Rice reinstated

[Corbin]

Interesting hypocrisy

Interesting how fast someone supports a wife beater but that's non of my business I suppose

 

[HometownBoy]

1 name a rb on our squad with the talent of rice.
2 not necessarily saying iI like the idea
3 he would be cheapsass hell so why not

Who cares? We have 3 of them that are good. We don't need to waste another roster spot or money on something that isn't a position of need just to swoon for a name. Just throwing money at names who wows with no consideration of what your team really needs is how bad teams stay bad.

And he might not necessarily be cheap. He may be a PR disaster waiting to happen, but he's still a big name.

 

[bigdog2834]

Raiders?

 

[Rabid Ram]

Interesting how fast someone supports a wife beater but that's non of my business I suppose

Corbin I never once said iI supported him or what he did not one time. I have however played devil advocate since Fisher has no issue taking ttroubled players.

Matter of fact im not suse how in the world you would aascertain that iI support a wife beater by the post you quoted.

I simply stated that you had an interesting form of hipocrocy with your comment that rice is not needed and a wife beater but if Aaron Rodgers was in rices shoes you wwould jump all over it.

Finally your new here so I will remind you to watch yourself and not attack the poster in your attempt to support your ideology just the post itself

 

[Corbin]

Corbin I never once said iI supported him or what he did not one time. I have however played devil advocate since Fisher has no issue taking ttroubled players.

Matter of fact im not suse how in the world you would aascertain that iI support a wife beater by the post you quoted.

I simply stated that you had an interesting form of hipocrocy with your comment that rice is not needed and a wife beater but if Aaron Rodgers was in rices shoes you wwould jump all over it.

Finally your new here so I will remind you to watch yourself and not attack the poster in your attempt to support your ideology just the post itself

In where in my last post did 'I' say 'you' were a wife beater or support?
I didn't respond to your original post I just commented in the thread and you decided to respond. Seems like you need a chill pill.

 

[fancents86]

"People are great lawyers when defending their own troubles, but even better judges when persecuting others."

 

[Prime Time]

Corbin and Rabid Ram please stop making it personal. Thanks.
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Potential landing spots hard to find for Ray Rice in 2014
Posted by Josh Alper on November 28, 2014

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Judge Barbara Jones has reinstated former Ravens running back Ray Rice from his indefinite suspension after finding that Rice did not mislead the NFL about striking Janay Palmer Rice and knocking her unconscious in an Atlantic City elevator earlier this year.

The ruling frees Rice to sign with any team to continue his playing career, but a return this year doesn’t look particularly promising. In addition to the sizable baggage Rice carries as a result of hitting his now-wife, Rice is coming off a season that saw him run for 3.1 yards per carry and he would be coming in cold to a new team with little time left in the regular season.

In looking at potential landing spots, we’re eliminating teams out of playoff contention since the benefits of adding Rice wouldn’t make much of a difference to them this season when compared to the negative attention such a move would likely create. Among teams with active playoff hopes, one team jumps immediately to mind but, as if to illustrate the difficulties Rice faces getting work this year, they are reportedly uninterested in Rice’s services.

Colts: The Colts lost Ahmad Bradshaw for the season, leaving them with the underwhelming combo of Trent Richardson and Dan Herron at tailback. Rice could give them some of what they lost in the passing game with Bradshaw gone and he knows Colts coach Chuck Pagano from Indianapolis, but, as mentioned, there have already been reports that the Colts are not interested in pursuing Rice.

Cardinals: Arizona currently ranks 31st in the league in rushing yards per game and they signed Michael Bush off the street this week, so they are looking for help alongside Andre Ellington in the backfield. Bush wasn’t any more productive than Rice last season, but he does look like a better fit as a more power-oriented back since Ellington has been fairly effective catching passes out of the backfield.

Falcons: The Falcons haven’t been much better on the ground than the Cardinals, but their issues on the offensive line make it hard to believe that Rice would be able to do much more than Steven Jackson, Devonta Freeman and Jacquizz Rodgers offer the team.

Lions: In the event that Reggie Bush’s ankle injury continues to keep him on the sidelines, the Lions could be in the market for backfield help. There’s no sign that’s the case at this point, however, and Joique Bell and Theo Riddick were effective on Thanksgiving.

Broncos: Continuing along the theme of teams dealing with injuries, the Broncos are waiting to get Ronnie Hillman and Montee Ball back in the lineup. Their offense isn’t an easy one to pick up, though, and C.J. Anderson appears to have it down pat, which doesn’t leave much reason to go down the Rice road.

Chargers: The Chargers rank near the Cardinals and Falcons and were once victimized by a Rice catch-and-run on 4th-and-29, so they saw first-hand what he can do with the ball in his hands. They also just got Ryan Mathews back from injury and they have run for 270 yards in the last two weeks, leaving them much less likely to be in the market for backfield help.

 

[Jumava1968]

Fisher is known to be good with taking on troubled players tthere's a chance he ccould end up here

No just no

 

[Ky Ram]

There was really no legal justification for Badell extending his suspension in the 1st place. I don't buy the "seeing it made it more real bs". He told him he knocked her the f out, the 1st video showed her knocked the f out. He extended it because he got ripped apart in cyberspace.
Rice is gonna have a hard time signing with a team this year, but he'll catch on somewhere next year most likely. Hopefully he's learned his lesson.

 

[Athos]

As graphic as the whole incident was, what does it mean that the woman not only stayed with him but married him? Seems like if she could forgive him, it might need to be considered...

Because domestic violence has always been significantly more complex than that.

That POS is still a POS. And I hope no team does. The team that does sign him......I hope KARMA bitch slaps the entire FO.

 

[RamzFanz]

As graphic as the whole incident was, what does it mean that the woman not only stayed with him but married him? Seems like if she could forgive him, it might need to be considered...

It doesn't mean anything really. Abuse victims often remain with their abuser and support them. This is why most states no longer require a victim to press charges.

 

[Thordaddy]

If I was an exec. and in view of the fact that the Ravens are probably on the hook for Rice's salary ,I'd offer him a contract for the league min. and add in incentives that paid womens shelters x amount per yard gained ,y for TD's etc. and let him do something to help people like his wife when they fall victim to guys like him. OTOH his production has been declining steadily and it's not a foregone conclusion that even though some of those teams are thin at RB that Ray is the back his past accomplishments suggest and that he would be added for anything but depth.

I wonder when people say things like " he should never play again" what exact job do they think he aught to be allowed to perform ?Does he have to resort to a life outside the law ? Devote the rest of his life to charity work? What he did was inexcusable but it wasn't a capital crime ,some measure IMO is indicated here,IMO he should have any door that would enable him to make amends left open .
Do I want him here? No ,but I won't pretend it's not my own selfishness that is the motive for that desire.

 

[LazyWinker]

Fisher is known to be good with taking on troubled players tthere's a chance he ccould end up here

1 name a rb on our squad with the talent of rice.
2 not necessarily saying iI like the idea
3 he would be cheapsass hell so why not

The year Rice had last year... give me his Rutgers teammate Brian Leaping Leonard.

 

[Thordaddy]

It doesn't mean anything really. Abuse victims often remain with their abuser and support them. This is why most states no longer require a victim to press charges.

True, and it may well be she stayed for the community property she gained and he only married her because he expected it to lessen the punishment.

 

[Faceplant]

True, and it may well be she stayed for the community property she gained and he only married her because he expected it to lessen the punishment.

Very possible. Believe me, the only person that wants Ray to get signed more than Ray....is Janay. Insult to injury is that the punch that knocked her out, all but cut down her money tree as well.

 

[Boffo97]

If I was an exec. and in view of the fact that the Ravens are probably on the hook for Rice's salary ,I'd offer him a contract for the league min. and add in incentives that paid womens shelters x amount per yard gained ,y for TD's etc. and let him do something to help people like his wife when they fall victim to guys like him. OTOH his production has been declining steadily and it's not a foregone conclusion that even though some of those teams are thin at RB that Ray is the back his past accomplishments suggest and that he would be added for anything but depth.

I wonder when people say things like " he should never play again" what exact job do they think he aught to be allowed to perform ?Does he have to resort to a life outside the law ? Devote the rest of his life to charity work? What he did was inexcusable but it wasn't a capital crime ,some measure IMO is indicated here,IMO he should have any door that would enable him to make amends left open .
Do I want him here? No ,but I won't pretend it's not my own selfishness that is the motive for that desire.

I'm pretty sure the NFLPA wouldn't allow a contract with built in donations like that.

I would think whatever contract he gets would have incentives built in to make sure he stays out of trouble though.

As far as whether or not he should work again, that's up to him and a football team... but at the same time, we have the right to say that a football team that signs him has acted poorly.

 

[moklerman]

Because domestic violence has always been significantly more complex than that.

That POS is still a POS. And I hope no team does. The team that does sign him......I hope KARMA bitch slaps the entire FO.

Okay, but is the other end of the spectrum even being considered here? Does losing your temper while drunk, one time, mean no forgiveness ever, no matter what?

I haven't followed this case too closely but most of the opinions I see imply that this incident is just the tip of the iceberg and that Rice has(and continues?) to abuse this woman.

 

[Thordaddy]

I'm pretty sure the NFLPA wouldn't allow a contract with built in donations like that.

I would think whatever contract he gets would have incentives built in to make sure he stays out of trouble though.

As far as whether or not he should work again, that's up to him and a football team... but at the same time, we have the right to say that a football team that signs him has acted poorly.

Acted poorly? Again what employer then wouldn't be acting poorly if they hired him? I'm not saying you don't have the "right " to say it I'm asking if and why anyone would hold the NFL to higher standards than the rest of the job market.

 

[Boffo97]

Acted poorly? Again what employer then wouldn't be acting poorly if they hired him? I'm not saying you don't have the "right " to say it I'm asking if and why anyone would hold the NFL to higher standards than the rest of the job market.

Whether they wish it to be the case or not, professional athletes are seen as role models, particularly by those who wish to become professional athletes.

There's a world of difference between saying that he shouldn't get hundreds of thousands of dollars (if not millions) to play professional football anymore and saying he shouldn't get any job ever.

 

[Thordaddy]

Whether they wish it to be the case or not, professional athletes are seen as role models, particularly by those who wish to become professional athletes.

There's a world of difference between saying that he shouldn't get hundreds of thousands of dollars (if not millions) to play professional football anymore and saying he shouldn't get any job ever.

See as the guy who ruled against the league said ,I think that's arbitrary,it wasn't our sensibilities laid out on that elevator floor ,it was a woman , who would be just as injured if a garbage man knocked her out as she was because a star athlete did it.

I think we need to guard against seeing ourselves as injured parties here just because some people decide to god athletes up on the one hand and then when they let us down we overcompensate and demonize them and want them punished more severely.

Charles Barclay has it right.................because I dunk a basketball doesn't mean I should raise your kids.
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