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Ok guys, need some advice here. I have dropped almost 20 lbs that I can ill afford to lose. Down to about 150 on a 5 10 frame.Any advice on diets to keep weight on, Since I burn about 1000 calories per run, plus banging nails all day, and on an almost 3000 calorie diet as it is,I can't shove any more food in

Not that I am a nutrional expert but I wouldn't just eat junk because that is not the type of weight you want to put on. I don't know what your diet is now but there are meal supplements that are high calorie, muscle milk is high calorie protien, red meat, and perhaps increase your carb intake.
 

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Not that I am a nutrional expert but I wouldn't just eat junk because that is not the type of weight you want to put on. I don't know what your diet is now but there are meal supplements that are high calorie, muscle milk is high calorie protien, red meat, and perhaps increase your carb intake.

Not really a junk food fan anyway.

Breakfast usually consists of 3 egg omelet with some whole wheat toast and a glass of OJ. Mid morning snack usually a few granola bars and some fruit, or a fruit salad. Lunch varies depending on the heat, but most times its a salad ( about 2-3 cups greens with maters, cukes and some tuna ,chicken, or smoked fish topping. after work always some peanut butter and crackers. Dinner always always consists of meat, veggies and rice or noodles along with a salad. Night time snack usually ice cream with some fresh fruit topping and crushed peanuts or almonds. I always carry a can of mixed nuts with me to work.. a great snack when it is hot outside. Also drink alot of water... over 72 oz a day easy.

Lactose intolerant so there goes alot of options unless I take pills to counter act it. Wifey doesnt eat beef so red meat is a rarity in our house.

and yes, I am still only 150 lbs LOL
 

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Rule of thumb is 100 calories burned per mile so I wouldnt necassarily assume the weight loss is due to running. In fact many people find that they gain weight when training for a big race. That's a lot of weight to lose, I would strongly advise seeing a doctor. Plus, with you working outside in what was a pretty hot summer in the east, that may have more to do with it.
 

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have my 50th Bday physical coming up (too fast) so I will be seeing a doctor soon.

I just started the 3000 calorie diet last week, and it seems to be paying off. Up a lb so far without changing my running routine

Thanks to you both for the help. Gotta make ya proud !!!
 

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have my 50th Bday physical coming up (too fast) so I will be seeing a doctor soon.

I just started the 3000 calorie diet last week, and it seems to be paying off. Up a lb so far without changing my running routine

Thanks to you both for the help. Gotta make ya proud !!!

Rhody,
I am glad to hear that your weight is increasing. You're doing a great job with your training. Keep it up man.
 

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Is that runners code for " ain't no way you are going to finish in 2 hours"

Race isn't until end of October.. Plenty of time

You gonna run that race?

And BTW, I'm running an 18 mile race in a couple weeks. A buddy of mine is doing it as well. You know what I said to him? "Yo man, no matter what happens, we'll both get a PR".....
 

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First post in this thread, I used to do quite a bit of running in High school, but haven't really done any though college and since. Started running again a few weeks ago and ran my first 10K yesterday. Finished in 49 minutes which I consider to be pretty good given the amount of training time I've been able to put in so far.
Looking to do my local half marathon next year so starting training in earnest now. Hopefully posting here will help keep me motivated :D
 

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You gonna run that race?

And BTW, I'm running an 18 mile race in a couple weeks. A buddy of mine is doing it as well. You know what I said to him? "Yo man, no matter what happens, we'll both get a PR".....

yup..still planning on it just have to scale back my goal a bit I think.... doesnt look like 2 hours is a feasible time..my legs are too short !!!Weight has stabilized now..up to 154. Went out and bought a scale since I was using the eye scale, and knew I was losing too much. Stepped on it one morning and it read 148.6. Now I weigh myself before and after each run, no matter what the distance is, and keep a record

Wifey just brought home a book from library called "CHI RUNNING" by Danny Dreyer..basically a guide to running injury free. Rather interesting concepts.

Good Luck in the 18 miler (30k?) That may be my next goal, but my wife thinks I am nuts LOL
 

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@dieterbrock and @Goose .... tell me if this sounds familiar:

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You do it. I do it. We all do it — this is pretty close to the conversation we have with ourselves during a race, isn’t it?

Mile 1) I feel so fast. I know I’m going to PR today. The taper must’ve really worked because I am flying. I am passing so many people already!

Mile 2) This pace feels super easy. Maybe I should adjust my goal and go faster? I mean, I could really have a breakthrough today.

Mile 3) Okay, not really passing anyone any more. Let’s go back to the A goal. But I still feel good. Legs are still happy. I can do 5Ks in my sleep.

Mile 4) Less than double digits to go. Oh great, I’m counting down already? 9 miles is a long way to count down. I really should stop looking at my watch.

Mile 5) Only 5 more miles plus a 5K to go. Ugh, I promised myself to stop doing runner math. But I’m still on pace to reach my goal.

Mile 6) I really don’t like uphills. Or downhills. Or running on flat surfaces too long.

Mile 7) Legs are not feeling quite so fresh any more. How are we just past the halfway point? I feel like I’ve been running a really long time already.

Mile 8) Why do I ever think this is a good way to spend a weekend morning? I could be drinking mimosas. I could be sleeping. I could not be running.

Mile 9) I’ll be okay if I don’t hit my A goal today. Really. It’s going to be hard to run this fast for 4 more miles.

Mile 10) Must. Not. Walk. If I start walking, it is going to be hard to start running again. Okay, maybe I’ll walk for just a few seconds. No wait, I’m too close to my goal.

Mile 11) Okay, if I just hit my goal, I promise I will never race a half marathon again. If I run, it will just be for fun. No time pressure.

Mile 12) This course and my GPS watch are clearly wrong. This is clearly longer than a mile. Why does this mile feel so much longer than all the other miles?!

Mile 13) SUCK IT UP. Seriously, just one more dumb mile and you’re done. Forever. Just make it to the finish line and I won’t ever sign up for another race.

Last 0.1) THERE’S THE FINISH LINE!!! I love running! Why would I never race again?! This is the best feeling! Look at me! Look at me! I am running so fast to the finish line! I love racing!
 

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@dieterbrock and @Goose .... tell me if this sounds familiar:

© Martin Schlecht | Dreamstime.com

You do it. I do it. We all do it — this is pretty close to the conversation we have with ourselves during a race, isn’t it?

Mile 1) I feel so fast. I know I’m going to PR today. The taper must’ve really worked because I am flying. I am passing so many people already!

Mile 2) This pace feels super easy. Maybe I should adjust my goal and go faster? I mean, I could really have a breakthrough today.

Mile 3) Okay, not really passing anyone any more. Let’s go back to the A goal. But I still feel good. Legs are still happy. I can do 5Ks in my sleep.

Mile 4) Less than double digits to go. Oh great, I’m counting down already? 9 miles is a long way to count down. I really should stop looking at my watch.

Mile 5) Only 5 more miles plus a 5K to go. Ugh, I promised myself to stop doing runner math. But I’m still on pace to reach my goal.

Mile 6) I really don’t like uphills. Or downhills. Or running on flat surfaces too long.

Mile 7) Legs are not feeling quite so fresh any more. How are we just past the halfway point? I feel like I’ve been running a really long time already.

Mile 8) Why do I ever think this is a good way to spend a weekend morning? I could be drinking mimosas. I could be sleeping. I could not be running.

Mile 9) I’ll be okay if I don’t hit my A goal today. Really. It’s going to be hard to run this fast for 4 more miles.

Mile 10) Must. Not. Walk. If I start walking, it is going to be hard to start running again. Okay, maybe I’ll walk for just a few seconds. No wait, I’m too close to my goal.

Mile 11) Okay, if I just hit my goal, I promise I will never race a half marathon again. If I run, it will just be for fun. No time pressure.

Mile 12) This course and my GPS watch are clearly wrong. This is clearly longer than a mile. Why does this mile feel so much longer than all the other miles?!

Mile 13) SUCK IT UP. Seriously, just one more dumb mile and you’re done. Forever. Just make it to the finish line and I won’t ever sign up for another race.

Last 0.1) THERE’S THE FINISH LINE!!! I love running! Why would I never race again?! This is the best feeling! Look at me! Look at me! I am running so fast to the finish line! I love racing!

Kinda sounds like being a rams fan, but you gotta shift the days a bit.By Thursday we start believing we can win, Friday we know we can win, Saturday we expect to win, then Sunday comes.... WE SUCK! Monday, maybe it wasnt so bad. Tuesday you know I think a break here or there.... Wednesday comes wash rinse repeat

Chi Running is a good book, really helps to spend another 15-20 and get the dvd, only so much you can comprehend by reading
 

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Kinda sounds like being a rams fan, but you gotta shift the days a bit.By Thursday we start believing we can win, Friday we know we can win, Saturday we expect to win, then Sunday comes.... WE SUCK! Monday, maybe it wasnt so bad. Tuesday you know I think a break here or there.... Wednesday comes wash rinse repeat

Chi Running is a good book, really helps to spend another 15-20 and get the dvd, only so much you can comprehend by reading

yeah, my reading comprehension really sucks.


Maybe I should get the DVD ;)
 

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yeah, my reading comprehension really sucks.


Maybe I should get the DVD ;)
I think a lot of videos are available on youtube as well.
Its a great book and I definitely have changed my running form in accordance to Dreyer's theory.
Old school theory of running was to take long strides, crash the heel and roll off the forefoot. New age is entirely different!

As for the weight loss, we are polar opposites. The more I run, or more appropriately, when I am training, I gain weight. And Im pretty heavy to begin with
 

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I think a lot of videos are available on youtube as well.
Its a great book and I definitely have changed my running form in accordance to Dreyer's theory.
Old school theory of running was to take long strides, crash the heel and roll off the forefoot. New age is entirely different!

As for the weight loss, we are polar opposites. The more I run, or more appropriately, when I am training, I gain weight. And Im pretty heavy to begin with

LOL...think my sarcasm went right over your head..
 

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First post in this thread, I used to do quite a bit of running in High school, but haven't really done any though college and since. Started running again a few weeks ago and ran my first 10K yesterday. Finished in 49 minutes which I consider to be pretty good given the amount of training time I've been able to put in so far.
Looking to do my local half marathon next year so starting training in earnest now. Hopefully posting here will help keep me motivated :D
49 minutes 10k? Wow, thats pretty darned good.
Welcome to the chat.
I love running and love watching others get the pleasure out of it. Im not fast, never was, and at 47 dont plan on getting any faster. I like the distance runs, particularly 26.2

So I live in a small town and only a block or two away from my wife's sister and her family. We have 2 girls, they have 3 boys. We're kind of like 1 big family. In any event, the boys picked up the running bug partly due to watching me run for years. My nephew is a freshman on the cross country team and he LOVES it.
One day he tells me how the coach promised him that if he (or any runner) were to break 19 minutes for a 5k, the "reward" was that they got invited to join the varsity team when they do interval training. Haha. Gotta love it. Thats the reward?
So he ran a 5k in August in 21:15, pretty good but he wasnt happy
Local 5k a couple weeks later in 20:16, very good but still not happy
1st meet of the season and he ran 19:36, he was psyched but kept his eye on the prize
Went and watched him run Monday and he pulled off an 18:43
Careful what you wish for kid....
 

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49 minutes 10k? Wow, thats pretty darned good.
Welcome to the chat.
I love running and love watching others get the pleasure out of it. Im not fast, never was, and at 47 dont plan on getting any faster. I like the distance runs, particularly 26.2

So I live in a small town and only a block or two away from my wife's sister and her family. We have 2 girls, they have 3 boys. We're kind of like 1 big family. In any event, the boys picked up the running bug partly due to watching me run for years. My nephew is a freshman on the cross country team and he LOVES it.
One day he tells me how the coach promised him that if he (or any runner) were to break 19 minutes for a 5k, the "reward" was that they got invited to join the varsity team when they do interval training. Haha. Gotta love it. Thats the reward?
So he ran a 5k in August in 21:15, pretty good but he wasnt happy
Local 5k a couple weeks later in 20:16, very good but still not happy
1st meet of the season and he ran 19:36, he was psyched but kept his eye on the prize
Went and watched him run Monday and he pulled off an 18:43
Careful what you wish for kid....
Thanks man, although bear in mind, I'm only 22, so I should be in pretty good shape at this point LOL. Yeah I love running too, always have really. Haven't really had the time to keep it up while I've been at college but now I'm finished, really enjoying being back on it. Setting myself a target of 2 hours for my first 13.1; Should be pretty achievable based on what I'm running at the moment.
Once I've done a couple of 13.1 distance races I'll be looking to do the London Marathon in a couple of years as my big, medium term goal. But that's a while away yet LOL.

That sounds awesome for your nephew, great to see younger people getting into running. Most people my age and younger are too concerned with gaming etc to get themselves outside. The improvements in his times there are pretty damn good, and it certainly sound like he's committed so I'm sure he'll enjoy the interval training. Although as you say, may end up regretting that one yet!
 

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@dieterbrock and @Goose .... tell me if this sounds familiar:

© Martin Schlecht | Dreamstime.com

You do it. I do it. We all do it — this is pretty close to the conversation we have with ourselves during a race, isn’t it?

Mile 1) I feel so fast. I know I’m going to PR today. The taper must’ve really worked because I am flying. I am passing so many people already!

Mile 2) This pace feels super easy. Maybe I should adjust my goal and go faster? I mean, I could really have a breakthrough today.

Mile 3) Okay, not really passing anyone any more. Let’s go back to the A goal. But I still feel good. Legs are still happy. I can do 5Ks in my sleep.

Mile 4) Less than double digits to go. Oh great, I’m counting down already? 9 miles is a long way to count down. I really should stop looking at my watch.

Mile 5) Only 5 more miles plus a 5K to go. Ugh, I promised myself to stop doing runner math. But I’m still on pace to reach my goal.

Mile 6) I really don’t like uphills. Or downhills. Or running on flat surfaces too long.

Mile 7) Legs are not feeling quite so fresh any more. How are we just past the halfway point? I feel like I’ve been running a really long time already.

Mile 8) Why do I ever think this is a good way to spend a weekend morning? I could be drinking mimosas. I could be sleeping. I could not be running.

Mile 9) I’ll be okay if I don’t hit my A goal today. Really. It’s going to be hard to run this fast for 4 more miles.

Mile 10) Must. Not. Walk. If I start walking, it is going to be hard to start running again. Okay, maybe I’ll walk for just a few seconds. No wait, I’m too close to my goal.

Mile 11) Okay, if I just hit my goal, I promise I will never race a half marathon again. If I run, it will just be for fun. No time pressure.

Mile 12) This course and my GPS watch are clearly wrong. This is clearly longer than a mile. Why does this mile feel so much longer than all the other miles?!

Mile 13) SUCK IT UP. Seriously, just one more dumb mile and you’re done. Forever. Just make it to the finish line and I won’t ever sign up for another race.

Last 0.1) THERE’S THE FINISH LINE!!! I love running! Why would I never race again?! This is the best feeling! Look at me! Look at me! I am running so fast to the finish line! I love racing!

That was good Rhody I laughed a few times on that. I felt that way during my first full but I have always felt pretty good during the halfs.
 

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As for the weight loss, we are polar opposites. The more I run, or more appropriately, when I am training, I gain weight. And Im pretty heavy to begin with

I am with you Dieter. The more I run the more I want to eat and not good food either. :)
 

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First post in this thread, I used to do quite a bit of running in High school, but haven't really done any though college and since. Started running again a few weeks ago and ran my first 10K yesterday. Finished in 49 minutes which I consider to be pretty good given the amount of training time I've been able to put in so far.
Looking to do my local half marathon next year so starting training in earnest now. Hopefully posting here will help keep me motivated :D

Nicely done jsimcox. Welcome to the thread it has been a lot of fun talking to Dieter and Rhody about running and the races that are coming up. Glad to see you will be a part of it.
 

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I am with you Dieter. The more I run the more I want to eat and not good food either. :)
Especially after a long run. I have a 20 miler on Saturday morning and then going out for dinner with the wife for our Anniversary. Gonna chow down under the guise that I "earned those calories" meanwhile, I'll easily eat my way in to calorie deficit. Lol