Those increased player load scores are adding up to a lot of non-contact soft-tissue injuries."