Judge nullifies Brady's 4-game suspension

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He better be glad they're playing in Gillette tonight. If he just shows his face on the jumbotron, a flaming circus will ensue.
But if they were playing in NY tonight.... mercy, I can imagine the crowd erupting in boos everytime his face is shown. With just over a week left until game #1, I don't imagine this will die down by then.
Well, not that it matters much... but, in the court of public opinion, he still lost.

Gotta figure he'll get booed out of every stadium they play in this year.

Again, not that it'll bother him... both him and his coach are devoid of any conscience.
 

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really shocked by this - had this been a criminal court, i would be surprised if they weren't found guilty seeing as they like to use someone's 'record' against one..

And the Patriot's staff have a long record of cheating (McDaniels,Brady, belicheat)
 

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Well, not that it matters much... but, in the court of public opinion, he still lost.

Gotta figure he'll get booed out of every stadium they play in this year.

Again, not that it'll bother him... both him and his coach are devoid of any conscience.

The commissioner made Brady a sympathetic figure. Shit shit!
 

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It's like the little douchebag kid at school who gets in trouble, then cries to Mommy and Daddy so they can talk to the principal and get the teacher in trouble. Fuck the Pats. I hope Brady gets clobbered game 1, first series.
 

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The commissioner made Brady a sympathetic figure. crap crap!
Who said that?

I have to figure a large majority of NFL fans "know" what happened....

AND DON'T LIKE IT! :mad:
 

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Yea? Try looking at it from my perspective for a moment... #hangingonbyathread
I lived thru your perspective... twice. Once with the move from the LA Coliseum to Anaheim, and then again from Anaheim to StL. It sucks.... I know. I feel very bad for StL fans.
 

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As much as I hate it I think it had more to do with the NFL not being clear on the reason behind the suspension...was it for actually cheating...was it for interfering/lack of cooperation....

I think that it was about the fact the NFL needs to put something down to explain the decision on the suspension than that they couldn't do it. Actually this is reoccurring theme in law cases - we they do not seem to like to overrule you if you have a reason (any reason) but if you just toss it out there and say "cuss" with nothing backing it up they will smack you down.
In other words, the NFL with Roger Goodhell running it, wouldn't know how to present a case to save it's life. That is a pretty basic rule that they either ignored or felt they didn't need to follow.
 

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So this ruling isn't a matter of Brady cheating or not, its a matter of how the NFL handled the situation?

I know some people are going to play the "clean card" with Brady, but does this ruling really mean that?

No, it means the NFL didn't cross their T's and dot their I's. Its similar to when someone gets a case thrown out because the police didn't have a warrant to search where they did, and the evidence had to be removed from the case. When you don't follow the book exactly, it's hard to make things stick.
 

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Funny... I was always under the (false as it turns out) impression that Goodell was a lawyer.

Just looked it up and he went to Washington & Jefferson College in PA (near Pittsburgh). Seems to have a good reputation... but it's not like he went to Harvard or anything.

I dunno... sorta surprised me.

Just another useless fact brought to you by RMFNLT.
 

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Funny... I was always under the (false as it turns out) impression that Goodell was a lawyer.

Just looked it up and he went to Washington & Jefferson College in PA (near Pittsburgh). Seems to have a good reputation... but it's not like he went to Harvard or anything.

I dunno... sorta surprised me.

Just another useless fact brought to you by RMFNLT.
He's the son of a NY Senator :p
 

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I just would like everyone to think about...how the legal system can be twisted for the rich and famous...how certain individuals appear "innocent until proven..." and how some can appear "guilty until proven...". And how it relates to REAL life situations...not deflated footballs.
Must have missed it. Which side was the rich and famous and which was the downtrodden?

Funny... I was always under the (false as it turns out) impression that Goodell was a lawyer.

Just looked it up and he went to Washington & Jefferson College in PA (near Pittsburgh). Seems to have a good reputation... but it's not like he went to Harvard or anything.

I dunno... sorta surprised me.

Just another useless fact brought to you by RMFNLT.
Thought so too. I know daddy was a NY Senator and attorney. I think that is where he gleaned his power.
 

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The only good thing is after Sunday night, we won't have to listen to NFLN, espn, CBS, FOX, NBC, treat this as the only topic for discussion/debate. Until then, it will be the most talked/debated topic for everyone to chime in their opinion. I'm of the opinion if Goodell would have issued a 1-2 game suspension, it would have never gotten to this point. But he went "all-in" and lost. Roger, its time to lick your wounds, and get back to work. It's over, done, finished, and if he actually files an appeal, he will look even worse than he does now. Let it go Roger!

Let's get the season going! Go RAMS!
 

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Again, not that it'll bother him... both him and his coach are devoid of any conscience.

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I lived thru your perspective... twice. Once with the move from the LA Coliseum to Anaheim, and then again from Anaheim to StL. It sucks.... I know. I feel very bad for StL fans.
And we can end this derailment here - right?
 

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This is just a case of one Good ol boys club trumping another Good ol boys club.
Facts, due process and investigation had nothing to do with it.
 

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I just don't get it..

For years people complained that the NFL loves the Patriots. Now the NFL goes after them, and at the end of this, people are acting like the NFL conspired to get him off.

Here are the facts:

1. The NFL went after the Patriots and Brady, meaning they are no longer the "favorite child" (if they were in the first place)

2. A third party judge, with no bias either way, determined that the NFL shouldn't have suspended Brady - this would be like if your company tried to illegally do something to you and took them to court. This judge determined that the NFL didn't have grounds to suspend Brady - this is justice at work - IT'S A GOOD THING THAT BRADY WON'T BE SUSPENDED. If this were you and your company did something that they shouldn't have, you would want justice to prevail too.


Success breeds envy; it's long past time to let all this jealousy go - the Patriots didn't cheat to beat the Seahawks in the superbowl. They are a great team. Brady is a great player. Others have pointed out that the era of great QBs may be coming to an end, with most of the upper echelon QBs set to retire in a few years. Let's enjoy watching one of the greatest ever (while simultaneously hoping they lose).....but there's a fine line between hoping they lose every game (as I do), and wishing injury or just being so bitter about nothing. Because that's what this whole deflategate has been - NOTHING. You really don't think any other QBs inflate/deflate footballs? If you acknowledge they probably do (you'd be lying to yourself if you didn't), then you also agree that he shouldn't have been suspended in the first place.
 

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Let's see if the Pats can repeal their revoked 2016 1st round draft pick. Also expect a lot of dirty hits against Brady this season.
 

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I believe Patriots did doctor the Footballs. So the league decided to catch Patriots red handed and let millions of audience watch an NFL playoff game with their full knowledge that footballs may be doctored? Is this the "integrity" commissioner is referring to.
 

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At least the NFL fought it. But as we all said from the beginning, the two low level employees were scapegoated (they're both suspended indefinitely) while the higher ups walk.