Rams and Janoris working on extension

[blue4]

I just think you gotta wait until at least mid year and sign the best performing player between him and TJ. Then you go with that guy, EG, MR, and Joyner. Too many ? marks on offense to be dropping 2nd contract money on 2 starting CBs. Either Foles plays well or doesn't, we're forking out for a QB contract next year. Either Quick becomes the #1 WR or not we are still going to he forking out for a playmaker at WR. Either Nick Fairley pans out or not we will be signing a good DT. McLeod, Barron, Brockers the list goes on and on. Resigning 2 CBs is luxury we probably can't afford, so wait to make sure we've got the right one.

 

[Rynie]

Well he's no Morris Claiborne, thanks @Rynie's Jurry (Jones) rigged Cowboys for their 2nd round pick so we could waste it on the one they call the Jackrabbit.

Lmao. Claiborne has to be one of the biggest busts in NFL history, especially since he was supposed to be the best defensive player in that class. We don't speak of him, ok?

 

[VegasRam]

Lmao. Claiborne has to be one of the biggest busts in NFL history, especially since he was supposed to be the best defensive player in that class. We don't speak of him, ok?

We definitely got lucky on that one.

 

[ram007]

All Fishers players are system guys. They neither get huge Free agency value nor play good outside his teams. If I were jj I would take the best offer possible from rams. If I were running Rams, I would wait a year.

 

[Dxmissile]

Unless of course Foles has a great year. Then you do have to worry about paying for a QB. AD will have to be paid eventually.

True but that's why they are working on an extension now and that's still too far to be worried about especially with the team option for the 5th year on Ad contract

 

[VegasRam]

Unless we get a home team discount by signing early then I really don't see the point of this. I just get the feeling that he is the type of guy who will get in trouble off the field once he signs a big contract

That's it in a nutshell. Problem with this discussion, is there are no numbers to look at. Maybe he likes it enough in St. Louis to take somewhat less than a theoretical max his agent is telling him. As far as his getting in trouble with a guaranteed contract - I guess it's possible but don't see it. He's already been paid $4M - enough for anybody to get in trouble. I know I would.

 

[…..]

Some great discussion in this thread with valid points.

I'd be happy to extend as long as we don't get too crazy with the money. JJ does need to mature though. I'm thinking he's a great piece on the defense, and his big play potential alone is worth the awful experience of reading his tweets.

He is just a piece though. Our defense is a great work and it only takes one weak link. The coaches need to get JJ under control and I think Greg will do just that.

 

[Rynie]

We definitely got lucky on that one.

Yes. Rams seem to do well with trades in the draft. And I love that Fisher trolled the foreskins by having the 6 players y'all acquired in that trade go do the coin toss. Too bad it's taken Jerry 19 years to learn how to draft wisely. *frowny face

 

[Dieter the Brock]

Don't you want to see him make smarter decisions off the field before you had him a multi-year deal worth six/seven-per-year?

What would constitute "smarter decisions" though? Just actions you deem socially acceptable?

Janoris is taking care of his 3000 kids, he's not getting arrested, he's not shooting people ... He's a really top notch corner and he's a Ram

So what if he expresses silly ideas on social channels - I mean isn't that what that crap is for?

All I hear from you is that JJ's tweets wrong in your opinion -- I mean is your social networking so damn pristine that it rises above offense on any level?

I mean who cares but you? Who is taking such great offense but you?

Do you not cheer for him when he takes it back to the house for a pick 6?

I just don't get how JJ's tweets, twits, or Instagram posts have anything to do with not resigning arguably our best CB?

The guy has worked his ass off and is a really good pro
Ugh....

 

[…..]

If we're talking about extending him and locking him up, wouldn't you like for him to be a top 10 CB? He's currently 50th.

Maybe a bargaining point. JJ at mid range money is great JJ to me.

 

[Big Willie]

JJ is one of my least favorite Rams players based on his seemingly selfish play and constant blunders. Having said that, I took a look at the potential UFAs and came to the conclusion It makes sense to consider extending JJ as he is my third most "important" player on the list. (I know they picked up the option on Brockers and that he will not be be a FA in 2016).

My priority list goes as follows:

1. Foles - taking a leap of faith that he can be Alex Smith like - extend now at A. Dalton type contract
2. Brockers - run stuffers take time to develop, remember Pickett - extend now
3. Jenkins - potential perennial pro bowler who lacks my trust- extend mid year
4. McLeod - ascending player who fits GW's system- extend mid year
5. Quick - Big bodied WR, should be cheap and still has upside - extend if healthy and back to form
6. Fairly - potential impact interior DL man, consider contract extension mid year
7. Zuerhlein - has the leg, but consistency not where I expect it - extend mid year
8. Harkey - decent player, not a big money extension - extend if pricing is right
9. Johnson - projects as 3rd outside CB on my team; not a slot guy - replace in 2016 draft if Joyner can hold up the slot and Gaines can solidify the other corner
10. Hayes/Sims - good backups, need contingent on Fairly signing - replace other through draft
11. Barron - luxury player? With McDonald and Alexander, he only gets resigned if we cannot extend McLeod or Alexander a bust

 

[shovelpass]

foreskins

Ha. Is thay what they changed it to?

 

[Dxmissile]

What would constitute "smarter decisions" though? Just actions you deem socially acceptable?

Janoris is taking care of his 3000 kids, he's not getting arrested, he's not shooting people ... He's a really top notch corner and he's a Ram

So what if he expresses silly ideas on social channels - I mean isn't that what that crap is for?

All I hear from you is that JJ's tweets wrong in your opinion -- I mean is your social networking so damn pristine that it rises above offense on any level?

I mean who cares but you? Who is taking such great offense but you?

Do you not cheer for him when he takes it back to the house for a pick 6?

I just don't get how JJ's tweets, twits, or Instagram posts have anything to do with not resigning arguably our best CB?

The guy has worked his ass off and is a really good pro
Ugh....

Lmao@3000 kids

 

[Rynie]

Ha. Is thay what they changed it to?

Haha. Foreskins, egirls, and vagiants. That's what they are.
Seriously though, if they are forced to change their name (which is dumb), they should just drop "red" and go by the 'skins.

 

[Memento]

I know you never defended Tru. I only threw that in because I think the general perception is he's a level-headed, dependable, intelligent guy with no off-field issues, which is not the case with JJ. I also understand that perception - just don't concur.

I don't personally agree with the hands-up gesture by the ferguson five, but I understand it, and even respect them for doing it. But it would NEVER influence my opinion of any of them as football players, or their perceived value to the team. And I wasn't, (am not), going after you Memento. I just get tired of people projecting what, in their world view, is a correct code of conduct as it pertains to players, when it consists entirely of their OPINION of how they feel people should act. There are obviously societal and legal lines that cannot ever be crossed, but being a goofball isn't one of them. I personally think the whole social media thing is ridiculous, but also realize it's a generational thing, as I didn't grow up with it.

Don't like JJ's play - fine. I'm cool with that.
Don't like what he says - too bad, live with it. Has nothing to do with his worth to the team.

brother. BTW, I have been looking at your avatar for months now, and STILL cannot figure out what the hell it is.

It's a multitude of things for me. I don't like how much he gambles and loses on those gambles when he covers the receiver. It makes him great in some aspects and worse in others. I'm just the kind of person who prefers their cornerbacks to be coverage first, you know?

Yeah, I personally have never used any social media site other than Tumblr (which is basically a blog) and only then it was because an old friend was using it, and I've let it fall into ruin pretty much. I'm twenty-four, and I honestly don't understand the need for social media. It's crazy how much the kids of today seem to rely on it.

As for my avatar? It's a Pokémon. One of the newer ones that nobody here (save for a few people) would know about, lawl.

 

[Rmfnlt]

What would constitute "smarter decisions" though? Just actions you deem socially acceptable?

Janoris is taking care of his 3000 kids, he's not getting arrested, he's not shooting people ... He's a really top notch corner and he's a Ram

So what if he expresses silly ideas on social channels - I mean isn't that what that crap is for?

All I hear from you is that JJ's tweets wrong in your opinion -- I mean is your social networking so damn pristine that it rises above offense on any level?

I mean who cares but you? Who is taking such great offense but you?

Do you not cheer for him when he takes it back to the house for a pick 6?

I just don't get how JJ's tweets, twits, or Instagram posts have anything to do with not resigning arguably our best CB?

The guy has worked his ass off and is a really good pro
Ugh....

I dunno... when I add up the botched plays, silliness on social media... what appears to be multiple unplanned pregnancies... I get a guy who seems to me to be immature and not the brightest bulb in the pack.

Given my drothers, I'd prefer just the opposite if I'm going to invest a few mil on him.

But that's just me. I'm pretty old and set in my ways about carrying one's self.

 

[VegasRam]

I don't think anyone here believes we're better off without him.
It's just the timing of the extension we're talking about, right?

I hope so.

 

[LACHAMP46]

How many did Patrick Peterson give up and many thinks he is a top 5 corner

And, IMO, PP is NOT a top 5 cb....Jenoris, IMO, has better coverage skills....is a better technical corner....

PP is just an athlete, but is just horrible at mirroring his man.

 

[Corbin]

Many people forgot that we had Janoris shadow one of the league's best WRs in Dez Bryant and Janoris shut him down while also picking off a pass and taking into the house. His great game was overshadowed by miscommunication in the secondary near the end. If not for one blown coverage, he'd have likely held Dez to less than 30 yards while also taking a pass intended for Dez to the house.

View: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000000398295/Week-3-Cowboys-vs-Rams-highlights

I'm sorry man I like reading your posts put I don't think JJ gave up the Dez TD due to horrible blown coverage. If you watch the highlights he gets turned around like a top on a double move and it doesn't appear that the defense they are in is planned for over the top safety help. You see the safeties later on but it doesn't appear the coverage was designed to help with JJ man. If I remember right he gave up a clutch 3rd or 4th down to Dez for a 1st down to keep a crucial drive alive. Janoris is barely ranked as a top half corner in the league and is average at best, I really hope we only extend him with an average contract.

 

[12intheBox]

I think positional rankings may be the worst thing that football fans have ever invented - and that includes these things: