How much is Le'Veon Bell worth?

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It's time to pay Le'Veon Bell, but here's why he might not be worth his price tag

The Steelers will have one of the league's most dynamic offenses next season. The degree of that dynamism will depend on several factors. Injuries are always a chief concern, and there's a chance that Martavis Bryant, fresh off a year-long suspension, slips up again.

Then there's Le'Veon Bell.

The NFL's best running back is without a contract; the Steelers slapped him with the franchise tag this spring, but Bell has yet to sign the one-year deal that would pay him $12.1 million in 2017. It's not unusual for players looking for a long-term commitment to hold off on signing the one-year franchise-tag offer, and the two sides have until mid-July to get a new contract done. At issue is whether the Steelers will pay Bell $12 million annually -- which would be $4 million more than the next highest-paid back in the league, LeSean McCoy of the Bills.

Worth noting: McCoy and Bell ranked second and third in running back efficiency last season, according to Football Outsiders' metrics, but McCoy will be 29 when the season starts while Bell will be just 25.

As it stands, Bell and the Steelers are on good terms, and the expectation is that either Bell will get a new deal before the start of the season or, worst case, he'll play on the one-year, $12.1 million franchise tag. But what happens to Pittsburgh if Bell isn't part of its 2017? What impact would that have not only on the continuity of an already-explosive offense but the team's chances for another deep playoff run? Because training camps are still weeks away, now is the perfect time to tackle that hypothetical.

Bell rushed for 1,268 yards last season (4.9 yards per carry), scored seven touchdowns and had 75 receptions for 616 yards and two more scores. He was even better on the ground during the postseason (65 carries, 357 yards, 5.5 yards per carry, two TDs) but a nonfactor in the passing game (four receptions, three yards, no TDs).

Of course, Bell's 2016 season ended like the two before: with him injured. This time, however, he participated in the playoffs, though he suffered a groin injury early in the AFC Championship Game against the Patriots. In 2015, a knee injury knocked him out of the second half of the season, and in 2014, a Week 17 knee injury kept him on the sidelines during the Steelers' wild-card loss to the Ravens. So for as valuable as Bell is, he has played in just two of the Steelers' last six playoff games. And in his four NFL seasons, he has appeared in 16 regular-season games just once, in 2014. Either because of injury or suspension, he has missed 17 games in that time.

During the 2014 postseason, the Steelers were left with no choice but to lean on first-year back Josh Harris and just-signed veteran Ben Taint. When it was over, the two had rushed for 44 yards on 14 carries (3.1 yards per carry) and no touchdowns as the Ravens cruised to a 30-17 win. A year later, the Steelers, again without Bell, had to turn to a running back-by-committee approach that included Fitzgerald Toussaint and Jordan Todman because Bell's backup, DeAngelo Williams, was also injured. The results were better; the duo combined for 168 yards on 45 carries (3.7 YPC) and a touchdown. And if not for a careless Toussaint fumble against the Broncos in the divisional-round matchup, the Steelers might have made back-to-back conference championship game appearances. But that's sort of the point; Bell doesn't fumble there.

Williams, when healthy, was a capable backup behind Bell. In 2015, with Bell sidelined for all but six games, Williams (then 32 years old) rushed for 907 yards (4.5 YPC) and 11 touchdowns. And last season, in a much more limited role, he had 343 yards (3.5 YPC) and four scores. Williams wasn't re-signed and the Steelers selected Pitt standout James Conner in the third round of the 2017 NFL Draft, and signed former Chiefs back Knile Davis to not only help the running game but also return kicks. It's reasonable to expect both players to be above-replacement-level contributors for the low, low price of $1.26 million combined in 2017. Is Bell worth 9.6 times the productivity of Conner and Davis?

He might be. But the Steelers have so many other play-making options that perhaps Bell is expendable. Remember, in that playoff loss to the Broncos, Pittsburgh was also without Antonio Brown, who you might recall was knocked silly on an illegal hit by Bengals linebacker Vontaze Burfict in the wild-card game. Up to that point, Brown had hauled in seven passes for 119 yards. A week later, Ben Roethlisberger and Martavis Bryant teamed up for nine receptions for 154 yards, but there was little else in the way of a passing game.

As a way of comparison with Bell, Brown -- who came into the league in 2010 -- has missed just one of the Steelers' 10 postseason games over that span. And since 2011, when he became a regular part of the offense, he has missed just four games. Put another way: You can make a case that Brown is more important to the Steelers' offense than Bell.

The Steelers signed Brown to a five-year, $73 million extension in February after a season in which he had 106 receptions for 1,284 yards and 12 touchdowns. And he did it with little to no help from the rest of the wide receiver corps. Bryant was suspended and his replacement, Sammie Coates, battled injuries and inconsistency for much of 2016 (21 catches, 435 yards, two TDs). Slot receiver Eli Rogers (48/594/3) was good in his first season but didn't keep defenses from double and triple-teaming Brown. In fact, when it was over, Bell was the Steelers' second-leading receiver.

Which reinforces the point that Bell is a special talent. Part of what makes him indispensable to Pittsburgh's offense is that he's as dangerous as a receiver as he is as a runner. That versatility makes life eminently easier for Steelers offensive coordinator Todd Haley while serving as a nightmare for opposing defenses. It's also why we're talking about Bell earning eight figures annually.

Consider the top running backs (in terms of annual average salary) behind McCoy's $8 million salary: Jonathan Stewart ($7.3 million), Doug Martin ($7.15 million), Lamar Miller ($6.5 million) and Chris Ivory ($6.4 million). They're all runners first, and offer little to nothing in the passing game. (Rookie Leonard Fournette will make $6.7 million in 2017 and he's also more runner than pass-catcher.)

For the Steelers, Bell is another chess piece that gives them one of the league's most explosive offenses -- to go along with Brown, Roethlisberger, rookie second-rounder JuJu Smith-Schuster and that offensive line. There are still questions at tight end (the team released Ladarius Green this offseason but is high on Jesse James) and at wide receiver (can Bryant stay out of trouble, can Coates play with consistency, etc.), but how different would this unit be in a world without Le'Veon Bell in the backfield?

We're not arguing that the Steelers would be better without Bell because, well, that's simply not true. But $12 million is a lot to pay any running back, particularly one that missed games due to injury and suspension. There's also the matter that the organization might not be interested in paying Bell $12 million, on average, for the next four or five years, partly because of what we mentioned above, and partly because running backs have a short shelf life. And oh by the way: There's also the long list of play-makers not named Bell currently on the Steelers' roster.

To reiterate what we wrote above: The Steelers are better with Bell but it's not clear he's worth an eight-figure salary for the foreseeable future, or that the offense would experience a precipitous drop off without him. The same can't be said for Brown, who averages $17 million a year, and no one questions if he's worth it.

For a team coming off an 11-5 record, a division title and an appearance in the AFC Championship Game -- and are better (on paper, anyway) now than they were at the end of last season -- these are good problems to have.
 

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Hopefully... the steelers fuck themselves on this deal one way or the other. I'm glad to see them in this pickle.

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In this modern NFL as a GM there's no way I'd "pay" a RB. Take one high, sure. Pay them median money for role guys, sure. But signing a top end guy to a commensurate contract? No way.

Money goes to impact players at positions where it's tough to find them. At least that's how I'd do it. QB absolutely. WRs absolutely. DE absolutely. Interior DL who can rush the passer absolutely. But you can find RB all over the draft, so I'd save the money on a position that is not only easier to find but also that has huge dropoff in play very quickly once they reach their shelf life. And while that can't be predicted, it is a fact the average shelf life for the position is brief.
 

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Bells 157 ypg in 2016 was better than any season Marshall Faulk ever had. Was Marshall Faulk expendable?

Hes special, you pay him.
 
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Bells 157 ypg in 2016 was better than any season Marshall Faulk ever had. Was Marshall Faulk expendable?

Bell copped 1887 in 2016. If you mean the 2215 he got two years ago which would be less than Faulks third best year OK.

What about the fact that he doesn't score at a rate close to Faulk?

This isn't even a conversation, Bell is not Faulk and has a lot more to prove before he is in the conversation in that fashion.

12MIL for a RB in todays game is over paying.
 

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Steelers are between a rock and a hard place. They would have to up the McCoy deal. I guess 9 Million a year with 24 guaranteed. Hard to do when he gets hurts.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/lesean-mccoy-5916/
LeSean McCoy signed a 5 year, $40,000,000 contract with the Buffalo Bills, including a $13,125,000 signing bonus, $18,250,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $8,000,000. In 2017, McCoy will earn a base salary of $6,000,000 and a workout bonus of $250,000, while carrying a cap hit of $8,875,000 and a dead cap value of $7,875,000.

POTENTIAL OUT: 2018, 3 YR, $27,300,000; $5,250,000 DEAD CAP
 

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It's funny, how y'all saying Le'Veon Bell shouldn't be paid, but here in Rams land the FO is grilled for letting Janoris Jenkins go in FA and not having Aaron Donald or Trumaine Johnson signed yet.

At some point, if you want to keep your stars, you're gonna have to pony up. You cant say "PAY THE MAN NOWZ!" and go right around and say "HE'S NOT WORTHZ!!!" Then proceed to do another turn and say "OH WHY OH WHY DID THE FO NOT KEEP HIM!!! BOOO HISSS."

Can't have everything.
 

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Hopefully... the steelers freak themselves on this deal one way or the other. I'm glad to see them in this pickle.

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Bell copped 1887 in 2016. If you mean the 2215 he got two years ago which would be less than Faulks third best year OK.

What about the fact that he doesn't score at a rate close to Faulk?

This isn't even a conversation, Bell is not Faulk and has a lot more to prove before he is in the conversation in that fashion.

12MIL for a RB in todays game is over paying.

Bells ypg from scrimmage at 157 in 2016 is 6 yards higher than Faulks best year in his career which was 151.

Not sure where you get your scoring rate number at either:

Faulks average tds per game for his career = .539
Bells average tds per game for his career = .659

Bells numbers are on track to be comparable barring career ending injuries etc. Point being, you pay those kinds of backs you cant just draft a Le'Veon Bell in every draft, that is just flat wrong.
 

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Bells ypg from scrimmage at 157 in 2016 is 6 yards higher than Faulks best year in his career which was 151.

Not sure where you get your scoring rate number at either:

Faulks average tds per game for his career = .539
Bells average tds per game for his career = .659

Bells numbers are on track to be comparable barring career ending injuries etc. Point being, you pay those kinds of backs you cant just draft a Le'Veon Bell in every draft, that is just flat wrong.


It's tough to compare two completely different RBs
 

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I don't think so. He hasn't earnt the right to demand an upgrade. Maybe the year after if he has 2 good seasons in a row.

On a side note I'm still not sure why they extended tavon when they did? There was no reason other than they thought he was gonna blow up last season and wanted to get him at a cheaper rate, which is why i was very bullish on him last season. Little did i know how absolutely awful boras would be as an oc.

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Bell is definitely a game-changer, he's a dependable ground-game guy and that's what we want Gurley to become for the Rams. I say pay the man - but I'd have injury clauses in that contract.
 

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any RBs other than Bell and David Johnson I wouldnt pay over 8m (and even thats a stretch). But for those 2 you get it as low as you can without pissing them off and pay them. Calling them RBs is almost disrespectful at this point with their incredible talent at WR. You just dont let guys like that get away
 

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Bells 157 ypg in 2016 was better than any season Marshall Faulk ever had. Was Marshall Faulk expendable?

He was in Indianapolis. Colts replaced him with Edge James and started winning.

When your drafting and development program is ahead of the curve you don't have to be locked into one player.
 

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He was in Indianapolis. Colts replaced him with Edge James and started winning.

Colts stink....As to Bell great back, but I would sign him to a big contract with the caveat that if he fails a drug test the money gets reduced.
 

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Bells ypg from scrimmage at 157 in 2016 is 6 yards higher than Faulks best year in his career which was 151.

Not sure where you get your scoring rate number at either:

Faulks average tds per game for his career = .539
Bells average tds per game for his career = .659

Bells numbers are on track to be comparable barring career ending injuries etc. Point being, you pay those kinds of backs you cant just draft a Le'Veon Bell in every draft, that is just flat wrong.

Bell has never scored more than 8 rushing TD's in a year and has 36 total TD's in 47 games. Faulk bested that in just 28 games when he scored 48 in 2000 and 2001 while nursing a knee injury. Faulk went 4 straight years in a row with over 2100 yards from scrimmage.

Bell's best year for total TD's is 11.

Bell is not even close to Faulk. He's a very good RB but he is nothing like Faulk.

My point is that you don't pay that kind of RB 12MIL a year. That's WAY too much money for that kind of production.
 

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Colts stink....As to Bell great back, but I would sign him to a big contract with the caveat that if he fails a drug test the money gets reduced.

Are teams allowed to do that?

There is the risk of him missing a year I think, he already had a 4 game suspension so a season long suspension in next correct?

Or is it 8 games?