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10/10 for me and the Last Jedi. Loved it
 

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Well, not a review as such but things I like and didn't like.
SPOILERS below.

Its all subjective.
I'm a huge fan of Star Wars, been to several conventions, collect vintage figures, and post on Star Wars forums. That doesn't make my opinion any better than anyone else's but it means that I'm devoted to the original trilogy.
And that might be the problem I have with this film.

I think Disney is appealing to original Star Wars fans with the Force Awakens and more so Rogue One, but also taking Star Wars in a new direction with The Last Jedi.

I'll be looking forward to the Han Solo movie more than episode ix.


I'll offer a defense to some of those points, I think when it's all said and done with the trilogy out, a lot of people are going to look at this movie more like ESB, because of what it does. TFA was a very safe film designed to protect everything we love about Star Wars, but Rian Johnson knows that's how Star Wars dies (you can't just tell the same story over and over again) so he changes it.

I'll address individual points that I took from the film in the spoiler below.

The Force Awakens left us with a massive cliffhanger when Ray met Luke.
In the Last Jedi, Luke takes the lightsaber and tosses it over his shoulder. Two years for that! Really?
That's not Luke
.

I took that as Rian Johnson telling us that this movie isn't going to be what we think. J.J. Abrams made a super safe movie that protected everything we loved about Star Wars. The result is that Rey isn't her own character, she's just another Luke. She's literally using his lightsaber (yes obviously it's originally Anakin's), Kylo isn't his own character, he's just Vader, just a guy behind a mask, literally. Even Snoke isn't his own character, he's just Palpatine, disfigured and all. I love how they changed Luke's character, he's a broken man that needs purpose again. Rey wants Luke to show her what her place is, but Luke doesn't even know it either. If anything, Luke is a representation of Star Wars itself, and Rian Johnson is pointing out that nobody seems to know what to do with Star Wars, so they're telling the same story again, and they don't know what their place is. Rian is forcing them to change things up.

Leia floating through space looking like Mary Poppins.

Yeah that was a little weird. It makes Leia a badass, but I assumed it was them giving her a send off, I was just shocked it was early. I felt it was strange that she just survived the vacuum of space, but she's strong in the force, so it makes sense she would have some abilities, even if she doesn't live life as a Jedi. I am shocked they didn't give her a death though.

The casino scene and Frankie Four Fingers from Snatch drag out the film and could easily be left out.


I felt it was important for Finns development and redemption, I didn't have an issue with it. While it wasn't my favorite part of the movie, I feel it was good to have a time to recover from what else was happening.

Laura Dern. She robbed Admiral Ackbar from that suicide run. He's been flying that ship for how long? He should have gone out like that.

The voice actor who played Admiral Ackbar died and they didn't want to recast him, so they had to kill him off in a way that you didn't really notice.

Snoke, great potential character, but what a waste. However, it was a good plot twist.

I think it was important to kill him off and do so in the middle of the film to make him less important and give Kylo the ability to be his own character instead of just another puppet. I loved the entire fight surrounding that entire thing, the scene is among my favorites in the film, along with Luke's finish)

Not sure why they brought Captain Phasma back.

I think to give Finn some redemption, otherwise I agree she wasn't really all that important, I thought she'd have a bigger role. I think that's because Rian Johnson wants less emphasis on the First Order being just another fascist/Storm Trooper organization, and more emphasis on Kylo. I guess we'll see, but I agree she wasn't even needed.

Adam Driver as Kylo Ren is superb, however, his character has to man up a bit and I don't feel he's strong enough as a lead villain.

That's why it's important to kill of Snoke, so Kylo can be developed into a better, stronger character. I like how they set it up with him thinking that he's won and then being so angry over Rey turning him down that he doubles down on his darkness instead of turning away like people were thinking.

I think that's why I love the movie so much, because Rian Johnson is making it different. A lot of people had all these predictions, myself included, and it was nice to just enjoy the ride and see what happens. I love the ending off the film too, how he sends off Luke. Now we can see Rey become her own character, with her own story and her own lightsaber.

But that's just me, I really like the direction he took it, I like that it's new and we get new stories.
 

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Star Wars: The Last Jedi: 10/10.

I don't give many 10/10's, but this latest addition to the Star Wars movie-verse deserves it. I loved all of the characters, even Laura Dern's character. It was just an epic movie, start to finish.

EDIT: Oops, you didn't see my mistake. :p
 
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I liked Force Awakens, but this one was leaps and bounds ahead. There were some parts that others didn't care for, but as a huge star wars fan, it made perfect sense to me. Johnson, who's also a huge Star Wars fan, likely felt the same so the movie doesn't spoon feed information to you, which I like.

OK I came back from it. So much fun. The dog fights, lightsaber battles, the character development of Kylo, Rey, Luke, Poe, et al.

Also Daisy Ridley looks so much better with her hair down. :love:

10/10
 

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I'll offer a defense to some of those points, I think when it's all said and done with the trilogy out, a lot of people are going to look at this movie more like ESB, because of what it does. TFA was a very safe film designed to protect everything we love about Star Wars, but Rian Johnson knows that's how Star Wars dies (you can't just tell the same story over and over again) so he changes it.

I'll address individual points that I took from the film in the spoiler below.

The Force Awakens left us with a massive cliffhanger when Ray met Luke.
In the Last Jedi, Luke takes the lightsaber and tosses it over his shoulder. Two years for that! Really?
That's not Luke
.

I took that as Rian Johnson telling us that this movie isn't going to be what we think. J.J. Abrams made a super safe movie that protected everything we loved about Star Wars. The result is that Rey isn't her own character, she's just another Luke. She's literally using his lightsaber (yes obviously it's originally Anakin's), Kylo isn't his own character, he's just Vader, just a guy behind a mask, literally. Even Snoke isn't his own character, he's just Palpatine, disfigured and all. I love how they changed Luke's character, he's a broken man that needs purpose again. Rey wants Luke to show her what her place is, but Luke doesn't even know it either. If anything, Luke is a representation of Star Wars itself, and Rian Johnson is pointing out that nobody seems to know what to do with Star Wars, so they're telling the same story again, and they don't know what their place is. Rian is forcing them to change things up.

Leia floating through space looking like Mary Poppins.

Yeah that was a little weird. It makes Leia a badass, but I assumed it was them giving her a send off, I was just shocked it was early. I felt it was strange that she just survived the vacuum of space, but she's strong in the force, so it makes sense she would have some abilities, even if she doesn't live life as a Jedi. I am shocked they didn't give her a death though.

The casino scene and Frankie Four Fingers from Snatch drag out the film and could easily be left out.


I felt it was important for Finns development and redemption, I didn't have an issue with it. While it wasn't my favorite part of the movie, I feel it was good to have a time to recover from what else was happening.

Laura Dern. She robbed Admiral Ackbar from that suicide run. He's been flying that ship for how long? He should have gone out like that.

The voice actor who played Admiral Ackbar died and they didn't want to recast him, so they had to kill him off in a way that you didn't really notice.

Snoke, great potential character, but what a waste. However, it was a good plot twist.

I think it was important to kill him off and do so in the middle of the film to make him less important and give Kylo the ability to be his own character instead of just another puppet. I loved the entire fight surrounding that entire thing, the scene is among my favorites in the film, along with Luke's finish)

Not sure why they brought Captain Phasma back.

I think to give Finn some redemption, otherwise I agree she wasn't really all that important, I thought she'd have a bigger role. I think that's because Rian Johnson wants less emphasis on the First Order being just another fascist/Storm Trooper organization, and more emphasis on Kylo. I guess we'll see, but I agree she wasn't even needed.

Adam Driver as Kylo Ren is superb, however, his character has to man up a bit and I don't feel he's strong enough as a lead villain.

That's why it's important to kill of Snoke, so Kylo can be developed into a better, stronger character. I like how they set it up with him thinking that he's won and then being so angry over Rey turning him down that he doubles down on his darkness instead of turning away like people were thinking.

I think that's why I love the movie so much, because Rian Johnson is making it different. A lot of people had all these predictions, myself included, and it was nice to just enjoy the ride and see what happens. I love the ending off the film too, how he sends off Luke. Now we can see Rey become her own character, with her own story and her own lightsaber.

But that's just me, I really like the direction he took it, I like that it's new and we get new stories.

I haven't seen the movie yet, but one of my pastimes is picking apart movie/books/TV shows for the "why" of the story being told. Given that, I totally agree with your take on TFA. It was trying to re-tell the old trilogy for a new audience. The parallels were overwhelming. It all made sense, but it was a retread.

I can't wait to see this movie now. Thanks.
 

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I haven't seen the movie yet, but one of my pastimes is picking apart movie/books/TV shows for the "why" of the story being told. Given that, I totally agree with your take on TFA. It was trying to re-tell the old trilogy for a new audience. The parallels were overwhelming. It all made sense, but it was a retread.

I can't wait to see this movie now. Thanks.

Saw it again tonight, it was just as good.

I'm excited about where they're going to take the story next, especially since a few times in the movie Rian Johnson basically speaks to the audience to let them know it's okay, they're taking good care of the franchise and to trust them. Notably a speak Kylo gives to Rey in the throne room, and a little advice Leia gives Rey at the end of the movie.
 

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Everyone had rave reviews about the first one of this edition and it was fucking embarrassing

I will be taking my son to the "kids" movie Tuesday with the hopes you guys are right

Here is Noah Segan stroking Rian johnson's soft hands - those two guys.....

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We still think Segan has some compromising shots of he and Rian cause he's a bit player in all his flicks but can't get hired for the life of him anywhere else
 

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Didn't realize people were talking about it in this thread so will just copy and paste what I put in the other thread. My official rating would be 8/10.

**********SPOILERS**********


But if you're coming to this thread and you haven't seen it yet I think you're asking for it.


So what did people think? I am as big of a Star Wars fan as there is... grew up with it, had the toys, read the books that they killed canon wise, play(ed) the games, etc. I kinda feel robbed by the movie. But at the same time I liked it. My mood changes day to day. I think I need to watch it again to appreciate the setups.

I think it would have been a lot better if The Force Awakens was also made by Rian Johnson. Because the two very conflicting styles and purpose of all the characters didn't really flow well from one to the other. JJ Abrams set up all of these story lines and characters and Rian just either ignored, smacked down to meaningless, or out right killed them off. It was kind of weird.

And all I wanted was one great, awesome, dazzling fight where Luke Skywalker just dominates everyone. And while we do get a really cool scene with him he doesn't really do anything. I liked the aspect of Luke realizing he was the legend that everyone needed. Sacrificing himself to become a legend and to invoke another uprising is inspiring but I wanted more Luke and less everyone else. I was hoping, with Fisher's passing, that Luke would survive this movie so they could do more with him in IX. Obviously, he will be a force ghost I'm sure but it won't be the same.

Leia was cool and I am crushed that Carrie Fisher died because I think they were setting up a really awesome storyline with her for Episode IX. The biggest disappointment is that it will never be made with her in it. Was super excited to see her actually use the force albeit briefly. It made that moment more poignant due to her actual death because when the bridge explodes I actually thought that's how they were bumping her off. But they didn't and I was happy for that.

One of the coolest scenes I've ever seen in a movie visually was the ship ramming at light speed. That was breathtaking and actually made me say "Whoa" out loud. Really cool.

Captain Phasma deserved more and better for the second movie in a row. Disappointed at her one scene. Finn and Rose's whole adventure seemed meh.

Overall, it was a good movie and I'd probably give it a B. I think they left out some potential really powerful, emotional moments that would have had fan boys like myself standing in cheering at the end. It could have been one of the greatest movie ever but falls just short in areas. And I think that's due to them having two movies written by two different people with two different visions. And Episode IX goes back to JJ Abrams which might make it even more weird. But will see. I do really like Rian Johnson's writing and love his direction. I am excited for him making his own trilogy that has nothing to do with the Skywalker saga or current storylines... hopefully in the Old Republic era. Those, I think, will be amazing movies.
 

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The Last Jedi
8/10 maybe a 9

The movie was good. It could have been a lot better, but it also could have followed the story line setup by TFA which was basically the same exact story line from episodes 4 through 6.

It took some good departures, but it didn't set up is twist very well. They lacked emotional impact or surprise. Maybe reading the spoilers didn't help, but it just felt like when they had a twist it didn't really matter if the twist had our had not happened. Like it was an interesting footnote but unimportant.

I was also not impressed by the portrayal of Snoke. Very bland and boring. We also didn't find out who he was, which was lame.

I'm also confused about why certain people does and certain people didn't, given that certain people are actually dead and certain people are not.

But it was pretty good otherwise, besides. the obvious virtue signaling in the casino scenes.
 

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I was also not impressed by the portrayal of Snoke. Very bland and boring. We also didn't find out who he was, which was lame.

We didn't learn about the Emperor until after the OT, we'll learn more about Snoke, he just isn't important for this story, which I like better. I love how they're developing Kylo Ren.

If they have him leading the group of Dark Jedi (knight of Ren maybe?) Who helped him destroy the temple for the next movie I'll shit myself in excitement.
 

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We didn't learn about the Emperor until after the OT, we'll learn more about Snoke, he just isn't important for this story, which I like better. I love how they're developing Kylo Ren.

If they have him leading the group of Dark Jedi (knight of Ren maybe?) Who helped him destroy the temple for the next movie I'll crap myself in excitement.
That's definitely what it sounded like to me. The did call him the leader of the Knights of Ren TFA if I remember right.
 

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The Last Jedi

8/10

for now , but I'm sure that rating will fluctuate over time after multiple viewings and how it fits into Episode IX

but for the time being

8/10

The first two things I want to say is that I actually really liked this movie alot , and.....................I didn't understand it at all

****** Typical Spoilers Ahead ****************

Captain Phasma , other then that she looked cool , but what the heck was the point of her character , other then toy sales ? , she's hardly in both movies combined

Snoke , I actually thought Snoke was kinda cool , for the whole 5 minutes he's in the film as well , did think it was pretty clever how Kylo Ren kills him though , it was also nice to see that Elite Praetorian Guard's could put up at least a little bit of a fight

Luke Skywalker , thought the fight with Kylo Ren was also pretty clever , but I knew something was up as soon as he showed up because he was clearly a younger version of himself from when he was on the island with Rey , still don't know why he had to fade away there at the end

Muppet Yoda , I mean , how cool was that

Princess Leia , what happened to her spunk ?,really disliked what they did to her character in both movies , I mean I understand they wanted to show the weight of the responsibility she's had over the years , but they did a basic 180 with her character , instead of being all excited about seeing Carrie Fisher back on screen , she mostly just bummed me out

Finn , I liked him better here then I did in Force Awakens

Poe Dameron , not a fan

General Hux , love this guy , so glad they haven't killed him off yet

Kylo Ren and Rey , can't wait to see more

Rose Tico , a welcomed addition to the universe , looking forward to seeing more of her as well

Toro , I really thought he would do right by the end of the movie , aka Lando Calrissian , well , maybe next movie

Overall I've enjoyed both Force Awakens and Last Jedi , they may not be perfect , but I imagined them a lot worse ,

 

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Logan Lucky: 7.5/10

Had this movie for months but never got around to watching it but finally did. Good flick. Perfect description would be the redneck oceans 11. Worth a watch and glad I finally got around to it.

The Foreigner: 6.5/10

Jackie Chan is great in it, rest of the people were meh.

Bright: 7.5/10

Good movie and liked the premise of it. Orc's, Elves, magic and shit all set in the crime world of LA. Wish there would be a second one.
 

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pi/10

I know. pi out of 10? WTF?

Well--that's kinda what this film feels like. WTF!

Perhaps one of the most bizarre films I've ever seen. And yet--somehow I sort of enjoyed it.

The film is some sort of metaphorical tale involving a poet played by Javier Bardeem and his wife Jennifer Lawrence who live in a home that seems isolated from--the rest of the world--reality itself? Strange things happen--odd visitors arrive, led by ed Harris and Michelle Pfiffer(clearly enjoying their roles) as a husband and wife who are more than what they seem. The film gets more and more bizarre. It's actually pretty exhausting by the end. The tight camera shots follow Jennifer Lawrence as she moves about her house becoming more desperate by the moment as her world unravels and it feels almost like one long tracking shot(but it isn't). This worked though to put the audience into her desperate state of mind.

There are obvious biblical references, including a Cain and Abel moment and a Christ-like figure.

Darren Aronofsky who made other bizarre films like "Noah" and Black Swan" and "Requiem for a Dream" seems to be racing his mind to throw all of his ideas into the film. It's a lot. I don't think he wants you thinking too deeply about any of this. I think he just wants you to FEEL the film.

15 people will probably take away 15 different things.

It's like a Beatles song that people try to interpret. And you'll never know if there was any point at all.

But I found myself laughing at its absurdity, in a fun way.

I don't want to give too much away.

But the ending? Or at least--near the very end--the film basically says: You think we can't go further? How about this?

And something happens that kind of freezes you mentally. Should you laugh? Should you be angry? Should you be horrified?

The ending wraps up eventually as a sort of non-ending. It wraps it together in its bizarre way but I can't say anything without spoiling it.

Overall--yes--I enjoyed the film. And I'm not even sure why.

By the way--another weird film of his was called, "Pi".

And that wraps this back to the beginning of the review. Sort of.

 

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I can't stand movie theaters. Can't stop the film to go to the restroom. People making noises and using their phones. But the last movie I saw at the cinema was the Zookeeper's Wife. We had no idea what it was about as we don't read reviews and just happened to be at a movie theatre near the eatery. Turns out it was a Holocaust movie (Who knew with a title like that). Not a fan of the genre but this one was pretty good. Stars Jessica Chastain in the title role as a Polish Catholic who hides some Jews from the Nazis in the catacombs of the Warsaw Zoo during the Nazi Occupation of Poland. I hated the scene in which a Nazi shoots a beautiful eagle, I think it was. but otherwise it was quite good and well directed (i guess for I don't know zilch about what a director really does.). Jessica Chastain did a wonderful job and she is very pretty and all the other actors were quite good as well--even the guys who played the Nazis. Of course it's based on a true incident during WWII. Highly recommended. I would never go to see Last of the Jedi for I don't like
Science fiction. Too hard to figure out what's going on.