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How Many Wrs In This Draft Are Potentially Better Than Rams Wrs?

Discussion in 'RAMS - NFL TALK' started by max, Jan 11, 2014.

  1. jrry32

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    I'm not in doubt. Big, deep speed, physical, uses his body well, strong hands and ability to high-point the ball...Evans will be a productive NFL WR.
     
  2. Alan

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    I don't know dog, are we comparing them to our WRS or comparing their potential. Potential is subjective for both groups. We all think we know what the college kids bring to the table and he all think we know what the WRS on the Rams potentially bring to the table.

    In my opinion I think only Quick has the POTENTIAL to be better than the college receivers on that list. Givens is an enigma. Pettis is Pettis and I think that in the end, Bailey will be limited by his body.

    That's my take anyway.
     
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    I really don't think it would be wrong to go after one of the top WRs in this draft in the 1st round or wait until the 2nd or 3rd and get a guy that may be better than most of what is on the roster or not draft one at all. I think the Rams are at the point at WR that there is much leeway. I wouldn't even mind picking up a Cody Haufman in the 6th or 7th for some camp competition.
     
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    are there any recievers in the draft that can play LT, RG, Safety and corner?

    Lets draft that guy.
     
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    I also really only want Watkins. Quick could still prove to be better than any of the WR's mentioned under Watkins. Quick could have a very nice season next year. This is how I see it potentially shaping up...

    1A (Trade back and pick up a second rounder from the Browns... hopefully we get two ones) Watkins
    1B Robinson
    2A OG
    2B CB
    3 FS
    4 Center
    5 QB
    6 OG
    7 RB

    Something like that...
     
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    Better? Time will tell us that.

    How many would I rather HAVE?

    If I could have Watkins, Evans and Robinson to go with Austin, Bailey and....hmmm...probably Pettis..nah, screw that, give me Lee to replace Pettis and I'm good.

    Man how could it be that after all this screwing around with our wr's the best 2 we have are Tavon and Stedman? Twon damn rookies...smh.

    Givens? Major regression.
    Quick? Dumb as a stump.
    Pettis? I actually like this guy but probably a #4 @ best.
     
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    Why is that any more outlandish than you claiming that no less than EIGHT guys are better than anyone, given they haven't played a down of professional football? You seem to want to downgrade Bailey based on his draft slot, but want to make a case for guys who haven't even been drafted yet.

    I'm sure if you go back and watch highlight reels of ANY of the Rams WRs from their college days, they would have looked a whole lot more impressive than they have lived up thus far. Heck Austin Pettis looked off the charts at Boise St. And yet.......
     
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    Evans does have exceptionally strong hands probably in part due to his size. My concern is he does not have explosive speed and does not run clean smooth routes.
    Lee is far superior with the ball and getting open to get the ball BUT he does not have Evans hands. That is not saying his hands are not good Evans are just better.
    I do not want another receiver that is not good running routes and doesn't have elusive speed.
     
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    I don't think this is fair. Quick has shown some progression.

    If he flattens out, then we can critique.
     
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    My opinion is that everyone has potential to be amazing....and conversely, these highly sought after, and well thought of Recievers in the draft can turn into turds.

    So in my mind, Givens, Quick, and Bailey have just as much a chance at greatness as any reciever in the draft.
     
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    I don't think you can really compare a lot of receivers. Someone like Bailey is totally different from Givens, who is totally different from Quick, who is totally different from Austin, etc etc.
     
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    Can't argue with that Dog.

    Does that mean you have no opinion of any of the potential draftees? Cause if you do, aren't you basing that opinion on what you see as their potential? When you talk about wanting to keep one of our up and coming players aren't you basing that on their potential?

    Just saying.
     
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    Lee's hands are not good.

    Evans has build up speed...which is just as dangerous on deep routes. Evans is a lot like Alshon Jeffery. Deceptive speed, makes tough catches in traffic and uses his big body well. He doesn't need elusiveness. And route running isn't as important to his game. Although he does need to improve in that regard.
     
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    I disagree, but we will see, for our sake I hope the guy we draft turns out great. We will draft a wr maybe not at the top but we will draft 1
     
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    12% drop rate is horrible. For reference, Mike Evans had a 3.5% drop rate.

    Lee also has a nasty habit of body-catching.
     
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    and a nastier habit of chewing up defenses and taking the ball to the house from ANYWHERE.
    P.S route running is kinda important in the NFL
     
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    In college. And that has nothing to do with his hands.

    P.S. I'm quite aware. But it's not as important for big bodied WRs.
     
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    "Flattens out"? That would imply he had a spike no?
     
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    Jrry32 said In college. And that has nothing to do with his hands. I wasn't trying to say Lee was a TD machine because of his hands. All these guys will enter the NFL with the need to improve at their weakness very few are NFL ready right out of the draft.
    Ball catching technique route running can be taught. Speed can't, there are a lot of wr's in the draft that intrigue me I hope we get a good one. My like of Lee comes from familiarity with Lee being a So. Cal kid and now with him dropping because of injury and a bad QB situation you may be able to get a steal. Whereas I believe that Evans ascent is a little inflated. EX: Purifoy was #1 CB a couple months ago now he is barely top 10 I would love to get value like that later.
    Always fun talking football with the boys on the board. Go Rams
     
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    #60 -X-, Jan 11, 2014
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    In two years? I'd say he's trending up right now.

    He's doubled his snap total from 2012.
    Doubled his yardage.
    Upped his yards/reception by 2.5 yards per.
    Upped his catch percentage by 13%

    Everyone knows it's going to take him some time to get it, because everyone associated with his development warned us head of time that it would. Fisher, Snead, Sherman. They all said it was going to require patience.

    Is this someone you'd give up on after his third year or call 'dumb as a stump'?

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    That's Vincent Jackson.