Carson Palmer says Jared Goff can learn much by not playing right away

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http://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/la-sp-rams-palmer-goff-20160928-snap-story.html

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Carson Palmer was the No. 1 pick in the 2003 NFL draft out of USC, so theArizona Cardinals quarterback knows something about what Rams rookie Jared Goff is experiencing.

Palmer did not play his entire rookie season before he became the starter in 2004.

While rookies such as Carson Wentz and Dak Prescott are starting, Goff, the No. 1 pick in the draft, has not played. He is the backup for veteran Case Keenum, who has helped lead the Rams to a 2-1 record that puts them at the top of the NFC West heading into Sunday’s division game at Arizona.

“There’s such a fine line between throwing a guy in there, making him play ... and he knows he’s going to go in and struggle because the team’s not good like some guys have been,” Palmer said Wednesday during a conference call. “The Rams are different. That’s a very good team. They don’t need to throw a rookie in there and him learn on the run and the team suffer.

“They’ve got a veteran who has the team at the top of the division.”

Goff struggled during the exhibition season. Coach Jeff Fisher made him inactive for the opener against the San Francisco 49ers and then elevated him to No. 2 on the depth chart against Seattle and Tampa Bay.

“I just think every situation is so different, every team is so different and every organization is so different,’ Palmer said. “The head coach makes the decision about what’s best for the team. And, obviously, he thinks it’s best for the team for Jared to sit and watch and learn.”

Palmer said there was much to gain from waiting before playing.

“You have a chance to watch how you prepare as a starter, how you go about your business as a starter, especially if you’re coming from a very non pro-style offense,” he said. “Seeing how offenses prepare, seeing the different pressures you’re going to see and the different defenses you’re going to see.

“It’s tough if you’re not ready and you get thrown in there. If you struggle it can linger, so I think it’s important.”
 

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I told you guys how I was yelling at a SC game to play him as a freshman...I take all that shit back....LOL
 

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Every QB is different and every situation unique. There is no "set of rules" that can be referred to when it comes to grooming a QB, other than "every QB is different and every situation unique". The problem that presents for fans is they want to know now. Not in week 10 or in year 2 or 3. It's like buying a new Corvette and then getting hit with a blizzard that closes roads for days on end. You could take it out anyway but you might be sorry.
 

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That's nice Palmer. Now go throw 4 INTs and fumble the ball so Quinn can start his strip/sack/TD season.
 

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No No No start Goff us fans know waaaaay more than people who do this for a living....

with that being said I can't wait till he gets his first start!
 

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No No No start Goff us fans know waaaaay more than people who do this for a living....

with that being said I can't wait till he gets his first start!


What us fans know are things like arm strength, accuracy, pocket awareness, pocket movement, looking for more than one option, etc. Goff did/had all of those things in college. So we think he could succeed now.

What we don't know is if he can handle the difficulties that the NFL presents to a young QB and if he has mentally processed it all. But, since many rookie QBs do have success in their first year then we assume that Goff would too.

We also know that Fisher doesn't have a great staff when it comes to grooming a QB. Based on Fisher's past, Goff may not start until year two.
 

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What us fans know are things like arm strength, accuracy, pocket awareness, pocket movement, looking for more than one option, etc. Goff did/had all of those things in college. So we think he could succeed now.

What we don't know is if he can handle the difficulties that the NFL presents to a young QB and if he has mentally processed it all. But, since many rookie QBs do have success in their first year then we assume that Goff would too.

We also know that Fisher doesn't have a great staff when it comes to grooming a QB. Based on Fisher's past, Goff may not start until year two.
Wow Vince Lombardi that post huh? Congrats!
 

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They may have jumped the gun on making Tavon the 42 million dollar man, then. He's not going to catch 100 balls or earn significant YAC this season with Case as the field general. Ya need a fast draw gunslinger like Jared, who can brush the dust off of a butterfly's wings at 50 yards. :LOL:
 

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Hope he's a better study than you, Carson. 4 INTs in six minutes. You're a 36 year old vet.

13 years of sitting and playing and you never did learn not to throw a game away.
 

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What us fans know are things like arm strength, accuracy, pocket awareness, pocket movement, looking for more than one option, etc. Goff did/had all of those things in college. So we think he could succeed now.

What we don't know is if he can handle the difficulties that the NFL presents to a young QB and if he has mentally processed it all. But, since many rookie QBs do have success in their first year then we assume that Goff would too.

We also know that Fisher doesn't have a great staff when it comes to grooming a QB. Based on Fisher's past, Goff may not start until year two.

Who was the guy that sat behind Steve Deberg? Who was the coach that sat him for the better part of a season and a half?

;)
 

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Hope he's a better study than you, Carson. 4 INTs in six minutes. You're a 36 year old vet.

13 years of sitting and playing and you never did learn not to throw a game away.
He had about 4 dropped before the 4th quarter. Stephon Gilmore dropped 2 and I said he was going to get Palmer at least twice in the second half. Well I guess I'm a great prognosticator :mrburnsevil:
 

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I totally forgot he was the #1 pick and sat. Makes sense to a large degree. Just all of us Goff fans want him to start now :0
 

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Wow Vince Lombardi that post huh? Congrats!
I get the facetious tone. The thing that makes us still clamor for Goff is Keenum's arm. He can't throw into tight Windows and his deep passes have a huge arc to them. We know, and have seen Goff make better throws in pre-season. And we want his learning curve to start sooner than later.

However, as long as Case and the team can keep winning, the argument to start Goff gets weaker, despite his shortcomings.
 

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Joe Montana. The coach was Walsh.

IIRC he went on the field in some games and just handed off a few times, he didn't even throw a pass sometimes. I believe he didn't become the starter until well into his second year. But by then I'm sure he understood every single thing about the way the offense worked.

I'm not saying Goff is going to follow that path, or the path Fisher put McNair on where he didn't take over until the start of the 3rd year, what I'm saying is Fisher isn't likely to put him out there until he knows what to do. Not "he can do OK with an altered gameplan and offense".
 

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what I'm saying is Fisher isn't likely to put him out there until he knows what to do
Until Goff knows what to do or Fisher knows what to do?

An example of what a dead overrated Whiner that's currently rotting in hell did -- in the era before free agency, with a third rounder, etc. -- isn't very relevant to the situation today. There are examples on all sides to pull from, no historical example can provide an objective conclusion that it's better to start right away or sit.

So I'm sorry for being snarky, but I think the "knows what to do" question is exactly what this comes down to -- not Goff, but if people trust Fisher knows what he's doing or not. Fisher can say Goff's not ready until he's blue in the face, but if Fisher doesn't know what "ready" means it doesn't mean much.