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How Many Wrs In This Draft Are Potentially Better Than Rams Wrs?

Discussion in 'RAMS - NFL TALK' started by max, Jan 11, 2014.

  1. max Well-Known Member

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    Tavon aside, cause I consider him more of an all purpose weapon and not a pure WR, I'm thinking there are at least 8 WRs better than Givens, Pettis, Bailey, and Quick.

    Waktins
    Evans
    Lee
    Benjamin
    Robinson
    Beckham
    Cooks
    Matthews

    Every time I do one of those mock drafts I see a great WR prospects on the board right up to and including our 2nd round pick. Makes me think twice about taking Watkins with our first pick even in a trade down.

    I think it may be better to get Matthews or Robinson with the first pick and then a WR with the next pick or the one after that.
     
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  2. PhxRam The Estimated Prophet

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    I am curious how you have already made your assessment of Bailey?
     
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  3. HE WITH HORNS Well-Known Member

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    I want Waktins, period. And Bailey might end up being good, we'll see.
     
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  4. max Well-Known Member

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    I'm just looking at his ceiling. He's 5'10" and not all that fast. I really like him, but he was a 3rd round pick for a reason. He's a tough little guy, but he's physically limited. The guys I listed could all go in the first round or second round.
     
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  5. PhxRam The Estimated Prophet

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    How have you measured his ceiling all ready?
     
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  6. CGI_Ram Hamburger Connoisseur

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    As much as I feel the OL is a greater need; when do we expect to be at the top of the draft to grab a guy like Watkins?

    I might trade down, but Sammy remains in my crosshairs.
     
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  7. max Well-Known Member

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    I used a gonkulator.
     
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  8. -X- Not into the whole brevity thing.

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    I think too much is made of measurables. He's literally 2 inches shorter than Isaac Bruce and just as "slow."

    Two inches.

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  9. Flipper_336 Active Member

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    Shouldn't the thread title contain the word "potentially"?
     
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  10. PhxRam The Estimated Prophet

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    And quite honestly I dont ever recall Bruce having to use his "height" to his advantage.
     
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  11. max Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, now Bailey is Isaac Bruce. Here we go.
     
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  12. max Well-Known Member

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    I wish I did. I'll fix it to avoid the diversions.
     
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  13. max Well-Known Member

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    You can't edit titles here? Why is that?
     
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  14. -X- Not into the whole brevity thing.

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    Why do you do that, max? Did I say Bailey is Isaac Bruce? Clearly I'm saying lack of ideal height and speed aren't a detriment to a receiver's career.
     
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  15. iced Well-Known Member

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    I think Watkins and Evans are hands down the best receivers in the draft..but I don't think Evans is an option, because time and time again whenever snead has been asked about a prospect similar to Evans he always quipped with "We already have a Tall receiver." (quick)

    who knows for sure though.. but i got a feeling watkins is on his board (I probably have to say this is pure speculation before i have people questioning my magic 8 ball skills)
     
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  16. max Well-Known Member

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    I was just trying to make a point that this draft was so deep in WRs that we could get one that is probably better than almost anyone on our team now. Then I'm getting the 3rd degree on Bailey. And then you pile on. How about thinking about that.
     
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  17. Alan Well-Known Member

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    I'd use Oaklands 1st round pick in 2015 they traded us.
     
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  18. -X- Not into the whole brevity thing.

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    I'll go one further by saying Bailey has more of a catching radius. And I can quantify that by saying his arm length is 32 3/4.
    Compare that to someone like Cordarrelle Patterson, whose arm length is an inch shorter.
     
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  19. PhxRam The Estimated Prophet

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    Okay.. I wont question you again. Apparently asking how you arrived at a players full potential after seeing him in a handful of plays, is asking too much.

    My apologies.
     
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  20. jrry32 Well-Known Member

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    I disagree. While you can make educated guesses at players' "ceilings", it's far from definitive. Who would have thunk that a 6'2" WR with 4.59 speed would be BY FAR the greatest WR to ever play the game? Just saying.

    Bailey showed ability this year...hopefully...he continues to improve. We might just have something. Maybe he isn't a #1 but I think he has the ability to be a good #2.
     
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